On This Anniversary - 9/11: How it Was Done, the Science of Demolition (Epic Essay)

[toobfreak]

You think the heavier a mass gets, the faster it falls. You are stuck back in the Dark Ages before Galileo.

HEY JACKASS! I'm a retired telecom engineer with a degree in physics. DO NOT TELL ME WHAT I THINK, MFer! I don't need to be told elementary first grade physics. Every fucking kid knows that a feather falls as fast as a bowling ball in a vacuum. If you want to believe some government conspiracy bullshit behind 9/11, that is YOUR PROBLEM.

And I'm an astronaut with a PhD in nuclear engineering. Stop jerking off, engineers don't feel the need to use a lot of caps like a fifth grader.

Jesus. This place is getting to be too much. Half the time the site doesn't even work, apparently under some sort of server attack. Now some crackpot thinks he can determine your career and education because you used capital letters. It couldn't possibly be because you are such a flaming idiot with a bunch of trash psycho theories, or that you think you are now an astronaut with a PhD in nuclear engineering? What do I have to show, my tax ID number or my diplomas around here? I bet I've forgotten more about nuclear science than you'll ever know.

If you're so fucking smart murkle, impress me by solving this simple math problem:

Tell me the two solutions to this problem then we'll talk about how much you really know. If anyone else knows the solution, please let this clown answer. I'm betting you can't. You'll probably claim it is beneath you or some other lame excuse to hide the fact that you don't even know basic algebra. I've looked at all the conspiracy crap for YEARS and in the final analysis, only crackpots believe that crap. No UFO theories are needed to explain the WTC collapses. BTW, your conjecture about what jet fuel can do is wrong as well.

Wadda clown.

 

[gipper]

The State is a big conspiracy. It has proven itself such for centuries. We all know it lies and deceives. Is it that far fetched to believe covert forces within our government had something to do with 9/11? I don’t think so.

After all the false flags, wars for the ruling class, assassinations of foreign leaders, JFK, operation Mockingbird, operation Northwoods, etc...when will Americans realize their government is a criminal enterprise?

 

[gipper]

The truest definition of a patriot.

“A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.”―Edward Abbey, American author

 

[Auld Phart]

Not a Current Event, nor is it History.

As long as we're still having our balls fondled at the airport because of it, it's still relevant, regardless of your feels. It's awfully gosh darned funny that it was the terrorists who supposedly hated us for our freedoms, but it was the government who used the event to take them away at gunpoint. Never let a perfectly good crisis go to waste and whatnot. You probably support that, too.

 

[MisterBeale]

#howtheydid911

9/11 False Flag: 9/11: How it Was Done, the Science of Demolition

On This Anniversary - 9/11: How it Was Done, the Science of Demolition (Epic Essay)


As public awareness grows about the truth about 9/11, it serves to point out that many features of the towers' destruction fit perfectly with standard patterns of demolition. Evidence which at first seems puzzling is in fact consistent with known demolition techniques.

It is important to know, first, that jet fuel is only kerosene, with no hotter burning temperature in open air than store-bought kerosene or barbecue lighter fluid. With most of the fuel blown out in the impact fireballs anyway, it is patently impossible for mere kerosene and office furniture to have burned any differently from standard office fires, at temperatures of rarely more than 800F before flashover.

WTC 7 differed from Towers One and Two in that WTC7 was a traditional "bottom-up" implosion. The Twin Towers, on the other hand, exhibited the more unfamiliar pattern of a "banana peel" demolition, which starts at the middle or the top of a building and progresses downward. The below demolition in China shows the pattern of streamers of arcing debris that we see coming from the Twin Towers, as the cutting of supports begins high above ground level and works its way down.


Banana Peel Demolition in China next to Twin Towers




Banana peel demolitions are used for taller, narrower buildings, where there is danger of the building tipping over should the bottom be cut and the rest of the sequence not execute perfectly.


But first, just how does a demolition work? Students of the truth about 9/11 will not be surprised to learn that it is essentially the art and science of causing to happen what cannot happen without careful engineering: all structural supports in a building must be cut at essentially the same time, so that all pieces are falling at free-fall acceleration through thin air. It is a difficult undertaking to remove all supports nearly simultaneously in redundantly engineered modern high-rises, with extensive cross-bracing which transfers load from compromised members to sound ones. Even then, failed demolitions are not uncommon.


In the below images we see the principle support columns in the "core" of WTC 1, an extensively cross-braced steel assembly which served as the backbone of the towers, and held 70% of the weight.


Twin Tower core backbone under construction






Illustration of main support columns







One standard technique is the use of "cutter' and "kicker" charges, in which the first set of charges, the cutters, cut the steel beam supports at precisely timed intervals, and the kicker charge "kicks" the cut piece outward. In all the film evidence of the Towers' destruction, straight, cleanly cut pieces of steel beam can be seen spinning outward from the Towers at explosive speeds, across an area at least three times as long as the Towers are wide. Thirty foot, multi-ton pieces of steel beam and perimeter assembly were found nearly three football fields away from the nearest tower, and windows were blown out across the WTC. These startling facts cannot be overstated.


Cut Steel Being Hurled Laterally at Speeds up to 80 MPH




Width of Debris Field





Physicist David Chandler Narrates North Tower Demolition




Using this technique, the pattern of debris one would expect to see lying on the ground after the destruction would be cleanly-cut, straight steel pieces, rather than twisted, heat deformed pretzels of steel as implied by the official "steel got soft and buckled" story. Exactly as predicted, an aerial photo of the debris field shows a thick carpet of arrow-straight, cleanly-cut lengths of steel beam, flung hither and yon.


Aerial View, Steel Debris, from BushArchives.org






Aerial View, Steel Debris, from BushArchives.org







Use of Thermite

In its famous attack on skeptics of the official 9/11 story, Popular Mechanics held that the melting agent thermite had never been used in a demolition before. Ironically it had, on the Chicago Sky Ride in 1935. It was reported in Popular Mechanics.

Thermite works by melting through steel like a hot knife through butter, illustrated in the video below.

Thermite vs. Car VIDEO

Reaching temperatures of 5,000F, thermite can be expected to produce large pools of molten steel and iron. This is exactly what was found, to the puzzlement of rescue workers, in the basements of the Twin Towers.

Relatively slow burning thermite would have been used to weaken strong points in the structures, such as mechanical floors, prior to demolition. So it is of interest that in WTC 2, molten steel seen dripping at around floors 80 and 81 corresponded somewhat, but not exactly, to the mechanical floors at floors 75-77, below.


WTC2 South Tower on 9/11 Molten Metal North-East Corner VIDEO


In the following video demonstrating the use of thermite, the characteristic dripping of molten steel can be seen which exactly replicates, in color and consistency, that seen coming from the towers on a larger scale.


Thermite vs. Steel Plate VIDEO


Another interesting use of thermite can be seen the moment just before each demolition when the perimeter columns around the impact areas seem to bow outward, giving the impression of overload. Thermite melting the core columns so that all load is transferred to the perimeter columns would give precisely this effect.

Another spectacular coincidence is the "fireproofing upgrades" which took place a year before 9/11, but only on floors of or near impact in both Towers, floors 92 - 100 in WTC1, and 77 - 78 of WTC2, which required the vacating of tenants during the work (page 42, NIST NCSTAR1-6A.)

Molten iron and steel was not observed dripping from the building until about ten minutes before destruction. This would be when firefighters were reportingthat the fires were under control and almost out.

One thing which stands out about the presence of molten steel in the basements is that it stayed molten for so long, reported for weeks and even months afterwards. This would require a powerful exothermic reaction, hot enough not just to melt steel, but to raise its temperature considerably above melting point in order for heat to be stored, in the same way that water brought to near boiling cools down into the solid state of ice far more slowly than water at room temperature. With the melting point of steel at 2800F, and the thermite reaction reaching temperatures of 5,000F, the reaction would produce enough heat-energy to keep steel molten - i.e. in liquid state - for long periods of time.

Thus the evidence again fits what we would expect to find in a demolition that was a combination of thermite, and cutter and kicker charges.

On 9/11, cutter charges would simply have been much bigger versions of the steel beam cutter charge (linear shape charge) demonstrated in the video below:

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Linear Shape Charges






A video simulation of the Towers' inner structure posted at Youtube includes an illustration of a cutter-kicker sequence.


Click on images to go to Youtube video, sequence begins at 7:20

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Demolitions Expert Tom Sullivan

A demolitions expert formerly with Controlled Demolitions Inc. (CDI,) which was contracted to help with the clean-up phase at Ground Zero, said in an interview:

"Fire cannot bring down steel-framed high rises — period."
Tom Sullivan grew up with the son of Jack Loizeaux, president and founder of CDI,and a pioneer in the controlled demolitions industry. In an interview with Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Sullivan stated:
"that he knew from the first day that the destruction of World Trade Center Building 7 on 9/11 was a classic controlled implosion. Asked how he thought it might have been done he posited, “looking at the building it wouldn’t be a problem — once you gain access to the elevator shafts…then a team of expert loaders would have hidden access to the core columns and beams. The rest can be accomplished with just the right kind of explosives for the job. Thermite can be used as well.”

Sullivan said:

"I mean, come on, it was complete destruction. I've seen buildings fall like that for years -- that was the end game for me."

The means of igniting and controlling the demolition suggested by Sullivan, interestingly, coincides with the one proposed in an early hypothetical blasting scenario by Jim Hoffman, an artificial intelligence engineer. In the section "Control Architecture" of the scenario Hoffman posits:
Control Architecture

Ignition of the incendiaries and detonation of the explosives is controlled through a wireless network using RF repeaters on every floor of the Towers having pyrotechnics.

Each of the Stage-2 pyrotechnics units -- the kicker charges and explosive sheets -- has an integrated wireless detonator card that includes a 2-channel RF receiver, an accelerometer, logic, dual wafer batteries, and a micro-detonator...

The detonator cards are programmed to respond only to RF signals on the network's broadcast frequencies that have specific codes. The cards are manufactured in batches of cards with identical codes, where each batch has a unique code and is destined for a specific floor of one of the Towers.

Of a detonator card's two channels, one provides the arm signal, and the other provides a detonation signal. Once the arm signal has been received, the detonator will be triggered by either of two events: rapid acceleration detected by the accelerometer, or receipt of the detonation signal.

Below is an image of this kind of system currently on the market for CD companies, published at ae911truth.org (Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.)


Wireless Detonation System





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Conclusion

Once 24/7 access to the towers' interiors and the rest of the WTC complex has been established, the planned destruction of the Twin Towers and Building 7 becomes a task for which all technology is well-developed and available. Access is established through Marvin Bush, the youngest Bush brother, who was on the board of Securacom, the company which held the security contract for the World Trade Center complex. According to Barry McDaniel, CEO of Securacom, the company held the contract for security “up to the day the buildings fell down.”

The nexus which seems to connect many of key players in the 9/11 plot is the neoconservative think-tank Project for a New American Century (PNAC.) PNAC, whose members included Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Jeb Bush, Elliot Abrams, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Zalmay Khalilzad, Scooter Libby, and Richard Armitage, had been openly advocating for an invasion of Iraq since the Clinton administration.

Dov Zakheim, another member of PNAC, had been awarded the contract for the first WTC bombing investigation in 1993. The investigation was done by a fully-owned subsidiary of Zakheim's company SPC, Tridata. The contract assured that not only access to the towers was secured, but also floor plans, blueprints, and all other intimate technical knowledge of the buildings.

Zakeim, who was appointed Comptroller of the Pentagon by Bush upon taking office, was also in charge of the Pentagon's finances at the time $2.3 trillion was announced missing from the Pentagon, on September 10 the day before 9/11.Needless to say, after 9/11 "the day the world changed," the story was dropped from the media.

In another coincidence involving Zakheim, his company SPC (of which he was CEO and main shareholder) also invented remote 'anti-hijack" technology, by which an airliner's controls could be seized from the ground to foil hijackers. This technology has obvious ramifications for misuse in the wrong hands.

In a city like New York, the world's most dynamic metropolis, the "city that never sleeps," extra work crews, maintenance crews, technicians, and delivery trucks working round-the-clock would not be noticed. Nevertheless, some people did notice certain unusual events, such as a series of "power downs" and a generally unusual amount of activity in the months before 9/11. In the below video a worker describes a "power down" condition days before 9/11, which would have disabled security cameras and alarms.

Worker Describes "Power Down" Days Before 9/11 VIDEO

One favorite contention of defenders of the official story is that the aircraft impacts would have set-off or destroyed explosive charges. But the loss of a number of charges would be of no consequence in a redundantly "wired" impact zone, since only specific encoded signals could actually arm and trigger the entire detonation sequence.

As Air Force Col. Bob Bowman once said: "If they have nothing to hide, why are they hiding everything?" The immediate, illegal destruction of 99.5% of the steel evidence, shipped to and melted in China, ensures that the vast majority of the steel can never be examined and tested to either confirm or disprove the presence of the above demolition techniques. This alone, said Bowman, is evidence of guilt.

Some kinds of thermite can be applied in a "sol-gel" solution, which can be rolled on like paint, or fireproofing. Think how inconvenient, then, to have steel beams examined and found to have layers of residual thermite paint. It is no wonder that putting the steel onto ships bound for China, immediately, was of the utmost importance, even if it represented felony destruction of evidence.

In the end the testimony of firefighters and other responders, like Firefighter John Schroeder below, stands as the most powerful indicator of what happened that day. Schroeder, who says he does not believe the official story, and who was on the 24th floor of the North Tower, reports explosions rocking the building from the inside, as it seemed to "disintegrate" from the core and the stairwells. This is precisely the part of the structure which would be most critical to weaken before a final demolition sequence.


Firefighter John Schroeder VIDEO

There is no shortage of testimony corroborating Schroeder's description of explosions throughout the morning, which might correspond to the preliminary weakening of the buildings' strong points. Not one of these reports of explosions was included in the official 9/11 Commission report.

One such explosion is captured on video below.


Prep Charge Explosion VIDEO

The audio evidence includes footage of what is clearly an accelerating demolition sequence, below.


Explosive Sequence, South Tower

Finally, there is the plethora of other puzzles beyond the scope of this essay, the scheduling of multiple war-games on the fateful day which sent much of the air defense force outside the nation's borders, the fantastic sudden flying skills of incompetent pilots, and of course the impossibility of the official explanation relying on a notion of mass accelerating in proportion to its increasing weight, which is a physics chimera (all mass of any weight accelerates to the ground at the same rate, and can only go slower as it meets resistance, not faster, as it was shown by Galileo.)



Other anomalies and coincidences in the evidence of 9/11 continue to arise, and together with the above demolition hypothesis continue to provide clues as to just how it was done.

This essay is dedicated to U.S. Air Force Colonel Dr. Robert Bowman, (1934-2013,) without whom the movement for 9/11 truth would not be where it is today.

Important further reading and resources

U.S. Military Officers and Patriots Question 9/11

9/11 Skeptics to Mark Anniversary with Vigils, Lawsuit

9/11Evidence.org

9/11 Truth Action Project

9/11Research

Pilots for 9/11 Truth

Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth

Documentary: 9/11 The New Pearl Harbor





James Madison is a pseudonym in the tradition of the American Revolution's Publius, in order that arguments must be judged solely on the merits.

So what explains all the burned out and melted cars, and the gargantuan Seismic wave just preceding the collapse?

Why was sand brought in by the truckload and old dirt taken away?

Why did it take forever to cool down?

Meh. If you're gonna conspiracy, do it right, boys...

The Journal of 9/11 Research and 9/11 Issues

I've looked into Dr. Woods theory, and there might be something there.

However, it is rumored that they took out a lot of dirt and brought in a lot of sand and other ground material, to make the whole place non-radio active.

I think there is just as much support and evidence for the suit case, tactical nuke theory as well. Certain things need an explanation that thermite alone doesn't do. The illnesses, the pyroclastic dust, the burned out and melted cars, the existence of exotic radioactive isotopes at ground zero. EVEN THE NAME; GROUND ZERO, that is hiding the truth in plane site.

The World Trade Center was brought down by a controlled demolition that involved thermite and small, possibly suitcase nuclear weapons. The WTC really is "Ground Zero," the site of an atomic blast.

I will agree with you that there is probably a certain amount of disinformation agents put out by the establishment in the truth community to divide the paradigm so that there is not a united message. With out a targeted message, it is hard to explain what happened, to answer questions or explain how history actually occurred. Sowing confusing is the name of the game with two competing paradigms.

One Man Asks Why Was Tritium Found At 9/11 Ground Zero

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This is what is important;
The Global Intelligence Files - [Analytical & Intelligence Comments] Mossad ran 9/11 Arab "hijacker" terrorist operation

 

[MisterBeale]

 

[Toro]

Don’t make me Funny you, Mister Beale!

 

[MisterBeale]

Don’t make me Funny you, Mister Beale!

https://www.amazon.com/American-Deep-State-Democracy-Library/dp/1442214244&tag=ff0d01-20



I don't think it is much of a laughing matter. Neither does a highly respected professor from the University of Berkley California.

 

[munkle]

We have listen to you RETARDS for years now, yet you can not answer simple questions, like how did the conspiracy plant all the explosives wire them up and time them for impact with the planes and NO one of the THOUSANDS of people that worked in the buildings ever saw a thing?

How about how did they keep all the people that would be needed to seed the buildings from talking all these years?

If planes did not hit the three buildings what happened to the crew , PASSENGERS AND planes?

If a drone was used against the pentagon who and what launched it from whose arsenal did it come and who made it so it would leave no debris behind? Further how come the pattern in the Pentagon DOES NOT MATCH a drone? Ohh ya and who paid off the witnesses that saw the plane and why have they not blabbed about it after all these years?

There are many more questions if you claim no planes were used and even more f you claim some nefarious group of Government stooges wired the twin towers.

You obviously didn't read the post. Go wallow in your stupidity and ignorance alone. The real patriots are waking up. You are too dumb to bother with, I am interested in having discussions with intelligent people who want the truth, whatever it may be.

You also obviously are a hick who has never been to NYC. They don't roll up the sidewalks at 6, people are everywhere working all the time, 24/7, especially the WTC, and no one cares what they are doing.

You are not going to answer because you CAN NOT. For one thing dumb ass, the towers did not collapse in 14 seconds, they collapsed over time. I still wanna know how they faked 4 airplanes? How you dismiss eyewitness accounts in Washington DC or eye witness accounts in New York?

And yes security or some one would have noticed if people were wire pillars for demolition. you can hide the wires and the electronics nor the blocks of explosives.

Funny you don't bother with anything even remotely the truth, "did not collapse in 14 seconds, they collapsed over time." No one said airplanes were faked. Everything you say can now be skipped over. You are either a shill or a moron. Either way not worth arguing with. If you are shill you should be prosecuted as an accomplice.



WTC7, remember was not even hit by a plane.

 

[MisterBeale]

We have listen to you RETARDS for years now, yet you can not answer simple questions, like how did the conspiracy plant all the explosives wire them up and time them for impact with the planes and NO one of the THOUSANDS of people that worked in the buildings ever saw a thing?

How about how did they keep all the people that would be needed to seed the buildings from talking all these years?

If planes did not hit the three buildings what happened to the crew , PASSENGERS AND planes?

If a drone was used against the pentagon who and what launched it from whose arsenal did it come and who made it so it would leave no debris behind? Further how come the pattern in the Pentagon DOES NOT MATCH a drone? Ohh ya and who paid off the witnesses that saw the plane and why have they not blabbed about it after all these years?

There are many more questions if you claim no planes were used and even more f you claim some nefarious group of Government stooges wired the twin towers.

You obviously didn't read the post. Go wallow in your stupidity and ignorance alone. The real patriots are waking up. You are too dumb to bother with, I am interested in having discussions with intelligent people who want the truth, whatever it may be.

You also obviously are a hick who has never been to NYC. They don't roll up the sidewalks at 6, people are everywhere working all the time, 24/7, especially the WTC, and no one cares what they are doing.

You are not going to answer because you CAN NOT. For one thing dumb ass, the towers did not collapse in 14 seconds, they collapsed over time. I still wanna know how they faked 4 airplanes? How you dismiss eyewitness accounts in Washington DC or eye witness accounts in New York?

And yes security or some one would have noticed if people were wire pillars for demolition. you can hide the wires and the electronics nor the blocks of explosives.

Funny you don't bother with anything even remotely the truth, "did not collapse in 14 seconds, they collapsed over time." No one said airplanes were faked. Everything you say can now be skipped over. You are either a shill or a moron. Either way not worth arguing with. If you are shill you should be prosecuted as an accomplice.



WTC7, remember was not even hit by a plane.

This version of WTC 7 collapsing is better. . .

 

[gipper]

What better way to grow the power and wealth of government, than allowing a terror attack to take place?

It would appear government has a conflict of interest.

 

[MisterBeale]

What better way to grow the power and wealth of government, than allowing a terror attack to take place?

It would appear government has a conflict of interest.

Or as we can plainly now see now with the Trump administration, when folks vote, the vote is meaningless. The "government" is made up of many established players that the public has absolutely no control over.

 

[gipper]

What better way to grow the power and wealth of government, than allowing a terror attack to take place?

It would appear government has a conflict of interest.

Or as we can plainly now see now with the Trump administration, when folks vote, the vote is meaningless. The "government" is made up of many established players that the public has absolutely no control over.

Many voted for Donnie in the hopes he could control or put a stop to the un-elected establishment. He hasn't had much success and might turn out to be controlled by it, just like all the others.

Oh well, we tried. We know that we had no chance with the crazed warmonger and criminal, Hillary.

 

[Dale Smith]

We have listen to you RETARDS for years now, yet you can not answer simple questions, like how did the conspiracy plant all the explosives wire them up and time them for impact with the planes and NO one of the THOUSANDS of people that worked in the buildings ever saw a thing?

How about how did they keep all the people that would be needed to seed the buildings from talking all these years?

If planes did not hit the three buildings what happened to the crew , PASSENGERS AND planes?

If a drone was used against the pentagon who and what launched it from whose arsenal did it come and who made it so it would leave no debris behind? Further how come the pattern in the Pentagon DOES NOT MATCH a drone? Ohh ya and who paid off the witnesses that saw the plane and why have they not blabbed about it after all these years?

There are many more questions if you claim no planes were used and even more f you claim some nefarious group of Government stooges wired the twin towers.

You obviously didn't read the post. Go wallow in your stupidity and ignorance alone. The real patriots are waking up. You are too dumb to bother with, I am interested in having discussions with intelligent people who want the truth, whatever it may be.

You also obviously are a hick who has never been to NYC. They don't roll up the sidewalks at 6, people are everywhere working all the time, 24/7, especially the WTC, and no one cares what they are doing.

You are not going to answer because you CAN NOT. For one thing dumb ass, the towers did not collapse in 14 seconds, they collapsed over time. I still wanna know how they faked 4 airplanes? How you dismiss eyewitness accounts in Washington DC or eye witness accounts in New York?

And yes security or some one would have noticed if people were wire pillars for demolition. you can hide the wires and the electronics nor the blocks of explosives.

Funny you don't bother with anything even remotely the truth, "did not collapse in 14 seconds, they collapsed over time." No one said airplanes were faked. Everything you say can now be skipped over. You are either a shill or a moron. Either way not worth arguing with. If you are shill you should be prosecuted as an accomplice.



WTC7, remember was not even hit by a plane.

This version of WTC 7 collapsing is better. . .

The fact that this was a false flag event that so many still refuse to acknowledge, is a testament to the power of TV propaganda and the CIA controlled media and their ability to try and shame anyone that has the unmitigated gall to call 9/11/01 for what it was.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

We have listen to you RETARDS for years now, yet you can not answer simple questions, like how did the conspiracy plant all the explosives wire them up and time them for impact with the planes and NO one of the THOUSANDS of people that worked in the buildings ever saw a thing?

How about how did they keep all the people that would be needed to seed the buildings from talking all these years?

If planes did not hit the three buildings what happened to the crew , PASSENGERS AND planes?

If a drone was used against the pentagon who and what launched it from whose arsenal did it come and who made it so it would leave no debris behind? Further how come the pattern in the Pentagon DOES NOT MATCH a drone? Ohh ya and who paid off the witnesses that saw the plane and why have they not blabbed about it after all these years?

There are many more questions if you claim no planes were used and even more f you claim some nefarious group of Government stooges wired the twin towers.

You obviously didn't read the post. Go wallow in your stupidity and ignorance alone. The real patriots are waking up. You are too dumb to bother with, I am interested in having discussions with intelligent people who want the truth, whatever it may be.

You also obviously are a hick who has never been to NYC. They don't roll up the sidewalks at 6, people are everywhere working all the time, 24/7, especially the WTC, and no one cares what they are doing.

You are not going to answer because you CAN NOT. For one thing dumb ass, the towers did not collapse in 14 seconds, they collapsed over time. I still wanna know how they faked 4 airplanes? How you dismiss eyewitness accounts in Washington DC or eye witness accounts in New York?

And yes security or some one would have noticed if people were wire pillars for demolition. you can hide the wires and the electronics nor the blocks of explosives.

Funny you don't bother with anything even remotely the truth, "did not collapse in 14 seconds, they collapsed over time." No one said airplanes were faked. Everything you say can now be skipped over. You are either a shill or a moron. Either way not worth arguing with. If you are shill you should be prosecuted as an accomplice.



WTC7, remember was not even hit by a plane.

This version of WTC 7 collapsing is better. . .

You ACTUAL are going to claim no one said the planes were fake that no plane hit the Pentagon or went down in Pennsylvania ? Gonna deny some one said a drone was used on the pentagon?

So if you don't deny the planes and claim the 19 terrorists were really working for the Government explain in detail how the Government got them to commit suicide for the US Government? Explain how after all this time NO one that placed the explosives has talked about it?

 

[Skylar]

#howtheydid911

9/11 False Flag: 9/11: How it Was Done, the Science of Demolition

On This Anniversary - 9/11: How it Was Done, the Science of Demolition (Epic Essay)


As public awareness grows about the truth about 9/11, it serves to point out that many features of the towers' destruction fit perfectly with standard patterns of demolition. Evidence which at first seems puzzling is in fact consistent with known demolition techniques.

It is important to know, first, that jet fuel is only kerosene, with no hotter burning temperature in open air than store-bought kerosene or barbecue lighter fluid. With most of the fuel blown out in the impact fireballs anyway, it is patently impossible for mere kerosene and office furniture to have burned any differently from standard office fires, at temperatures of rarely more than 800F before flashover.

WTC 7 differed from Towers One and Two in that WTC7 was a traditional "bottom-up" implosion. The Twin Towers, on the other hand, exhibited the more unfamiliar pattern of a "banana peel" demolition, which starts at the middle or the top of a building and progresses downward. The below demolition in China shows the pattern of streamers of arcing debris that we see coming from the Twin Towers, as the cutting of supports begins high above ground level and works its way down.


Banana Peel Demolition in China next to Twin Towers




Banana peel demolitions are used for taller, narrower buildings, where there is danger of the building tipping over should the bottom be cut and the rest of the sequence not execute perfectly.


But first, just how does a demolition work? Students of the truth about 9/11 will not be surprised to learn that it is essentially the art and science of causing to happen what cannot happen without careful engineering: all structural supports in a building must be cut at essentially the same time, so that all pieces are falling at free-fall acceleration through thin air. It is a difficult undertaking to remove all supports nearly simultaneously in redundantly engineered modern high-rises, with extensive cross-bracing which transfers load from compromised members to sound ones. Even then, failed demolitions are not uncommon.


In the below images we see the principle support columns in the "core" of WTC 1, an extensively cross-braced steel assembly which served as the backbone of the towers, and held 70% of the weight.


Twin Tower core backbone under construction






Illustration of main support columns







One standard technique is the use of "cutter' and "kicker" charges, in which the first set of charges, the cutters, cut the steel beam supports at precisely timed intervals, and the kicker charge "kicks" the cut piece outward. In all the film evidence of the Towers' destruction, straight, cleanly cut pieces of steel beam can be seen spinning outward from the Towers at explosive speeds, across an area at least three times as long as the Towers are wide. Thirty foot, multi-ton pieces of steel beam and perimeter assembly were found nearly three football fields away from the nearest tower, and windows were blown out across the WTC. These startling facts cannot be overstated.


Cut Steel Being Hurled Laterally at Speeds up to 80 MPH




Width of Debris Field





Physicist David Chandler Narrates North Tower Demolition




Using this technique, the pattern of debris one would expect to see lying on the ground after the destruction would be cleanly-cut, straight steel pieces, rather than twisted, heat deformed pretzels of steel as implied by the official "steel got soft and buckled" story. Exactly as predicted, an aerial photo of the debris field shows a thick carpet of arrow-straight, cleanly-cut lengths of steel beam, flung hither and yon.


Aerial View, Steel Debris, from BushArchives.org






Aerial View, Steel Debris, from BushArchives.org







Use of Thermite

In its famous attack on skeptics of the official 9/11 story, Popular Mechanics held that the melting agent thermite had never been used in a demolition before. Ironically it had, on the Chicago Sky Ride in 1935. It was reported in Popular Mechanics.

Thermite works by melting through steel like a hot knife through butter, illustrated in the video below.

Thermite vs. Car VIDEO

Reaching temperatures of 5,000F, thermite can be expected to produce large pools of molten steel and iron. This is exactly what was found, to the puzzlement of rescue workers, in the basements of the Twin Towers.

Relatively slow burning thermite would have been used to weaken strong points in the structures, such as mechanical floors, prior to demolition. So it is of interest that in WTC 2, molten steel seen dripping at around floors 80 and 81 corresponded somewhat, but not exactly, to the mechanical floors at floors 75-77, below.


WTC2 South Tower on 9/11 Molten Metal North-East Corner VIDEO


In the following video demonstrating the use of thermite, the characteristic dripping of molten steel can be seen which exactly replicates, in color and consistency, that seen coming from the towers on a larger scale.


Thermite vs. Steel Plate VIDEO


Another interesting use of thermite can be seen the moment just before each demolition when the perimeter columns around the impact areas seem to bow outward, giving the impression of overload. Thermite melting the core columns so that all load is transferred to the perimeter columns would give precisely this effect.

Another spectacular coincidence is the "fireproofing upgrades" which took place a year before 9/11, but only on floors of or near impact in both Towers, floors 92 - 100 in WTC1, and 77 - 78 of WTC2, which required the vacating of tenants during the work (page 42, NIST NCSTAR1-6A.)

Molten iron and steel was not observed dripping from the building until about ten minutes before destruction. This would be when firefighters were reportingthat the fires were under control and almost out.

One thing which stands out about the presence of molten steel in the basements is that it stayed molten for so long, reported for weeks and even months afterwards. This would require a powerful exothermic reaction, hot enough not just to melt steel, but to raise its temperature considerably above melting point in order for heat to be stored, in the same way that water brought to near boiling cools down into the solid state of ice far more slowly than water at room temperature. With the melting point of steel at 2800F, and the thermite reaction reaching temperatures of 5,000F, the reaction would produce enough heat-energy to keep steel molten - i.e. in liquid state - for long periods of time.

Thus the evidence again fits what we would expect to find in a demolition that was a combination of thermite, and cutter and kicker charges.

On 9/11, cutter charges would simply have been much bigger versions of the steel beam cutter charge (linear shape charge) demonstrated in the video below:

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Linear Shape Charges






A video simulation of the Towers' inner structure posted at Youtube includes an illustration of a cutter-kicker sequence.


Click on images to go to Youtube video, sequence begins at 7:20

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Demolitions Expert Tom Sullivan

A demolitions expert formerly with Controlled Demolitions Inc. (CDI,) which was contracted to help with the clean-up phase at Ground Zero, said in an interview:

"Fire cannot bring down steel-framed high rises — period."
Tom Sullivan grew up with the son of Jack Loizeaux, president and founder of CDI,and a pioneer in the controlled demolitions industry. In an interview with Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Sullivan stated:
"that he knew from the first day that the destruction of World Trade Center Building 7 on 9/11 was a classic controlled implosion. Asked how he thought it might have been done he posited, “looking at the building it wouldn’t be a problem — once you gain access to the elevator shafts…then a team of expert loaders would have hidden access to the core columns and beams. The rest can be accomplished with just the right kind of explosives for the job. Thermite can be used as well.”

Sullivan said:

"I mean, come on, it was complete destruction. I've seen buildings fall like that for years -- that was the end game for me."

The means of igniting and controlling the demolition suggested by Sullivan, interestingly, coincides with the one proposed in an early hypothetical blasting scenario by Jim Hoffman, an artificial intelligence engineer. In the section "Control Architecture" of the scenario Hoffman posits:
Control Architecture

Ignition of the incendiaries and detonation of the explosives is controlled through a wireless network using RF repeaters on every floor of the Towers having pyrotechnics.

Each of the Stage-2 pyrotechnics units -- the kicker charges and explosive sheets -- has an integrated wireless detonator card that includes a 2-channel RF receiver, an accelerometer, logic, dual wafer batteries, and a micro-detonator...

The detonator cards are programmed to respond only to RF signals on the network's broadcast frequencies that have specific codes. The cards are manufactured in batches of cards with identical codes, where each batch has a unique code and is destined for a specific floor of one of the Towers.

Of a detonator card's two channels, one provides the arm signal, and the other provides a detonation signal. Once the arm signal has been received, the detonator will be triggered by either of two events: rapid acceleration detected by the accelerometer, or receipt of the detonation signal.

Below is an image of this kind of system currently on the market for CD companies, published at ae911truth.org (Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.)


Wireless Detonation System





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Conclusion

Once 24/7 access to the towers' interiors and the rest of the WTC complex has been established, the planned destruction of the Twin Towers and Building 7 becomes a task for which all technology is well-developed and available. Access is established through Marvin Bush, the youngest Bush brother, who was on the board of Securacom, the company which held the security contract for the World Trade Center complex. According to Barry McDaniel, CEO of Securacom, the company held the contract for security “up to the day the buildings fell down.”

The nexus which seems to connect many of key players in the 9/11 plot is the neoconservative think-tank Project for a New American Century (PNAC.) PNAC, whose members included Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Jeb Bush, Elliot Abrams, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Zalmay Khalilzad, Scooter Libby, and Richard Armitage, had been openly advocating for an invasion of Iraq since the Clinton administration.

Dov Zakheim, another member of PNAC, had been awarded the contract for the first WTC bombing investigation in 1993. The investigation was done by a fully-owned subsidiary of Zakheim's company SPC, Tridata. The contract assured that not only access to the towers was secured, but also floor plans, blueprints, and all other intimate technical knowledge of the buildings.

Zakeim, who was appointed Comptroller of the Pentagon by Bush upon taking office, was also in charge of the Pentagon's finances at the time $2.3 trillion was announced missing from the Pentagon, on September 10 the day before 9/11.Needless to say, after 9/11 "the day the world changed," the story was dropped from the media.

In another coincidence involving Zakheim, his company SPC (of which he was CEO and main shareholder) also invented remote 'anti-hijack" technology, by which an airliner's controls could be seized from the ground to foil hijackers. This technology has obvious ramifications for misuse in the wrong hands.

In a city like New York, the world's most dynamic metropolis, the "city that never sleeps," extra work crews, maintenance crews, technicians, and delivery trucks working round-the-clock would not be noticed. Nevertheless, some people did notice certain unusual events, such as a series of "power downs" and a generally unusual amount of activity in the months before 9/11. In the below video a worker describes a "power down" condition days before 9/11, which would have disabled security cameras and alarms.

Worker Describes "Power Down" Days Before 9/11 VIDEO

One favorite contention of defenders of the official story is that the aircraft impacts would have set-off or destroyed explosive charges. But the loss of a number of charges would be of no consequence in a redundantly "wired" impact zone, since only specific encoded signals could actually arm and trigger the entire detonation sequence.

As Air Force Col. Bob Bowman once said: "If they have nothing to hide, why are they hiding everything?" The immediate, illegal destruction of 99.5% of the steel evidence, shipped to and melted in China, ensures that the vast majority of the steel can never be examined and tested to either confirm or disprove the presence of the above demolition techniques. This alone, said Bowman, is evidence of guilt.

Some kinds of thermite can be applied in a "sol-gel" solution, which can be rolled on like paint, or fireproofing. Think how inconvenient, then, to have steel beams examined and found to have layers of residual thermite paint. It is no wonder that putting the steel onto ships bound for China, immediately, was of the utmost importance, even if it represented felony destruction of evidence.

In the end the testimony of firefighters and other responders, like Firefighter John Schroeder below, stands as the most powerful indicator of what happened that day. Schroeder, who says he does not believe the official story, and who was on the 24th floor of the North Tower, reports explosions rocking the building from the inside, as it seemed to "disintegrate" from the core and the stairwells. This is precisely the part of the structure which would be most critical to weaken before a final demolition sequence.


Firefighter John Schroeder VIDEO

There is no shortage of testimony corroborating Schroeder's description of explosions throughout the morning, which might correspond to the preliminary weakening of the buildings' strong points. Not one of these reports of explosions was included in the official 9/11 Commission report.

One such explosion is captured on video below.


Prep Charge Explosion VIDEO

The audio evidence includes footage of what is clearly an accelerating demolition sequence, below.


Explosive Sequence, South Tower

Finally, there is the plethora of other puzzles beyond the scope of this essay, the scheduling of multiple war-games on the fateful day which sent much of the air defense force outside the nation's borders, the fantastic sudden flying skills of incompetent pilots, and of course the impossibility of the official explanation relying on a notion of mass accelerating in proportion to its increasing weight, which is a physics chimera (all mass of any weight accelerates to the ground at the same rate, and can only go slower as it meets resistance, not faster, as it was shown by Galileo.)



Other anomalies and coincidences in the evidence of 9/11 continue to arise, and together with the above demolition hypothesis continue to provide clues as to just how it was done.

This essay is dedicated to U.S. Air Force Colonel Dr. Robert Bowman, (1934-2013,) without whom the movement for 9/11 truth would not be where it is today.

Important further reading and resources

U.S. Military Officers and Patriots Question 9/11

9/11 Skeptics to Mark Anniversary with Vigils, Lawsuit

9/11Evidence.org

9/11 Truth Action Project

9/11Research

Pilots for 9/11 Truth

Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth

Documentary: 9/11 The New Pearl Harbor





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This shit again? Oh, the holes in the demolition theory, one of the dumbest conspiracies this side of Birtherism.

1) Controlled demolition is bottom to top. The main supports are blown out at the bottom with kicker charges breaking up the upper floor so the building falls more or less straight down.

The WTC 1 and 2 came down top to bottom, with the collapse beginning at the point of impact with a plane and proceeding downward, one floor at a time, until it reached the debris field hit the ground.

Literally opposite of controlled demolition.

2) Also, lets look how many charges you would need for the demolition theory. There were 47 core columns and 236 narrow collumns as part of the outer panels. 77 floors to the ground in WTC 2. 93 floors to the ground in WTC 1. Since the collapse occured OPPOSITE of controlled demolition, top to bottom, every single floor to the ground would have to be individually demolished.

Which means there would have had to have been almost 50,000 individual explosives between both towers. These buildings weren't museums. They were regularly occupied with over a 90% occupancy rate, they were maintained, they were patrolled they were inspected. And yet there wasn't a single report of a single charge....ever. Despite the 'demolition theory' needing 50,000 of them.

In normal controlled demolition a building the buiding has already been emptied. All the sheet rock and carpeting has been removed. And the walls stripped to bare girders. In the demolition theory, the bombs would have been laid behind sheet rock, hidden to be imperceptible to people that worked and maintained the buildings, knowing them like the back of their hands.

50,000 times.

Ridiculous you say? Ludicriously implausible you say? Oh it gets so much worse.

3) Due to reports of bomb threats, the Port Authority Bomb squad was on site with bomb sniffing dogs on site at the WTC until 3 days before the attack. So in addition to being able to evade.....everyone, every office goer, every maintenance tech, every inspector, every handyman or contractor on every floor, perfectly.....

These mystery explosives were also missed by the BOMB squad, complete with bomb sniffing dogs?

Um, no. That's fucking ridiculous. The bomb theory is just a ludicrous explanation. And it STILL gets so much worse.

4) The dust.

45.1% Fiberglass, rock wool (insulation, fireproofing)
31.8% Plaster (gypsum), concrete products (calcium sulfate, selenite, muscodite)
7.1% Charred wood and debris
2.1% Paper fibers
2.1% Mica flakes
2.0% Ceiling tiles (fiberglass component)
2.0% Synthetic fibers
1.4% Glass fragments
1.3% Human remains
1.4% Natural fibers
trace asbestos (it became illegal to use during the construction of the WTC)

Other trace elements: aluminum, paint pigments, blood, hair, glass wool with resin, and prescription drugs were found.

Microscopic analysis of WTC dust by Nicholas Petraco, BS, MS, DABC, FAAFS, FNYMS at The New York Microscopic Society lecture held at AMNH 28 May 2003

In a microscoptic analysis of the dust so precise that they were able to measure prescription drugs from the WTC pharmecy......they completely missed any residue of 50,000 explosives?

Um, no.

Rather than 50,000 invisible, fire proof, undetectable bombs installed by ninja janitors without leaving a trace and leaving absolutely no residue I have a much simpler explanation that matches the evidence and doesn't require a stupidly elaborate, wildly complicated, hopelessly convoluted story backed by jack shit.

It was a structural collapse caused by the catastrophic impact and accompanying massive fire.

No magic bombs or ninja janitors necessary.

 

[MisterBeale]

We have listen to you RETARDS for years now, yet you can not answer simple questions, like how did the conspiracy plant all the explosives wire them up and time them for impact with the planes and NO one of the THOUSANDS of people that worked in the buildings ever saw a thing?

How about how did they keep all the people that would be needed to seed the buildings from talking all these years?

If planes did not hit the three buildings what happened to the crew , PASSENGERS AND planes?

If a drone was used against the pentagon who and what launched it from whose arsenal did it come and who made it so it would leave no debris behind? Further how come the pattern in the Pentagon DOES NOT MATCH a drone? Ohh ya and who paid off the witnesses that saw the plane and why have they not blabbed about it after all these years?

There are many more questions if you claim no planes were used and even more f you claim some nefarious group of Government stooges wired the twin towers.

You obviously didn't read the post. Go wallow in your stupidity and ignorance alone. The real patriots are waking up. You are too dumb to bother with, I am interested in having discussions with intelligent people who want the truth, whatever it may be.

You also obviously are a hick who has never been to NYC. They don't roll up the sidewalks at 6, people are everywhere working all the time, 24/7, especially the WTC, and no one cares what they are doing.

You are not going to answer because you CAN NOT. For one thing dumb ass, the towers did not collapse in 14 seconds, they collapsed over time. I still wanna know how they faked 4 airplanes? How you dismiss eyewitness accounts in Washington DC or eye witness accounts in New York?

And yes security or some one would have noticed if people were wire pillars for demolition. you can hide the wires and the electronics nor the blocks of explosives.

Funny you don't bother with anything even remotely the truth, "did not collapse in 14 seconds, they collapsed over time." No one said airplanes were faked. Everything you say can now be skipped over. You are either a shill or a moron. Either way not worth arguing with. If you are shill you should be prosecuted as an accomplice.



WTC7, remember was not even hit by a plane.

This version of WTC 7 collapsing is better. . .

You ACTUAL are going to claim no one said the planes were fake that no plane hit the Pentagon or went down in Pennsylvania ? Gonna deny some one said a drone was used on the pentagon?

So if you don't deny the planes and claim the 19 terrorists were really working for the Government explain in detail how the Government got them to commit suicide for the US Government? Explain how after all this time NO one that placed the explosives has talked about it?

Of course disinformation folks have made all sorts of claims.

Parsing out the truth when there are so many counter intelligence groups is nearly impossible.

Explaining how, after all this time, no one has talked about any explosives, is relatively easy. Special-Op forces are not supposed to talk about their missions. There are hundreds and hundreds of missions we know nothing about. Everything in operations like these are compartmentalized and on a need to know basis. Most of the folks that participate in it, actually believe the official story due to the way things are planned.

For instance, if you have security contractors going into the building to do upgrades months before, and they are unaware that their upgrades are in fact explosives, what is there to tell? They don't know a thing. Not knowing how everything is done is part of the obfuscation, part of the illusion.

E. Howard Hunt and Woody Harrelson's dad, Charles Harrelson, both confessed on JFK decades after it happened. Just b/c you did not hear about it doesn't mean it didn't happen. In fact, there were something like 8 or 9 shooters that day. Most of them missed. But the affect has people seeing strange things everywhere, puffs of smoke, suspicious people, weird forensics at the crime scene and at the autopsy and concocting strange theories.

The same thing is going on here. Multiple avenues to bring down the towers were in play, and they had a patsy also in mind. Also, all of these scenario's, like the JFK operation, were probably ignorant of each other, so the "official" story is what each of the other operations believe is what got the job done.

Do you even know what Operation Northwoods is? Do you know who Sibel Edmonds is? What makes you think the corporate media would even make you aware of whistle blowers and confessions about people within the intel. agencies, in the government or military, furthering a plot to construct an enemy for the military industrial establishment? The CFR works with their corporate sponsors in conjunction with government officials. Anyone that doesn't toe the establishment line has their career black-balled and is labeled as such. You think folks want to end up like Alex Jones and Mike Adams?

If you had looked at all of the information I had posted, it is right there for you.

A lot of this information is slowly disappearing, and relevant witnesses that had, or have been speaking are strangely dying off. That is a pretty good incentive to keep one's trap shut.

 

[Skylar]

You obviously didn't read the post. Go wallow in your stupidity and ignorance alone. The real patriots are waking up. You are too dumb to bother with, I am interested in having discussions with intelligent people who want the truth, whatever it may be.

You also obviously are a hick who has never been to NYC. They don't roll up the sidewalks at 6, people are everywhere working all the time, 24/7, especially the WTC, and no one cares what they are doing.

You are not going to answer because you CAN NOT. For one thing dumb ass, the towers did not collapse in 14 seconds, they collapsed over time. I still wanna know how they faked 4 airplanes? How you dismiss eyewitness accounts in Washington DC or eye witness accounts in New York?

And yes security or some one would have noticed if people were wire pillars for demolition. you can hide the wires and the electronics nor the blocks of explosives.

Funny you don't bother with anything even remotely the truth, "did not collapse in 14 seconds, they collapsed over time." No one said airplanes were faked. Everything you say can now be skipped over. You are either a shill or a moron. Either way not worth arguing with. If you are shill you should be prosecuted as an accomplice.



WTC7, remember was not even hit by a plane.

This version of WTC 7 collapsing is better. . .

You ACTUAL are going to claim no one said the planes were fake that no plane hit the Pentagon or went down in Pennsylvania ? Gonna deny some one said a drone was used on the pentagon?

So if you don't deny the planes and claim the 19 terrorists were really working for the Government explain in detail how the Government got them to commit suicide for the US Government? Explain how after all this time NO one that placed the explosives has talked about it?

Of course disinformation folks have made all sorts of claims.

Parsing out the truth when there are so many counter intelligence groups is nearly impossible.

Explaining how, after all this time, no one has talked about any explosives, is relatively easy. Special-Op forces are not supposed to talk about their missions. There are hundreds and hundreds of missions we know nothing about. Everything in operations like these are compartmentalized and on a need to know basis. Most of the folks that participate in it, actually believe the official story due to the way things are planned.

For instance, if you have security contractors going into the building to do upgrades months before, and they are unaware that their upgrades are in fact explosives, what is there to tell? They don't know a thing. Not knowing how everything is done is part of the obfuscation, part of the illusion.

The Port Authority Bomb Squad with Bomb sniffing dogs were there three days before the attack.

In addition to the absolute absurdity of 'security contractors' laying and wiring tens of thousands of individual explosives with *no one noticing* despite the buiding being over 90% occupied, inspected, renovated and maintained....

.....your 'easy explanation' would have us believe that the Port Authority Bomb Squad and their bomb sniffing dogs missed the tens of thousands of bombs too?

All without evidence of a single charge, an inch of blasting wire, a single detonator, nor a spec of residue of any explosive?

Um, no. That's just an awful, awful explanation.

 

[buttercup]

We have listen to you RETARDS for years now, yet you can not answer simple questions, like how did the conspiracy plant all the explosives wire them up and time them for impact with the planes and NO one of the THOUSANDS of people that worked in the buildings ever saw a thing?

How about how did they keep all the people that would be needed to seed the buildings from talking all these years?

If planes did not hit the three buildings what happened to the crew , PASSENGERS AND planes?

If a drone was used against the pentagon who and what launched it from whose arsenal did it come and who made it so it would leave no debris behind? Further how come the pattern in the Pentagon DOES NOT MATCH a drone? Ohh ya and who paid off the witnesses that saw the plane and why have they not blabbed about it after all these years?

There are many more questions if you claim no planes were used and even more f you claim some nefarious group of Government stooges wired the twin towers.

You obviously didn't read the post. Go wallow in your stupidity and ignorance alone. The real patriots are waking up. You are too dumb to bother with, I am interested in having discussions with intelligent people who want the truth, whatever it may be.

You also obviously are a hick who has never been to NYC. They don't roll up the sidewalks at 6, people are everywhere working all the time, 24/7, especially the WTC, and no one cares what they are doing.

You are not going to answer because you CAN NOT. For one thing dumb ass, the towers did not collapse in 14 seconds, they collapsed over time. I still wanna know how they faked 4 airplanes? How you dismiss eyewitness accounts in Washington DC or eye witness accounts in New York?

And yes security or some one would have noticed if people were wire pillars for demolition. you can hide the wires and the electronics nor the blocks of explosives.

Funny you don't bother with anything even remotely the truth, "did not collapse in 14 seconds, they collapsed over time." No one said airplanes were faked. Everything you say can now be skipped over. You are either a shill or a moron. Either way not worth arguing with. If you are shill you should be prosecuted as an accomplice.



WTC7, remember was not even hit by a plane.

This version of WTC 7 collapsing is better. . .

The fact that this was a false flag event that so many still refuse to acknowledge, is a testament to the power of TV propaganda and the CIA controlled media and their ability to try and shame anyone that has the unmitigated gall to call 9/11/01 for what it was.

By the way, I created a mini-documentary on false flags, listing all the telltale signs and showing numerous examples. When it started getting thousands of views, it got removed by YouTube. And even after I removed one clip that was flagged for a copyright issue, and reuploaded it, they later removed it again, even though nothing about it was against the rules.

There is a definite move to silence anyone who tries to expose false flags and the criminals in power.

 

[MisterBeale]

You are not going to answer because you CAN NOT. For one thing dumb ass, the towers did not collapse in 14 seconds, they collapsed over time. I still wanna know how they faked 4 airplanes? How you dismiss eyewitness accounts in Washington DC or eye witness accounts in New York?

And yes security or some one would have noticed if people were wire pillars for demolition. you can hide the wires and the electronics nor the blocks of explosives.

Funny you don't bother with anything even remotely the truth, "did not collapse in 14 seconds, they collapsed over time." No one said airplanes were faked. Everything you say can now be skipped over. You are either a shill or a moron. Either way not worth arguing with. If you are shill you should be prosecuted as an accomplice.



WTC7, remember was not even hit by a plane.

This version of WTC 7 collapsing is better. . .

You ACTUAL are going to claim no one said the planes were fake that no plane hit the Pentagon or went down in Pennsylvania ? Gonna deny some one said a drone was used on the pentagon?

So if you don't deny the planes and claim the 19 terrorists were really working for the Government explain in detail how the Government got them to commit suicide for the US Government? Explain how after all this time NO one that placed the explosives has talked about it?

Of course disinformation folks have made all sorts of claims.

Parsing out the truth when there are so many counter intelligence groups is nearly impossible.

Explaining how, after all this time, no one has talked about any explosives, is relatively easy. Special-Op forces are not supposed to talk about their missions. There are hundreds and hundreds of missions we know nothing about. Everything in operations like these are compartmentalized and on a need to know basis. Most of the folks that participate in it, actually believe the official story due to the way things are planned.

For instance, if you have security contractors going into the building to do upgrades months before, and they are unaware that their upgrades are in fact explosives, what is there to tell? They don't know a thing. Not knowing how everything is done is part of the obfuscation, part of the illusion.

The Port Authority Bomb Squad with Bomb sniffing dogs were there three days before the attack.

In addition to the absolute absurdity of 'security contractors' laying and wiring tens of thousands of individual explosives with *no one noticing* despite the buiding being over 90% occupied, inspected, renovated and maintained....

.....your 'easy explanation' would have us believe that the Port Authority Bomb Squad and their bomb sniffing dogs missed the tens of thousands of bombs too?

All without evidence of a single charge, an inch of blasting wire, a single detonator, nor a spec of residue of any explosive?

Um, no. That's just an awful, awful explanation.

I'd like to read that article about those dogs. Link me to that, would you?