On workplace safety...

[Dr Gregg]

You would have some States cutting corners on worker safety to attract companies from other States

yeah, and who wants every state in the union to have an entire different set of rules and regulations, like they are their own country. that could get very confusing.

THATS HOW WE WERE FOUNDED!!!

That was the intent of the language in the constition and we let progressives like Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow wilsion ignore that almost 100 years ago, we still haven't recovered and probably never will.

But a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever. - John Adams

that was during a time when people were more proud of their state than they were the union.Hey, and if the constitution is being broken, maybe someone should challenge it and go to SCOTUS, like what's stated in the constitution

How stupid would it be though if there were no federal laws? each state would be like entering a new country.

 

[jillian]

THATS HOW WE WERE FOUNDED!!!

That was the intent of the language in the constition and we let progressives like Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow wilsion ignore that almost 100 years ago, we still haven't recovered and probably never will.

But a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever. - John Adams

No. It isn't... otherwise the Articles of Confederation would have been left in place.

See my post above. Your position is baseless and ultimately the arguments are spurrious and inconsistent with the law.

 

[logical4u]

When the issue of workplace safety is discussed, do you tend to believe that a vigorous OSHA is what it takes to protect workers? Or, do you believe that workers should be trained and organized to prevent workplace accidents? If it's the latter, do you believe that trade unions should take the yeoman's share of the responsibility, or that the employer should handle this without 'interference' from a government agency?

My point is to ask: if you feel that agencies like OSHA are too intrusive, trade unions are altogether bad, would you still say you are genuinely concerned about workplace safety?

Do you believe that private industry has a sterling track record vis-a-vis worker safety? Would you hold employers responsible for lost time workplace accidents?

It takes OSHA, the employer and the employee.
OSHA sets standards and proceedures (they can also be abused by those wishing to harm industry with false reporting and exaggerating safety concerns). They are a bureaucracy and as such cause their own set of problem (when an industrial death occurs, the "scene" must not be touched, until after OSHA gets there, some times hours later, causing great distress to those that work there).
The employer (especially the more skilled the workers need to be), has made an investment in each employee. It is in the employers' interest to keep the workers healthy and productive (new hires require new training and extra investment).
The employee must choose if the employment is worth the risk (each job has related risks, whether it is traveling, comuting to the city, industrial work place, working with electricity or other "stored" energy, or dealing with gravity in the form of heights or depths). Only the employee can notify the other two if a situation has changed or become dangerous.
The three together have developed a fairly good working relationship. OSHA and unions may have been started to "protect" the worker, but make no mistake, if they did not benefit the employers (by providing employees for longer periods of time, or supplying an employee with the skills the employer can use), neither would have survived.

 

[American Horse]

Corporations, prior to any regulations of the gov't, have a horrible track record of worker safety. Without regulations, many companies wouldn't spend the time and money to properly make sure that their workers are safe. Some would, but history shows that horrors would occur.

The rules set up by the feds hold business accountable, and set a national standard for safety conditions.

It should have been done on a state government level so it would have been in line with the constitution's 10th ammendment. Along with MANY other things we have let the federal government get away with taking power through.

Enforceable workplace safety rules, IMO, are a necessety.

Isn't it much better to have a unified set of regulations, instead of each and every state having different things?

I do believe each state has its own regulations, which are more stringent or equal to the federal regs. In Indiana we have the Indiana OSHA (IOSHA). If a state did not bother to pass their own, the federal OSHA would be in force in that state, but I believe, but don't know for a fact, that the OSHA regs would still only be enforced by state employees; that there are no federal OSHA employees. The same way with the National Building Code (NBC); if a state does not supersede it with their own, the NBC is in effect, but there are no federal employee inspectors out in the field.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

THATS HOW WE WERE FOUNDED!!!

That was the intent of the language in the constition and we let progressives like Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow wilsion ignore that almost 100 years ago, we still haven't recovered and probably never will.

But a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever. - John Adams

No. It isn't... otherwise the Articles of Confederation would have been left in place.

See my post above. Your position is baseless and ultimately the arguments are spurrious and inconsistent with the law.

Yes it is. Read the constitution by itself.