Once again big government is sticking their nose where it does not belong

[jreeves]

Who in the hell does the US government and the gulf coast state governments think they are telling British Petroleum how they should handle the oil spill or even to suggest what safety measures they should have taken or should take in the future to prevent accidents. This all adds cost to doing business. In a free market all of these regulations make it more difficult for our local production to compete in the world market.

The US government is also threatening to add more regulations to the mining industry. Another example of BIG GOVERNMENT interfering in our lives and our free markets.

Obama is turning the USA into a socialist state.

You're an idiot.
Hopefully they'll be creating a nuclear waste disposal site in your back yard.

I dont think its fair that we should have to pay for any of this crap. they make enough money off us to save our environment. The funny thing is , they will raise gas prices to pay for this anyway. This just sucks.

No, just you do...

 

[ElmerMudd]

With my tongue firmly in my cheek I made the ridiculous conservative argument that government should stay out of our lives.

The simple minded thinking of less government under any circumstances results in oil spills that cost the American tax payer billions not including the enviromental damage.

The simple minded less government under any circumstances resultes in 27 deaths in the mining industry.

The simple minded thinking of less government under any circumstances results in the biggest financial crisis since the depression.

All the issues above require complex critical thinking to develop real world solutions. Simplistic thinking of far right wackos does not include any critical thinking.

It is scary how many conservatives read my ridiculous post and agreed with it.

 

[sweetie]

...as one wag puts it, 'these stooooooopid, cousin-fucking republicrats will work their hamburger chutes near-endlessly about our 'illion-'dollar' economy...when the cousin-fuckers haven't an honest clue as to the hideous origin, nature, etc. of even one 'dollar'..'

...the rest of you, have a great day!..

 

[xsited1]

I absolutely was not serious

Really??? Wow! I couldn't tell! Better tell some of your Leftist friends you were just kidding. They're kinda slow.

 

[mudwhistle]

Who in the hell does the US government and the gulf coast state governments think they are telling British Petroleum how they should handle the oil spill or even to suggest what safety measures they should have taken or should take in the future to prevent accidents. This all adds cost to doing business. In a free market all of these regulations make it more difficult for our local production to compete in the world market.

The US government is also threatening to add more regulations to the mining industry. Another example of BIG GOVERNMENT interfering in our lives and our free markets.

Obama is turning the USA into a socialist state.

You object to that?

Take it up with the wives of the miners killed in West Virginia
Tell it to the wives of the men killed on the oil rig

Ya...those bastards died just so you could have your car, your putor, just so you don't have to walk or wait on someone to invent a wind powered car.

 

[California Girl]

I see the lefties are losing their grip on the reality rope again. Seriously, we may need to consider a ban on kool aid for their own good.

 

[manifold]

Who in the hell does the US government and the gulf coast state governments think they are telling British Petroleum how they should handle the oil spill or even to suggest what safety measures they should have taken or should take in the future to prevent accidents. This all adds cost to doing business. In a free market all of these regulations make it more difficult for our local production to compete in the world market.

The US government is also threatening to add more regulations to the mining industry. Another example of BIG GOVERNMENT interfering in our lives and our free markets.

Obama is turning the USA into a socialist state.

This is an example of "satire", right?

....a very dumb ass attempt at one....

Considering how many didn't get it, I'd say it was downright brilliant and a resounding success.

 

[Flopper]

Who in the hell does the US government and the gulf coast state governments think they are telling British Petroleum how they should handle the oil spill or even to suggest what safety measures they should have taken or should take in the future to prevent accidents. This all adds cost to doing business. In a free market all of these regulations make it more difficult for our local production to compete in the world market.

The US government is also threatening to add more regulations to the mining industry. Another example of BIG GOVERNMENT interfering in our lives and our free markets.

Obama is turning the USA into a socialist state.

The BP procedures to protect us from this disaster didn't work. The values were there. They tried to close them and it didn't work.

BP is another giant multinational corporation that may be putting short term profits ahead of the long term welfare of the company, the environment, and the community. It's too soon to consider regulations, but to just leave it all to BP would be stupid.

 

[Xenophon]

This is an example of "satire", right?

....a very dumb ass attempt at one....

Considering how many didn't get it, I'd say it was downright brilliant and a resounding success.

Not when you review the ones that didn't get it.

 

[MaggieMae]

The oil companies leased federal and public land out in the Gulf, they want to reap the rewards when they strike oil and they need to accept the responsibility when accidents take place.

A no-brainer, of course.

 

[California Girl]

Who in the hell does the US government and the gulf coast state governments think they are telling British Petroleum how they should handle the oil spill or even to suggest what safety measures they should have taken or should take in the future to prevent accidents. This all adds cost to doing business. In a free market all of these regulations make it more difficult for our local production to compete in the world market.

The US government is also threatening to add more regulations to the mining industry. Another example of BIG GOVERNMENT interfering in our lives and our free markets.

Obama is turning the USA into a socialist state.

The BP procedures to protect us from this disaster didn't work. The values were there. They tried to close them and it didn't work.

BP is another giant multinational corporation that may be putting short term profits ahead of the long term welfare of the company, the environment, and the community. It's too soon to consider regulations, but to just leave it all to BP would be stupid.

Clearly, you know fuck all about BP.

 

[ElmerMudd]

I absolutely was not serious

Really??? Wow! I couldn't tell! Better tell some of your Leftist friends you were just kidding. They're kinda slow.

As ridiculous as my post was there are far right extremeists that post more idiotic statements than mine.

The fact many thought this was serious is a statement of how far out some on the right are.

 

[ElmerMudd]

It is so simple to apply less government, less personal intrusion, less taxes argument to every political issue.
I like less government, less personal intrusion and less taxes but the philosophy cannot be applied in a simple minded fashion to every issue. Critical thinking on major issues must be used.
Many issues require the government to be involved. Some issues require the government to be involved in our lives and can require more taxes.

But it is really easy to just simply say less government, less taxes on every issue.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Who in the hell does the US government and the gulf coast state governments think they are telling British Petroleum how they should handle the oil spill or even to suggest what safety measures they should have taken or should take in the future to prevent accidents. This all adds cost to doing business. In a free market all of these regulations make it more difficult for our local production to compete in the world market.

The US government is also threatening to add more regulations to the mining industry. Another example of BIG GOVERNMENT interfering in our lives and our free markets.

Obama is turning the USA into a socialist state.

The BP procedures to protect us from this disaster didn't work. The values were there. They tried to close them and it didn't work.

BP is another giant multinational corporation that may be putting short term profits ahead of the long term welfare of the company, the environment, and the community. It's too soon to consider regulations, but to just leave it all to BP would be stupid.

Clearly, you know fuck all about BP.

If California Girl is a girl, I am a monkey's uncle.

 

[manifold]

It is so simple to apply less government, less personal intrusion, less taxes argument to every political issue.
I like less government, less personal intrusion and less taxes but the philosophy cannot be applied in a simple minded fashion to every issue. Critical thinking on major issues must be used.
Many issues require the government to be involved. Some issues require the government to be involved in our lives and can require more taxes.

But it is really easy to just simply say less government, less taxes on every issue.

It does make it easy to be consistent.

It's also easy to always say more taxes, more government, rich people owe us for being consumers in a world that makes them rich.

Critical thinking is always welcome, but you say it as if it's a euphamism for more government. It isn't.

 

[xsited1]

The BP procedures to protect us from this disaster didn't work. The values were there. They tried to close them and it didn't work.

BP is another giant multinational corporation that may be putting short term profits ahead of the long term welfare of the company, the environment, and the community. It's too soon to consider regulations, but to just leave it all to BP would be stupid.

Clearly, you know fuck all about BP.

If California Girl is a girl, I am a monkey's uncle.

Actual picture of ElmerMudd:

 

[ElmerMudd]

It is so simple to apply less government, less personal intrusion, less taxes argument to every political issue.
I like less government, less personal intrusion and less taxes but the philosophy cannot be applied in a simple minded fashion to every issue. Critical thinking on major issues must be used.
Many issues require the government to be involved. Some issues require the government to be involved in our lives and can require more taxes.

But it is really easy to just simply say less government, less taxes on every issue.

It does make it easy to be consistent.

It's also easy to always say more taxes, more government, rich people owe us for being consumers in a world that makes them rich.

Critical thinking is always welcome, but you say it as if it's a euphamism for more government. It isn't.

I agree with your statement.

 

[ElmerMudd]

clearly, you know fuck all about bp.

if california girl is a girl, i am a monkey's uncle.

actual picture of elmermudd:

lol

 

[sweetie]

...ah yes, endless stinking bickering..you republicrats never fail to miss the root$ of 'the problem'...

...you goddamned republicrat fools allow the likes of republicrats rush limbaugh and/or bill moyers to frame 'the issue' for you..

...despite the fact your cocksuckers are frequently working about the 'illion 'dollar' economy you dummies haven't an honest clue as to the origin, nature, etc. of even one 'dollar'..(no, they don't 'print' them, you dense republicrat foghorns..)

stfu republicrats..

...the rest of you, enjoy!..


It was known in 1833 that corporations threatened the welfare of the nation

"Against Corporations of every kind, the objection may be brought that whatever power is given to them is so much taken from either the government or the people. As the object of charters is to give to members of companies powers which they would not possess in their individual capacity, the very existence of monied corporations is incompatible with equality of rights.

Corporations are unfavorable to the progress of national wealth. As the Argus eyes of private interest do not watch over their concerns, their affairs are much more carelessly and much more expensively conducted than those of individuals. What would be the condition of the merchant who should trust everything to his clerks, or of the farmer who should trust everything to his laborers? Corporations are obliged to trust everything to stipendiaries, who are oftentimes less trustworthy than the clerks of the merchant or the laborers of the farmer.

Such are the inherent defects of corporations that they never can succeed, except when the laws or circumstances give them a monopoly or advantages partaking of the nature of a monopoly. Sometimes they are protected by direct inhibitions to individuals to engage in the same business. Sometimes they are protected by an exemption from liabilities to which individuals are subjected. Sometimes the extent of their capital or of their credit gives them a control of the market. They cannot, even then, work as cheap as the individual trader, but they can afford to throw away enough money in the contest to ruin the individual trader, and then they have the market to themselves.

If a poor man suffers aggression from a rich man, the disproportion of power is such that it may be difficult for him to obtain redress; but if a man is aggrieved by a corporation, he may have all its stockholders, all its clerks, and all its protégés for parties against him. Corporations are so powerful as frequently to bid defiance to government.

If a man is unjust or an extortioner, society is, sooner or later, relieved from the burden by his death. But corporations never die. What is worst of all (if worse than what has already been stated be possible) is that want of moral feeling and responsibility which characterizes corporations. A celebrated English writer expressed the truth, with some roughness, but with great force, when he declared that "corporations have neither bodies to be kicked, nor souls to be damned..."

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Liberal really need their own country.