On July 2008 obama violated the logan act of 1799

[bigrebnc1775]

The logan act of 1799 states

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).


Keith Olbermann of all people without knowing he did explains and shows how obama did it.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbq8aD_KAzc]YouTube - Keith Olbermann comments on Obama/Maliki timetable[/ame]

 

[Big Fitz]

When was the last conviction of violating the Logan Act?

Who would ever prosecute him when there have been so many other examples of violations of the Logan act that have gone unpunished since the Vietnam War.

Personally, I think we SHOULD start prosecuting and with conviction punishing to the fullest extent of the law the Logan act, and maybe half the 5th column stuff will quit happening to us.

I wonder though. Is 3 years and a fine enough of a punishment?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

When was the last conviction of violating the Logan Act?

Who would ever prosecute him when there have been so many other examples of violations of the Logan act that have gone unpunished since the Vietnam War.

Personally, I think we SHOULD start prosecuting and with conviction punishing to the fullest extent of the law the Logan act, and maybe half the 5th column stuff will quit happening to us.

I wonder though. Is 3 years and a fine enough of a punishment?

When was the last time someone tried to delay atroop withdraws from a hostile country?

 

[Zona]

The logan act of 1799 states

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).


Keith Olbermann of all people without knowing he did explains and shows how obama did it.
YouTube - Keith Olbermann comments on Obama/Maliki timetable

Just like I tell the birthers, keep trying. lol

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The logan act of 1799 states

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).


Keith Olbermann of all people without knowing he did explains and shows how obama did it.
YouTube - Keith Olbermann comments on Obama/Maliki timetable

Just like I tell the birthers, keep trying. lol

care to discuss it or are you a hit an run troll?

 

[Care4all]

The logan act of 1799 states

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).

do you comprehend english? WHERE in the logan act does it say an official of the us can not speak with foreigners???

 

[Zona]

The logan act of 1799 states

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).


Keith Olbermann of all people without knowing he did explains and shows how obama did it.
YouTube - Keith Olbermann comments on Obama/Maliki timetable

Just like I tell the birthers, keep trying. lol

care to discuss it or are you a hit an run troll?

yes.

 

[Big Fitz]

When was the last conviction of violating the Logan Act?

Who would ever prosecute him when there have been so many other examples of violations of the Logan act that have gone unpunished since the Vietnam War.

Personally, I think we SHOULD start prosecuting and with conviction punishing to the fullest extent of the law the Logan act, and maybe half the 5th column stuff will quit happening to us.

I wonder though. Is 3 years and a fine enough of a punishment?

When was the last time someone tried to delay atroop withdraws from a hostile country?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The logan act of 1799 states

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).

do you comprehend english? WHERE in the logan act does it say an official of the us can not speak with foreigners???

It seems I am not the one with the comprehendsion problem

directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government
Intercource is defined as
INTERCOURSE. Communication; commerce; connexion by reciprocal dealings between persons or nations, as by interchange of commodities, treaties, contracts, or letters.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/intercourse

 

[ConHog]

This is another stupid argument. Do you realize how many treaties we would have if this stupid act were actually enforced against our government officials? NONE. This is a non starter

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The logan act of 1799 states

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).


Keith Olbermann of all people without knowing he did explains and shows how obama did it.
YouTube - Keith Olbermann comments on Obama/Maliki timetable

Are you actually trying to claim that a representative of the US government, which a Senator is, is not authorized to speak to the representatives of another government about anything but the weather?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The logan act of 1799 states

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).


Keith Olbermann of all people without knowing he did explains and shows how obama did it.
YouTube - Keith Olbermann comments on Obama/Maliki timetable

Are you actually trying to claim that a representative of the US government, which a Senator is, is not authorized to speak to the representatives of another government about anything but the weather?

He has to be sent by the President. He can't do it on his own. Whio makes war plans and troop movements? It sure isn't a senator.

 

[ConHog]

The logan act of 1799 states

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).


Keith Olbermann of all people without knowing he did explains and shows how obama did it.
YouTube - Keith Olbermann comments on Obama/Maliki timetable

Are you actually trying to claim that a representative of the US government, which a Senator is, is not authorized to speak to the representatives of another government about anything but the weather?

Apparently that is the case. I guess he doesn't understand the entire purpose of the State Dep't.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The logan act of 1799 states

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).


Keith Olbermann of all people without knowing he did explains and shows how obama did it.
YouTube - Keith Olbermann comments on Obama/Maliki timetable

Are you actually trying to claim that a representative of the US government, which a Senator is, is not authorized to speak to the representatives of another government about anything but the weather?

Watch the video.

I started, but I do not have 10 minutes to do so.

How exactly can a Senator violate this law? And if Obama did do so, did McCain do it also when he visited foreign officials and spoke with them.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Are you actually trying to claim that a representative of the US government, which a Senator is, is not authorized to speak to the representatives of another government about anything but the weather?

Watch the video.

I started, but I do not have 10 minutes to do so.

How exactly can a Senator violate this law? And if Obama did do so, did McCain do it also when he visited foreign officials and spoke with them.

Here's my reply I made
He has to be sent by the President. He can't do it on his own. Who makes war plans and troop movements? It sure isn't a senator.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The logan act of 1799 states

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).


Keith Olbermann of all people without knowing he did explains and shows how obama did it.
YouTube - Keith Olbermann comments on Obama/Maliki timetable

Are you actually trying to claim that a representative of the US government, which a Senator is, is not authorized to speak to the representatives of another government about anything but the weather?

Apparently that is the case. I guess he doesn't understand the entire purpose of the State Dep't.

Since you seem to think you have a grasp on the subject what part of the sate department does a Senator work in?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I didn't watch the whole video, but he certainly has a right to tell anyone who listens that he plans to pull all troops out of Iran if he is elected, just like McCain did. So I repeat, did McCain break the law when he did it?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I didn't watch the whole video, but he certainly has a right to tell anyone who listens that he plans to pull all troops out of Iran if he is elected, just like McCain did. So I repeat, did McCain break the law when he did it?

obama asked the Iraqi President to delay any agreement for troop withdraw until after the 2008 election which is a violation.

 

[maineman]

The logan act of 1799 states

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).


Keith Olbermann of all people without knowing he did explains and shows how obama did it.
YouTube - Keith Olbermann comments on Obama/Maliki timetable

rather than waste all your time arguing about whether Obama was born in the United States or whether he violated the Logan Act, why not make an attempt to constructively work with the president to try to fix the problems that confront this country?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The logan act of 1799 states

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).


Keith Olbermann of all people without knowing he did explains and shows how obama did it.
YouTube - Keith Olbermann comments on Obama/Maliki timetable

rather than waste all your time arguing about whether Obama was born in the United States or whether he violated the Logan Act, why not make an attempt to constructively work with the president to try to fix the problems that confront this country?

\Do you hate America? I think you do. Lets all go suppoort Castro, or chvas I am not work with the POS If he fails America will be saved