On The Flip Side of Hollywood

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I received this in an email this morning...have no way to know if it's 100% accurate, although I suspect it is given what I know of these people, nor to whom the credit belongs for codifying all this info.

It's great nonetheless.

"In contrast to the ideals, opinions and feelings of today's "Hollywonk" the real actors of yester-year loved the United States. They had both class and integrity. With the advent of World War many of our actors went to fight rather than stand and rant against this country we all love. They gave up their wealth, position and fame to become service men &women, many as simple "enlisted men." This page lists but a few, but from this group of only 18 men came over 70 medals in honor of their valor, spanning from Bronze Stars, Silver Stars, Distinguish Service Cross', Purple Hearts and one Congressional Medal of Honor. So remember; while the "Entertainers of 2003" have been in all of the news media lately (for it seems News Paper, Television and Radio has been more than ready to put them and their anti-American, anti-Bush message before the public) I would like to remind the people of what the entertainers of 1943 were doing, (60 years ago). Most of these brave men have since passed on.

Alec Guinness (Star Wars) operated a British Royal Navy landing craft on D-Day.
James Doohan ("Scotty" on Star Trek) landed in Normandy with the U. S. Army on D-Day.
Donald Pleasance (The Great Escape) really was an R. A. F. pilot who was shot down, held prisoner and tortured by the Germans.
David Niven was a Sandhurst graduate and Lt. Colonel of the British Commandos in Normandy.
James Stewart Entered the Army Air Force as a private and worked his way to the rank of Colonel. During World War II, Stewart served as a bomber pilot, his service record crediting him with leading more than 20 missions over Germany, and taking part in hundreds of air strikes during his tour of duty. Stewart earned the Air Medal, the Distinguished Flying Cross, France's Croix de Guerre, and 7 Battle Stars during World War II. In peace time, Stewart continued to be an active member of the Air Force as a reservist, reaching the rank of Brigadier General before retiring in the late 1950s.
Clark Gable (Mega-Movie Star when war broke out) Although he was beyond the draft age at the time the U.S. entered WW II, Clark Gable enlisted as a private in the AAF on Aug. 12, 1942 at Los Angeles. He attended the Officers' Candidate School at Miami Beach, Fla. and graduated as a second lieutenant on Oct. 28, 1942. He then attended aerial gunnery school and in Feb. 1943 he was assigned to the 351st Bomb Group at Polebrook where flew operational missions over Europe in B-17s Capt. Gable returned to the U.S. in Oct. 1943 and was relieved from active duty as a major on Jun. 12, 1944 at his own request, since he was over-age for combat.
Charlton Heston was an Army Air Corps Sergeant in Kodiak.
Earnest Borgnine was a U. S. Navy Gunners Mate 1935-1945.
Charles Durning was a U. S. Army Ranger at Normandy earning a Silver Star and awarded the Purple Heart.
Charles Bronson was a tail gunner in the Army Air Corps, more specifically on B-29s in the 20th Air Force out of Guam, Tinian, and Saipan
George C. Scott was a decorated U. S. Marine.
Eddie Albert (Green Acres TV) was awarded a Bronze Star for his heroic action as a U. S. Naval officer aiding Marines at the horrific battle on the island of Tarawa in the Pacific Nov. 1943.
Brian Keith served as a U.S. Marine rear gunner in several actions against the Japanese on Rabal in the Pacific.
Lee Marvin was a U.S. Marine on Saipan during the Marianas campaign when he was wounded earning the Purple Heart.
John Russell: In 1942, he enlisted in the Marine Corps where he received a battlefield commission and was wounded and highly decorated for valor at Guadalcanal.
Robert Ryan was a U. S. Marine who served with the O. S. S. in Yugoslavia..
Tyrone Power (an established movie star when Pearl Harbor was bombed) joined the U.S. Marines, was a pilot flying supplies into, and wounded Marines out of, Iwo Jima and Okinawa.
Audie Murphy, little 5'5" tall 110 pound guy from Texas who played cowboy parts? Most Decorated serviceman of WWII and earned: Medal of Honor, Distinguished Service Cross, 2 Silver Star Medals, Legion of Merit, 2 Bronze Star Medals with "V", 2 Purple Hearts, U.S. Army Outstanding Civilian Service Medal, Good Conduct Medal, 2 Distinguished Unit Emblems, American Campaign Medal, European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign Medal with One Silver Star, Four Bronze Service Stars (representing nine campaigns) and one Bronze Arrowhead (representing assault landing at Sicily and Southern France) World War II Victory Medal Army of Occupation Medal with Germany Clasp, Armed Forces Reserve Medal, Combat Infantry Badge, Marksman Badge with Rifle Bar, Expert Badge with Bayonet Bar, French Fourragere in Colors of the Croix de Guerre, French Legion of Honor, Grade of Chevalier, French Croix de Guerre With Silver Star, French Croix de Guerre with Palm, Medal of Liberated France, Belgian Croix de Guerre 1940 Palm.
So how do you feel the real heroes of the silver screen acted when compared to the hollywonks today who spray out anti-American drivel as they bite the hand that feeds them? Can you imagine these stars of yester-year saying they hate our flag, making anti-war speeches, marching in anti-American parades and saying they hate our President? I thought not, neither did I!
If you enjoyed the story send it on
GOD BLESS AMERICA"
 
Moi said:
I received this in an email this morning...have no way to know if it's 100% accurate, although I suspect it is given what I know of these people, nor to whom the credit belongs for codifying all this info.

It's great nonetheless.

"In contrast to the ideals, opinions and feelings of today's "Hollywonk" the real actors of yester-year loved the United States. They had both class and integrity. With the advent of World War many of our actors went to fight rather than stand and rant against this country we all love. They gave up their wealth, position and fame to become service men &women, many as simple "enlisted men." This page lists but a few, but from this group of only 18 men came over 70 medals in honor of their valor, spanning from Bronze Stars, Silver Stars, Distinguish Service Cross', Purple Hearts and one Congressional Medal of Honor. So remember; while the "Entertainers of 2003" have been in all of the news media lately (for it seems News Paper, Television and Radio has been more than ready to put them and their anti-American, anti-Bush message before the public) I would like to remind the people of what the entertainers of 1943 were doing, (60 years ago). Most of these brave men have since passed on.

Alec Guinness (Star Wars) operated a British Royal Navy landing craft on D-Day.
James Doohan ("Scotty" on Star Trek) landed in Normandy with the U. S. Army on D-Day.
Donald Pleasance (The Great Escape) really was an R. A. F. pilot who was shot down, held prisoner and tortured by the Germans.
David Niven was a Sandhurst graduate and Lt. Colonel of the British Commandos in Normandy.
James Stewart Entered the Army Air Force as a private and worked his way to the rank of Colonel. During World War II, Stewart served as a bomber pilot, his service record crediting him with leading more than 20 missions over Germany, and taking part in hundreds of air strikes during his tour of duty. Stewart earned the Air Medal, the Distinguished Flying Cross, France's Croix de Guerre, and 7 Battle Stars during World War II. In peace time, Stewart continued to be an active member of the Air Force as a reservist, reaching the rank of Brigadier General before retiring in the late 1950s.
Clark Gable (Mega-Movie Star when war broke out) Although he was beyond the draft age at the time the U.S. entered WW II, Clark Gable enlisted as a private in the AAF on Aug. 12, 1942 at Los Angeles. He attended the Officers' Candidate School at Miami Beach, Fla. and graduated as a second lieutenant on Oct. 28, 1942. He then attended aerial gunnery school and in Feb. 1943 he was assigned to the 351st Bomb Group at Polebrook where flew operational missions over Europe in B-17s Capt. Gable returned to the U.S. in Oct. 1943 and was relieved from active duty as a major on Jun. 12, 1944 at his own request, since he was over-age for combat.
Charlton Heston was an Army Air Corps Sergeant in Kodiak.
Earnest Borgnine was a U. S. Navy Gunners Mate 1935-1945.
Charles Durning was a U. S. Army Ranger at Normandy earning a Silver Star and awarded the Purple Heart.
Charles Bronson was a tail gunner in the Army Air Corps, more specifically on B-29s in the 20th Air Force out of Guam, Tinian, and Saipan
George C. Scott was a decorated U. S. Marine.
Eddie Albert (Green Acres TV) was awarded a Bronze Star for his heroic action as a U. S. Naval officer aiding Marines at the horrific battle on the island of Tarawa in the Pacific Nov. 1943.
Brian Keith served as a U.S. Marine rear gunner in several actions against the Japanese on Rabal in the Pacific.
Lee Marvin was a U.S. Marine on Saipan during the Marianas campaign when he was wounded earning the Purple Heart.
John Russell: In 1942, he enlisted in the Marine Corps where he received a battlefield commission and was wounded and highly decorated for valor at Guadalcanal.
Robert Ryan was a U. S. Marine who served with the O. S. S. in Yugoslavia..
Tyrone Power (an established movie star when Pearl Harbor was bombed) joined the U.S. Marines, was a pilot flying supplies into, and wounded Marines out of, Iwo Jima and Okinawa.
Audie Murphy, little 5'5" tall 110 pound guy from Texas who played cowboy parts? Most Decorated serviceman of WWII and earned: Medal of Honor, Distinguished Service Cross, 2 Silver Star Medals, Legion of Merit, 2 Bronze Star Medals with "V", 2 Purple Hearts, U.S. Army Outstanding Civilian Service Medal, Good Conduct Medal, 2 Distinguished Unit Emblems, American Campaign Medal, European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign Medal with One Silver Star, Four Bronze Service Stars (representing nine campaigns) and one Bronze Arrowhead (representing assault landing at Sicily and Southern France) World War II Victory Medal Army of Occupation Medal with Germany Clasp, Armed Forces Reserve Medal, Combat Infantry Badge, Marksman Badge with Rifle Bar, Expert Badge with Bayonet Bar, French Fourragere in Colors of the Croix de Guerre, French Legion of Honor, Grade of Chevalier, French Croix de Guerre With Silver Star, French Croix de Guerre with Palm, Medal of Liberated France, Belgian Croix de Guerre 1940 Palm.
So how do you feel the real heroes of the silver screen acted when compared to the hollywonks today who spray out anti-American drivel as they bite the hand that feeds them? Can you imagine these stars of yester-year saying they hate our flag, making anti-war speeches, marching in anti-American parades and saying they hate our President? I thought not, neither did I!
If you enjoyed the story send it on
GOD BLESS AMERICA"

Great post.........What a sharp contrast from the empty headed shallow twits in Hollywood today :stupid:
 
Sir Evil said:
Hmmm, A good place to create a list of today's big mouths of the screen!


Susan Sarandon
Tim Robbins
Martin Sheen

Feel Free To Add More!

Ben "I make dud movies" Affleck
Woody "Pass the bong" Harrelson
 
Sir Evil said:
Hmmm, A good place to create a list of today's big mouths of the screen!


Susan Sarandon
Tim Robbins
Martin Sheen

Feel Free To Add More!

This is going to turn out to be a long list..Here are a few more

Sean Penn
Robert Fidel Redford
Sarah Jessica Parker
Stephen Speilberg
Hanoi Jane
Ted Turner
Julia Roberts
Danny Glover
Little Lenny DiCaprio
Johnny Depp Shame cause he's nice lookin
Jennifer Anniston
Donna Mills
Tom Hanks
Alicia Silverstone
Wynnona Ryder
Madonna
Drew Barrymore..............more to come
 
Hannitized said:
Tom Hanks? Damn I wished I wouldn't have read that. :slap:

It really does suck because I love movies, but it's to the point that Im so turned off to hollywood I can't even look at their faces anymore. Tom Hanks was surprising to me at first but Im realising most of them are like that, if not in private, most definately in public........Maybe they think they are impressing their peers, trouble is there really is no one in Hollywood left to to impress.

Here is a list of some good guys....A few of these may surprise you:

Gary Oldman
James Woods
Mel Gibson
Patricia Hettig
Sly Stone
John Malchovich
Jay Leno
Val Kilmer...........more but names escape me right now
 
freeandfun1 said:
Ben "I make dud movies" Affleck
Woody "Pass the bong" Harrelson

Ben Affleck is just the most boring looking and boring acting actor I have ever seen. they may as well just put a lifesize card board cut out of him and skip paying him the high salary.......No one (wood)pun........ even notice
 
Bonnie said:
It really does suck because I love movies, but it's to the point that Im so turned off to hollywood I can't even look at their faces anymore. Tom Hanks was surprising to me at first but Im realising most of them are like that, if not in private, most definately in public........Maybe they think they are impressing their peers, trouble is there really is no one in Hollywood left to to impress.

Here is a list of some good guys....A few of these may surprise you:

Gary Oldman
James Woods
Mel Gibson
Patricia Hettig
Sly Stone
John Malchovich
Jay Leno
Val Kilmer...........more but names escape me right now

Really Malkovich and Kilmer? I would have never guessed that.

Obviously Arnold is in there. Also Bruce Willis.
 
I like James Woods.

http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2001/cyb20011009.asp#3

Some tough talk from one Hollywood star. In an interview shown on Monday’s Entertainment Tonight, actor James Woods, who conceded "I’m sort of not your average liberal Hollywood bear," asserted that "simple logic tells you that if somebody wants you dead you have one course of action: To get them deader sooner." Woods approvingly suggested that "if this had happened to the Russians, about three major cities in the Middle East would have been parking lots in twenty minutes" and "and they wouldn’t have worried about the consequences because there would not have been any because the remaining terrorist states would have said ‘we get the message.’"

In an interview with Entertainment Tonight’s Jann Carl completed before the U.S. response on Sunday, Woods urged on any U.S. retaliation:
"I’m sort of not your average liberal Hollywood bear here so, you know, this is just a personal opinion but I happen to think right now that this is a war that we’re now engaged in with the single most ruthless and cunning enemy that we have ever encountered because it’s the first enemy we’ve ever had who doesn’t mind if he is destroyed along with us. And he has no agenda other than our complete and utter and total destruction. It’s ‘we want you eradicated from the face of the Earth.’ Well, simple logic tells you that if somebody wants you dead you have one course of action: To get them deader sooner."

Woods also argued: "If this had happened to the Russians, about three major cities in the Middle East would have been parking lots in twenty minutes. They would have been molten green glass, not a single thing would have lived there for 250,000 years and they wouldn’t have worried about the consequences because there would not have been any because the remaining terrorist states would have said ‘we get the message.’"

I love his style.
 
Yeah I was surprised that Woods was conservative but happy......I was very shocked at Gary Oldman because he always struck me as kind of out there, but I always liked his style as well. He got castrated from Hollywood after he starred in a movie in which he played a pro-life senator who presided over the nomination of a female vice presidential candidate.
 
I guess this just goes to show the big generation gap between us and them. I've told my husband,I would love to be in those times(not the war necessarily),just becuase I love everything about the people,the movies and the way things were. My grandma had a big influence on me and my grandpa was in WW2. I loved hearing her stories about when he was at war and she lived with his mom because both her parents had passed away. That time was so different and people stood for their country wether they agreed with who was President or not. Not to sound corny,but things were simpler then and so many more values! Hollywood has probably never been perfect,but I bet there was a time when you could really admire the actors and not depise them because they have made a carrer of spouting off at the other political party all the time.
 
krisy said:
I guess this just goes to show the big generation gap between us and them. I've told my husband,I would love to be in those times(not the war necessarily),just becuase I love everything about the people,the movies and the way things were. My grandma had a big influence on me and my grandpa was in WW2. I loved hearing her stories about when he was at war and she lived with his mom because both her parents had passed away. That time was so different and people stood for their country wether they agreed with who was President or not. Not to sound corny,but things were simpler then and so many more values! Hollywood has probably never been perfect,but I bet there was a time when you could really admire the actors and not depise them because they have made a carrer of spouting off at the other political party all the time.

I sometimes feel the exact same way.......My mother always tells me how nice things were for the most part when she was growing up in the late fifities, early sixties...Simpler :tng:
 
Bonnie said:
I sometimes feel the exact same way.......My mother always tells me how nice things were for the most part when she was growing up in the late fifities, early sixties...Simpler :tng:

Except for the fear of nukes! Was a 'complex' simpler!
 
Kathianne said:
Except for the fear of nukes! Was a 'complex' simpler!

Funny you mention that.....

I was just thinking; is it time for a "Daisy Ad" from the Republicans. One that shows the world ending in a nuclear Holocaust because of INACTION. We should turn Johnson's ad around on the democraps.
 
freeandfun1 said:
Funny you mention that.....

I was just thinking; is it time for a "Daisy Ad" from the Republicans. One that shows the world ending in a nuclear Holocaust because of INACTION. We should turn Johnson's ad around on the democraps.


I vaguely remember that ad, then again, might be from pol. sci. course?.... :shocked: I was about 5 then...
 
did anyone mention Tom Selleck on the "good" side of Hollywood?? He's a card-carrying member of the NRA just like me!

BTW, what's up with Tom Hanks? I've never heard him say anything controversial or use his influence poorly. (I'm with whomever said they wished they hadn't heard that...)
 
Kathianne said:
Except for the fear of nukes! Was a 'complex' simpler!

Yeah :eek: Nukes aside I think she was referring to the much less occurance of societal decay, people were more innocent then in a way maybe a bit more civil and moral. I guess every generation feels that way though.
 
Bonnie said:
Yeah :eek: Nukes aside I think she was referring to the much less occurance of societal decay, people were more innocent then in a way maybe a bit more civil and moral. I guess every generation feels that way though.

Well it was more 'homey' in the sense that I didn't know one family where the mom wasn't 'at home', thus we were always 'watched'. I even got spanked by a neighbor one, for playing chicken on the train tracks! Poor woman nearly had a heart attack!
 

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