On this anniversary

[CryGlennCry]

Let us not forget that we were duped as a nation into endless, pointless wars as a direct result of the fear and anger following this attack.
The greatest CIA disinformation campaign in the congress took place in 2002-2003, when CIA director George Tenet and his deputy, John McLaughlin, consistently lied about Iraqi training for al Qaeda members on chemical and biological weapons as well as the existence of mobile labs to manufacture such weapons. . .

How exactly is anything here "crazy"?
I mean really....We're disagreeing about facts now?

 

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You are so retarded it bis beyond pathetic. Key Word here after Terrorism is Jihad. You bend over backwards in denial blaming us, and I say to You Fuck You. There is nothing You can do short of Conversion and Submission that would Appease the Threat. Rationalize all You Want, on this Anniversary of A Hostile Unjustified Act, Shit For Brains. Carry Your Battle Flag White Field With White on White Stripes, into battle. Along with Your armor of Knee Pads and KY Jelly. Hint, They Kill Gays, but You can pull off a Sex Change and they are okay with that.

The Ideology of People Owning People (Slavery), Arbitrary Rights and Permissions (Unjust Courts), and Total Control Over Your Life should go over well with Your Fucked Up Logic.

If only Jimmy Carter would have had a spine. Incompetent Pricks.

 

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By DEAN E. MURPHY
Listen to the survivors who escaped down the staircases of the doomed World Trade Center towers on Sept. 11, and expect to be overwhelmed by the aching appreciation for the faces on these pages.

For thousands of horrified office workers who fled the terrorist attacks, the most remarkable sight during their descent was the wave of determined firefighters advancing toward the burning sky.

"One fireman stopped to take a breath, and we looked each other in the eye," said Louis G. Lesce, who was on his way down from the 86th floor of 1 World Trade Center, the first tower hit. "He was going to a place where I was damn well trying to get out of. I looked at him thinking, 'What are you doing this for?' He looked at me like he knew very well. 'This is my job.'"

In all, 343 firefighters were reported missing or were identified among the dead. The number of casualties was staggering. Entire companies were lost. The previous biggest loss of life for the Fire Department was in 1966, when 12 were killed in a fire on East 23rd Street.

But the numbers tell only a fraction of the story. The faces and names say far more. A father and son. A chaplain. A commander. A rookie. Strangers to most of those they passed on Sept. 11, but heroes to them all.

"They were perspiring profusely, exhausted," said David Frank, a salesman who escaped from the 78th floor of 1 World Trade Center. "And they had to go all the way to the 90's - straight into hell. This was not lost on the crowd. We all broke out into applause at one point. It was a wonderful moment."

Abbreviations:
A.C., assistant chief; Bat., battalion; B.C., battalion chief; Cmd Ctr., command center; Div., division; D.C. division chief; Dep. Comm., deputy commissioner; Eng, engine company; F.M., fire marshall; H.M. hazardous material unit; H.O., hazardous
operations; Lad., ladder company; Sqd., squad; Res. rescue unit;
(D) confirmed deceased.






http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/091101rescuers.html

 

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All 343 911wtc Killed at the World Trade Center September 11, 2001


Joseph
Agnello, Lad.118
Lt. Brian
Ahearn, Bat.13
Eric
Allen, Sqd.18 (D)
Richard
Allen, Lad.15
Cpt. James
Amato, Sqd.1
Calixto
Anaya Jr., Eng.4


Joseph
Angelini, Res.1 (D)
Joseph
Angelini Jr., Lad.4
Faustino
Apostol Jr., Bat.2
David
Arce, Eng.33
Louis
Arena, Lad.5 (D)
Carl
Asaro, Bat.9



Lt. Gregg
Atlas, Eng.10
Gerald
Atwood, Lad.21
Gerald
Baptiste, Lad.9
A.C. Gerard
Barbara, Cmd. Ctr.
Matthew
Barnes, Lad.25
Arthur
Barry, Lad.15


Lt.Steven
Bates, Eng.235
Carl
Bedigian, Eng.214
Stephen
Belson, Bat.7
John
Bergin, Res.5
Paul
Beyer, Eng.6
Peter
Bielfeld, Lad.42


Brian
Bilcher, Sqd.1
Carl
Bini, Res.5
Christopher
Blackwell, Res.3
Michael
Bocchino, Bat.48
Frank
Bonomo, Eng.230
Gary
Box, Sqd.1


Michael
Boyle, Eng.33
Kevin
Bracken, Eng.40
Michael
Brennan, Lad.4
Peter
Brennan, Res.4
Cpt. Daniel
Brethel, Lad.24 (D)
Cpt. Patrick
Brown, Lad.3


Andrew
Brunn, Lad.5 (D)
Cpt. Vincent
Brunton, Lad.105
F.M. Ronald
Bucca
Greg
Buck, Eng.201
Cpt. William
Burke Jr., Eng.21
A.C. Donald
Burns, Cmd. Ctr.


John
Burnside, Lad.20
Thomas
Butler, Sqd.1
Patrick
Byrne, Lad.101
George
Cain, Lad.7
Salvatore
Calabro, Lad.101
Cpt. Frank
Callahan, Lad.35


Michael
Cammarata, Lad.11
Brian
Cannizzaro, Lad.101
Dennis
Carey, Hmc.1
Michael
Carlo, Eng.230
Michael
Carroll, Lad.3
Peter
Carroll, Sqd.1 (D)


Thomas
Casoria, Eng.22
Michael
Cawley, Lad.136
Vernon
Cherry, Lad.118
Nicholas
Chiofalo, Eng.235
John
Chipura, Eng.219
Michael
Clarke, Lad.2


Steven
Coakley, Eng.217
Tarel
Coleman, Sqd.252
John
Collins, Lad.25
Robert
Cordice, Sqd.1
Ruben
Correa, Eng.74
James
Coyle, Lad.3


Robert
Crawford, Safety
Lt. John
Crisci, H.M.
B.C. Dennis
Cross, Bat.57 (D)
Thomas
Cullen III, Sqd. 41
Robert
Curatolo, Lad.16 (D)
Lt. Edward
D'Atri, Sqd.1


Michael
D'Auria, Eng.40
Scott
Davidson, Lad.118
Edward
Day, Lad.11
B.C. Thomas
DeAngelis, Bat. 8
Manuel
Delvalle, Eng.5
Martin
DeMeo, H.M. 1


David
DeRubbio, Eng.226
Lt. Andrew
Desperito, Eng.1 (D)
B.C. Dennis
Devlin, Bat.9
Gerard
Dewan, Lad.3
George
DiPasquale, Lad.2
Lt. Kevin
Donnelly, Lad.3


Lt. Kevin
Dowdell, Res.4
B.C. Raymond
Downey, Soc.
Gerard
Duffy, Lad.21
Cpt. Martin
Egan, Jr., Div.15 (D)
Michael
Elferis, Eng.22
Francis
Esposito, Eng.235


Lt. Michael
Esposito, Sqd.1
Robert
Evans, Eng.33
B.C. John
Fanning, H.O.
Cpt. Thomas
Farino, Eng.26
Terrence
Farrell, Res.4
Cpt. Joseph
Farrelly, Div.1


Dep. Comm. William
Feehan, (D)
Lee
Fehling, Eng.235
Alan
Feinberg, Bat.9
Michael
Fiore, Res.5
Lt. John
Fischer, Lad.20
Andre
Fletcher, Res.5


John
Florio, Eng.214
Lt. Michael
Fodor, Lad.21
Thomas
Foley, Res.3
David
Fontana, Sqd.1
Robert
Foti, Lad.7
Andrew
Fredericks, Sqd.18


Lt. Peter
Freund, Eng.55
Thomas
Gambino Jr., Res.3
Chief of Dept. Peter
Ganci, Jr. (D)
Lt. Charles
Garbarini, Bat.9
Thomas
Gardner, Hmc.1
Matthew
Garvey, Sqd.1


Bruce
Gary, Eng.40
Gary
Geidel, Res.1
B.C. Edward
Geraghty, Bat.9
Dennis
Germain, Lad.2
Lt. Vincent
Giammona, Lad.5
James
Giberson, Lad.35


Ronnie
Gies, Sqd.288
Paul
Gill, Eng.54
Lt. John
Ginley, Eng.40
Jeffrey
Giordano, Lad.3
John
Giordano, Hmc.1
Keith
Glascoe, Lad.21


James
Gray, Lad.20
B.C. Joseph
Grzelak, Bat.48
Jose
Guadalupe, Eng.54
Lt. Geoffrey
Guja, Bat.43
Lt. Joseph
Gullickson, Lad.101
David
Halderman, Sqd.18


Lt. Vincent
Halloran, Lad.8
Robert
Hamilton, Sqd.41
Sean
Hanley, Lad.20 (D)
Thomas
Hannafin, Lad.5
Dana
Hannon, Eng.26
Daniel
Harlin, Lad.2


Lt. Harvey
Harrell, Res.5
Lt. Stephen
Harrell, Bat.7
Cpt. Thomas
Haskell, Jr., Div.15
Timothy
Haskell, Sqd.18 (D)
Cpt. Terence
Hatton, Res.1
Michael
Haub, Lad.4


Lt. Michael
Healey, Sqd.41
John
Hefferman, Lad.11
Ronnie
Henderson, Eng.279
Joseph
Henry, Lad.21
William
Henry, Res.1 (D)
Thomas
Hetzel, Lad.13


Cpt. Brian
Hickey, Res.4
Lt. Timothy
Higgins, S.O.C.
Jonathan
Hohmann, Hmc.1
Thomas
Holohan, Eng.6
Joseph
Hunter, Sqd.288
Cpt. Walter
Hynes, Lad.13 (D)


Jonathan
Ielpi, Sqd.288
Cpt. Frederick
Ill Jr., Lad.2
William
Johnston, Eng.6
Andrew
Jordan, Lad.132
Karl
Joseph, Eng.207
Lt. Anthony
Jovic, Bat.47


Angel
Juarbe Jr., Lad.12
Mychal
Judge, Chaplain (D)
Vincent
Kane, Eng.22
B.C. Charles
Kasper, S.O.C.
Paul
Keating, Lad.5
Richard
Kelly Jr., Lad.11


Thomas R.
Kelly, Lad.15
Thomas W.
Kelly, Lad.105
Thomas
Kennedy, Lad.101
Lt. Ronald
Kerwin, Sqd.288
Michael
Kiefer, Lad.132
Robert
King Jr., Eng.33


Scott
Kopytko, Lad.15
William
Krukowski, Lad.21
Kenneth
Kumpel, Lad.25
Thomas
Kuveikis, Sqd.252
David
LaForge, Lad.20
William
Lake, Res.2


Robert
Lane, Eng.55
Peter
Langone, Sqd.252
Scott
Larsen, Lad.15
Lt. Joseph
Leavey, Lad.15
Neil
Leavy, Eng.217
Daniel
Libretti, Res.2


Carlos
Lillo, Paramedic
Robert
Linnane, Lad.20
Michael
Lynch, Eng.40
Michael
Lynch, Lad.4
Michael
Lyons, Sqd.41
Patrick
Lyons, Sqd.252


Joseph
Maffeo, Lad.101
William
Mahoney, Res 4
Joseph
Maloney, Lad.3 (D)
B.C. Joseph
Marchbanks Jr, Bat.12
Lt. Charles
Margiotta, Bat.22
Kenneth
Marino, Res.1


John
Marshall, Eng.23
Lt. Peter
Martin, Res.2
Lt. Paul
Martini, Eng.23
Joseph
Mascali, T.S.U. 2
Keithroy
Maynard, Eng.33
Brian
McAleese, Eng.226


John
McAvoy, Lad.3
Thomas
McCann, Bat.8
Lt. William
McGinn, Sqd.18
B.C. William
McGovern, Bat.2 (D)
Dennis
McHugh, Lad.13
Robert
McMahon, Lad.20


Robert
McPadden, Eng.23
Terence
McShane, Lad.101
Timothy
McSweeney, Lad.3
Martin
McWilliams, Eng.22 (D)
Raymond
Meisenheimer, Res.3
Charles
Mendez, Lad.7


Steve
Mercado, Eng.40
Douglas
Miller, Res.5
Henry
Miller Jr, Lad.105
Robert
Minara, Lad.25
Thomas
Mingione, Lad.132
Lt. Paul
Mitchell, Bat.1


Capt. Louis
Modafferi, Res.5
Lt. Dennis
Mojica, Res.1 (D)
Manuel
Mojica, Sqd.18 (D)
Carl
Molinaro, Lad.2
Michael
Montesi, Res.1
Capt. Thomas
Moody, Div.1


B.C. John
Moran, Bat.49
Vincent
Morello, Lad.35
Christopher
Mozzillo, Eng.55
Richard
Muldowney Jr, Lad.07
Michael
Mullan, Lad.12
Dennis
Mulligan, Lad.2


Lt. Raymond
Murphy, Lad.16
Lt. Robert
Nagel, Eng.58
John
Napolitano, Res.2
Peter
Nelson, Res.4
Gerard
Nevins, Res.1
Dennis
O'Berg, Lad.105


Lt. Daniel
O'Callaghan, Lad.4
Douglas
Oelschlager, Lad.15
Joseph
Ogren, Lad.3
Lt. Thomas
O'Hagan, Bat.4
Samuel
Otice, Lad.4
Patrick
O'Keefe, Res.1


Capt. William
O'Keefe, Div.15 (D)
Eric
Olsen, Lad.15
Jeffery
Olsen, Eng.10
Steven
Olson, Lad.3
Kevin
O'Rourke, Res.2
Michael
Otten, Lad.35


Jeffery
Palazzo, Res.5
B.C. Orio
Palmer, Bat.7
Frank
Palombo, Lad.105
Paul
Pansini, Eng.10
B.C. John
Paolillo, Bat.11
James
Pappageorge, Eng.23


Robert
Parro, Eng.8
Durrell
Pearsall, Res.4
Lt. Glenn
Perry, Bat.12
Lt. Philip
Petti, Bat.7
Lt. Kevin
Pfeifer, Eng. 33
Lt. Kenneth
Phelan, Bat.32


Christopher
Pickford, Eng.201
Shawn
Powell, Eng.207
Vincent
Princiotta, Lad.7
Kevin
Prior, Sqd.252
B.C. Richard
Prunty, Bat.2 (D)
Lincoln
Quappe, Res.2


Lt. Michael
Quilty, Lad.11
Ricardo
Quinn, Paramedic
Leonard
Ragaglia, Eng.54
Michael
Ragusa, Eng.279
Edward
Rall, Res.2
Adam
Rand, Sqd.288


Donald
Regan, Res.3
Lt. Robert
Regan, Lad.118
Christian
Regenhard, Lad.131
Kevin
Reilly, Eng.207
Lt. Vernon
Richard, Lad.7
James
Riches, Eng.4


Joseph
Rivelli, Lad.25
Michael
Roberts, Eng.214
Michael E.
Roberts, Lad.35
Anthony
Rodriguez, Eng.279
Matthew
Rogan, Lad.11
Nicholas
Rossomando, Res.5


Paul
Ruback, Lad.25
Stephen
Russell, Eng.55
Lt. Michael
Russo, S.O.C.
B.C. Matthew
Ryan, Bat.1
Thomas
Sabella, Lad.13
Christopher
Santora, Eng.54


John
Santore, Lad.5 (D)
Gregory
Saucedo, Lad.5
Dennis
Scauso, H.M. 1
John
Schardt, Eng.201
B.C. Fred
Scheffold, Bat.12
Thomas
Schoales, Eng.4


Gerard
Schrang, Res.3 (D)
Gregory
Sikorsky, Sqd.41
Stephen
Siller, Sqd.1
Stanley
Smagala Jr, Eng.226
Kevin
Smith, H.M. 1
Leon
Smith Jr, Lad 118


Robert
Spear Jr, Eng.26
Joseph
Spor, Res.3
B.C. Lawrence
Stack, Bat.50
Cpt. Timothy
Stackpole, Div.11 (D)
Gregory
Stajk, Lad.13
Jeffery
Stark, Eng.230


Benjamin
Suarez, Lad.21
Daniel
Suhr, Eng.216 (D)
Lt. Christopher
Sullivan, Lad.111
Brian
Sweeney, Res.1
Sean
Tallon, Lad.10
Allan
Tarasiewicz, Res.5


Paul
Tegtmeier, Eng.4
John
Tierney, Lad.9
John
Tipping II, Lad.4
Hector
Tirado Jr, Eng.23
Richard
Van Hine, Sqd.41
Peter
Vega, Lad.118


Lawrence
Veling, Eng.235
John
Vigiano II, Lad.132
Sergio
Villanueva, Lad.132
Lawrence
Virgilio, Sqd.18 (D)
Lt. Robert
Wallace, Eng.205
Jeffery
Walz, Lad. 9


Lt. Michael
Warchola, Lad.5 (D)
Capt. Patrick
Waters, S.O.C.
Kenneth
Watson, Eng.214
Michael
Weinberg, Eng.1 (D)
David
Weiss, Res.1
Timothy
Welty, Sqd.288


Eugene
Whelan, Eng.230
Edward
White, Eng.230
Mark
Whitford, Eng.23
Lt. Glenn
Wilkinson, Eng.238 (D)
B.C. John
Williamson, Bat.6 (D)
Capt. David
Wooley, Lad.4


Raymond
York, Eng.285 (D)


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[eots]

i couldn't find john O'Neil on the list ...

 

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i couldn't find john O'Neil on the list ...

This List was NYFD.

O'Neil Was Gifted and ignored. A Great Loss.

 

[manu1959]

No. But that "mom stuff" goes both ways.
You can't be outraged by Pelosi and not by Dubya.

haha!

It only took you 11 posts to invoke Booooooosh!

C'mon. It was pertinent to the conversation.
And when you cause that much trouble to the country, you're bound to get mentioned.

you all act like bush went solo on this....and the entire house and senate voted against it.....by they way the entire house and senate an the new president are ramping up the war in afganistan....new boss same as the olde boss....

and yes tennant and clarke waged the "slam dunk" campaign....

 

[CryGlennCry]

You are so retarded it bis beyond pathetic. Key Word here after Terrorism is Jihad. You bend over backwards in denial blaming us, and I say to You Fuck You. There is nothing You can do short of Conversion and Submission that would Appease the Threat. Rationalize all You Want, on this Anniversary of A Hostile Unjustified Act, Shit For Brains. Carry Your Battle Flag White Field With White on White Stripes, into battle. Along with Your armor of Knee Pads and KY Jelly. Hint, They Kill Gays, but You can pull off a Sex Change and they are okay with that.

The Ideology of People Owning People (Slavery), Arbitrary Rights and Permissions (Unjust Courts), and Total Control Over Your Life should go over well with Your Fucked Up Logic.

If only Jimmy Carter would have had a spine. Incompetent Pricks.

Christ on a tortilla!
Look, Rambo...The world is a big dangerous place and if you think we could ever scare the world into respecting through military force, than you're a tool.
After 8 years of fighting "the terrorists"...100,000's dead...trillions squandered....America's great history, tarnished...
And are we safer?
You ACTUALLY think we will be safe from a handful of angry extremists by killing muslims in a dubious war/s in the middle east?

 

[namvet]

let us not forget that we were duped as a nation into endless, pointless wars as a direct result of the fear and anger following this attack.
The greatest cia disinformation campaign in the congress took place in 2002-2003, when cia director george tenet and his deputy, john mclaughlin, consistently lied about iraqi training for al qaeda members on chemical and biological weapons as well as the existence of mobile labs to manufacture such weapons. . .

fail

 

[CryGlennCry]

Good point....9/11 was Obama's fault.

 

[namvet]

for the record: THE mastermind behind 9-11

 

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You are so retarded it bis beyond pathetic. Key Word here after Terrorism is Jihad. You bend over backwards in denial blaming us, and I say to You Fuck You. There is nothing You can do short of Conversion and Submission that would Appease the Threat. Rationalize all You Want, on this Anniversary of A Hostile Unjustified Act, Shit For Brains. Carry Your Battle Flag White Field With White on White Stripes, into battle. Along with Your armor of Knee Pads and KY Jelly. Hint, They Kill Gays, but You can pull off a Sex Change and they are okay with that.

The Ideology of People Owning People (Slavery), Arbitrary Rights and Permissions (Unjust Courts), and Total Control Over Your Life should go over well with Your Fucked Up Logic.

If only Jimmy Carter would have had a spine. Incompetent Pricks.

Christ on a tortilla!
Look, Rambo...The world is a big dangerous place and if you think we could ever scare the world into respecting through military force, than you're a tool.
After 8 years of fighting "the terrorists"...100,000's dead...trillions squandered....America's great history, tarnished...
And are we safer?
You ACTUALLY think we will be safe from a handful of angry extremists by killing muslims in a dubious war/s in the middle east?

Christ on a Tortilla? That is a first.

Rambo, no, not likely.

8 Years of Fighting Terrorists and Jihad is nothing. Method, Tactics, Common Sense, Reason, may be far from Command, though that does not Invalidate in any way the Constitutional Obligation of Our Military, to Protect The Constitution, The Government, and The People From Threat. That it is the Obligation to Protect form All Enemies, Foreign and Domestic. You are deceived about handfuls of Terrorist's. The Jihad, on that end will by won when The World converts to Islam, and Submits to Their Rule. Don't Include Me in Your Surrender.

One Thing Bush got Right, is that He Knew that Islam has to change from within. Not Convert, but change, by Not Placing Itself above Equal Justice. Considering The Expansion, and the lack of insight on your side of the Aisle, they are well along the way of Conquering Continents, in the name of Totalitarian Rule, where death is the consequence of Dissent. By Splitting Our focus and diverting it, You have served their cause. Part of Me would wish that I could Celebrate Obama's Victory, Like they did in Kenya, but My Conscience won't allow me. You think to appease these unwashed Predators, and find fault with the Victims. I don't care if the Battle against Tyranny goes 800 Years, I care when You wave the White Flag of Surrender and Doom. We spent Trillions avoiding Collateral Damage, when We could have wiped out Millions of people for pennies on the dollar. I support the Care we took to spare innocents. The Opposition uses any means to justify it's end. That may pass over your head, but it changes nothing.

 

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for the record: THE mastermind behind 9-11

I still say that had we supported the Shah, Iran would now be the most Culturally advanced Islamic State, and Our Friend.

 

[CryGlennCry]

8 Years of Fighting Terrorists and Jihad is nothing. Method, Tactics, Common Sense, Reason, may be far from Command, though that does not Invalidate in any way the Constitutional Obligation of Our Military, to Protect The Constitution, The Government, and The People From Threat. That it is the Obligation to Protect form All Enemies, Foreign and Domestic. You are deceived about handfuls of Terrorist's. The Jihad, on that end will by won when The World converts to Islam, and Submits to Their Rule. Don't Include Me in Your Surrender.

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And you conveniently blew by my only actual question to give your long patriotic and ridiculous diatribe on "us vs them".
That question again was "Are we any safer from jihadist threats today than in 2001"?
After all the death and destruction and money and scandal....ask yourself...was it really worth it?
Not that we could just let these scum continue to plot against America. We must be vigilant and determined and harsh with this enemy. This is an absolute.
But this sad display of global arrogance and thoughtless force that is the Iraq/Afghanistan wars is just not an intelligent or realistic way to win this thing.
Oh, and I'm not a democrat so I don't know what "my side of the aisle" is.

 

[Intense]

8 Years of Fighting Terrorists and Jihad is nothing. Method, Tactics, Common Sense, Reason, may be far from Command, though that does not Invalidate in any way the Constitutional Obligation of Our Military, to Protect The Constitution, The Government, and The People From Threat. That it is the Obligation to Protect form All Enemies, Foreign and Domestic. You are deceived about handfuls of Terrorist's. The Jihad, on that end will by won when The World converts to Islam, and Submits to Their Rule. Don't Include Me in Your Surrender.

.

And you conveniently blew by my only actual question to give your long patriotic and ridiculous diatribe on "us vs them".
That question again was "Are we any safer from jihadist threats today than in 2001"?
After all the death and destruction and money and scandal....ask yourself...was it really worth it?
Not that we could just let these scum continue to plot against America. We must be vigilant and determined and harsh with this enemy. This is an absolute.
But this sad display of global arrogance and thoughtless force that is the Iraq/Afghanistan wars is just not an intelligent or realistic way to win this thing.
Oh, and I'm not a democrat so I don't know what "my side of the aisle" is.

We are more Prepared, so that is a Yes. Firm Yes. No Expectations, no Surprises.

The Iraq/Afghanistan Strategy was a part of the Equation. Read Tommy Franks Book "American Soldier". Your side of the Aisle Undermined it, and it fell apart. Ever ask yourself what the State Department was doing for 3 Years after the Invasion. We had a melt down on the International Stage that You brought about. It was effective, It was very effective, and empowered the opposition. Welcome to the Show. Please be Seated. The next Act is about to begin. Taking Control of Government was more important to some than the Health and Welfare of This Nation. Nationalation and Socialization is more important to the same than Our Health and Welfare. Open Your Eyes.

 

[CryGlennCry]

8 Years of Fighting Terrorists and Jihad is nothing. Method, Tactics, Common Sense, Reason, may be far from Command, though that does not Invalidate in any way the Constitutional Obligation of Our Military, to Protect The Constitution, The Government, and The People From Threat. That it is the Obligation to Protect form All Enemies, Foreign and Domestic. You are deceived about handfuls of Terrorist's. The Jihad, on that end will by won when The World converts to Islam, and Submits to Their Rule. Don't Include Me in Your Surrender.

.

And you conveniently blew by my only actual question to give your long patriotic and ridiculous diatribe on "us vs them".
That question again was "Are we any safer from jihadist threats today than in 2001"?
After all the death and destruction and money and scandal....ask yourself...was it really worth it?
Not that we could just let these scum continue to plot against America. We must be vigilant and determined and harsh with this enemy. This is an absolute.
But this sad display of global arrogance and thoughtless force that is the Iraq/Afghanistan wars is just not an intelligent or realistic way to win this thing.
Oh, and I'm not a democrat so I don't know what "my side of the aisle" is.

We are more Prepared, so that is a Yes. Firm Yes. No Expectations, no Surprises.

The Iraq/Afghanistan Strategy was a part of the Equation. Read Tommy Franks Book "American Soldier". Your side of the Aisle Undermined it, and it fell apart. Ever ask yourself what the State Department was doing for 3 Years after the Invasion. We had a melt down on the International Stage that You brought about. It was effective, It was very effective, and empowered the opposition. Welcome to the Show. Please be Seated. The next Act is about to begin. Taking Control of Government was more important to some than the Health and Welfare of This Nation. Nationalation and Socialization is more important to the same than Our Health and Welfare. Open Your Eyes.

Ok. More prepared, sure.
But what the hell does that have to do with these wars??
And as for all that drivel about "my side" undermining security and whatever nonsense stream of consciousness you were writing ...you're crazy. Plain and simple.

 

[JW Frogen]

If there had been more drunk passengers on those planes the hijackers would have never made it to their kill zones.

Sobriety kills.

 

[CryGlennCry]

If there had been more drunk passengers on those planes the hijackers would have never made it to their kill zones.

Sobriety kills.

 

[Intense]

If there had been more drunk passengers on those planes the hijackers would have never made it to their kill zones.

Sobriety kills.

The Passengers were lied to, they thought they were just being Hi-Jacked.

 

[Intense]

And you conveniently blew by my only actual question to give your long patriotic and ridiculous diatribe on "us vs them".
That question again was "Are we any safer from jihadist threats today than in 2001"?
After all the death and destruction and money and scandal....ask yourself...was it really worth it?
Not that we could just let these scum continue to plot against America. We must be vigilant and determined and harsh with this enemy. This is an absolute.
But this sad display of global arrogance and thoughtless force that is the Iraq/Afghanistan wars is just not an intelligent or realistic way to win this thing.
Oh, and I'm not a democrat so I don't know what "my side of the aisle" is.

We are more Prepared, so that is a Yes. Firm Yes. No Expectations, no Surprises.

The Iraq/Afghanistan Strategy was a part of the Equation. Read Tommy Franks Book "American Soldier". Your side of the Aisle Undermined it, and it fell apart. Ever ask yourself what the State Department was doing for 3 Years after the Invasion. We had a melt down on the International Stage that You brought about. It was effective, It was very effective, and empowered the opposition. Welcome to the Show. Please be Seated. The next Act is about to begin. Taking Control of Government was more important to some than the Health and Welfare of This Nation. Nationalation and Socialization is more important to the same than Our Health and Welfare. Open Your Eyes.

Ok. More prepared, sure.
But what the hell does that have to do with these wars??
And as for all that drivel about "my side" undermining security and whatever nonsense stream of consciousness you were writing ...you're crazy. Plain and simple.

You are an Ass that just doesn't get it. American left did more damage to this struggle than Al-Qaeda. Had this been an Islamic Country, and done anything that Questioned the Cause, You would now be dead and buried. You all led the charge. Not you personally, You just lapped up the Kool-Aid Lap Dog. Al-Jezeera took a back seat to the DNC spin machine.