OMB: Top 20% pay 95% of taxes, middle class 'single digits'

[francoHFW]

I agree with the Socialist Regressives that the rich aren't paying their fair share. They are paying way too much and it's time to lower the tax rates.

OMB: Top 20% pay 95% of taxes, middle class 'single digits'

Same stupid dupes propaganda... This is not about income taxes only. If you count all taxes we basically have a flat tax system... With the top percent getting all the new wealth and the middle class and the country going to hell, super dupe.

 

[Fenton Lum]

No matter who pays the majority of taxes in reality, you will never convince that poor person that they don't pay taxes. They are convinced, that single mother on welfare that never worked a day in her life is convinced that she pays more taxes than anyone else and is being punished by never getting a tax cut.

Years ago Bush pushed through a set of tax cuts. Democrats objected that tax cuts aren’t fair because people who don’t pay taxes wouldn’t get a tax cut. I was young then. I first laughed myself silly. Then I realized there are actually living beings who found that argument persuasive. And I have not considered democrats as human beings since then.

No one in their right mind should consider "either" party as human beings, they are merely bickering factions of a ruling aristocracy doing as well as they can in an age where enslavement of labor is still outlawed.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Going back to honest money would mean no more foodstamps for Wal-Mart and Kroger. No more ethanol subsidies for archer-Daniels.

Socialism, for Wall Street and the donor/"job creator" class is fine, we're all about that in america.

I don’t think it’s fine. But give the government the power to seize income and redistribute it for the poor in schange for votes and that is where it always ends up...in the hands of the ruling elites.
When dollar hegemony ends the welfare class will starve in the streets...three generations of single mothers at a time.

Your govt leverages its power to seize income and redistribute it to the top. All day. Everyday. Via legislation. Generations of single mothers bailed out Wall Street with socialism pard. The entire planet witnessed it. Twice. Under "both" "conservative" and "liberal" administrations. Sure, the poor fucked everything up for you, go with that.

 

[jc456]

I'm middle class, and I can tell you, I want job producers to have more money to expand. I want more companies to come back to The US.
Because more competition for labor means higher wages, and more investment here at home.

The Left has always gotten it wrong. They want to punish productivity and reward sloth. No country can survive that kind of thinking for extended periods of time.

The money we spent rewarding those with little to no Initiative is $21 Trillion (The War on Poverty), or pretty close to EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT AS OUR NATIONAL DEBT!

That is NO COINCIDENCE!

Yes some people need help, but help up, not an extended hand out.

the left didn't get it wrong, they got what they wanted. they got more dependents. It is exactly what the new democrat wants. people sucking them off.

 

[DOTR]

Going back to honest money would mean no more foodstamps for Wal-Mart and Kroger. No more ethanol subsidies for archer-Daniels.

Government should not be giving any Industry Subsidies.

If you make our tax laws fair, NO ONE NEEDS Subsidies.
If you make Government Accountable, we do not need DEFICITS and NATIONAL DEBT
And if you make people accountable for their own success and failures, you do not need huge and economy crushing social safety nets.

This is the way it works. The ruling elite promises to soak the rich liberal saps believe them. Democrats take the earnings of workers , siphon off enough to pay their voters in slums a subdistance living and the rest goes into elite bank accounts. That is why Wal-Mart spends hundreds of millions on lobbying for food stamps. At one time Wal-Mart alone had over 120 lobbyists working just on pro food stamp legislation.

Walmart Could Lose $12.7 Billion in Sales Over Next Decade if Food Stamps Are Slashed

 

[jc456]

Going back to honest money would mean no more foodstamps for Wal-Mart and Kroger. No more ethanol subsidies for archer-Daniels.

Socialism, for Wall Street and the donor/"job creator" class is fine, we're all about that in america.

I don’t think it’s fine. But give the government the power to seize income and redistribute it for the poor in schange for votes and that is where it always ends up...in the hands of the ruling elites.
When dollar hegemony ends the welfare class will starve in the streets...three generations of single mothers at a time.

Your govt leverages its power to seize income and redistribute it to the top. All day. Everyday. Via legislation. Generations of single mothers bailed out Wall Street with socialism pard. The entire planet witnessed it. Twice. Under "both" "conservative" and "liberal" administrations. Sure, the poor fucked everything up for you, go with that.

how does our government seize the poor's income that they don't have? can you answer?

 

[Fenton Lum]

Going back to honest money would mean no more foodstamps for Wal-Mart and Kroger. No more ethanol subsidies for archer-Daniels.

Socialism, for Wall Street and the donor/"job creator" class is fine, we're all about that in america.

I don’t think it’s fine. But give the government the power to seize income and redistribute it for the poor in schange for votes and that is where it always ends up...in the hands of the ruling elites.
When dollar hegemony ends the welfare class will starve in the streets...three generations of single mothers at a time.

Your govt leverages its power to seize income and redistribute it to the top. All day. Everyday. Via legislation. Generations of single mothers bailed out Wall Street with socialism pard. The entire planet witnessed it. Twice. Under "both" "conservative" and "liberal" administrations. Sure, the poor fucked everything up for you, go with that.

how does our government seize the poor's income that they don't have? can you answer?

The poor have zero income? I'd love to see your data.

Meanwhile, enjoy:

Plutocracy Reborn

 

[jc456]

Ouch! - that's gonna shatter some painful delusions.

That's what delusions are for, let the people see what this tax plan does for society, let that one die as well.

No, delusions are for denying the discomfort of reality. You had your chance - let's revisit this when we acquire another 10 Trillion in debt, wages stay stagnant and economic growth hovers around 1.5%. Until then...

We're growing the debt love, even as we speak. We've been on this path for a half century now, Don will not alter it, neither would Hilary have, your system cannot "fix" this. Empire is expensive, your version of an economy requires constant growth to sustain itself. Just a matter of time before your next revolving crash and eventually the world will move away frm the petro dollar. It will get interesting.

so again, what is it you would do? come on mouth you been yelling loudly, what's your answer?

I'm not yelling at all, you just have this emotional reaction when things are questioned and you come with the typical corporate power shtick type response, "well if you can't tell me how to fix this right now then you shouldn't be talking at all".

Your system is broken and unable to respond to the needs and will of the people, primarilly because there is no longer any voice of the people in either the political or economic system. Furthermore the citizenry sat on its arse and participated in its own demise so they, as they have been taught, respond with scapegoating in an effort to inoculate themselves from culpability.

So the people turn to the aristocracy to do for them what they will not do for themselves by offering up their fellow citizens as fuel for the system.

American style capitalism is predation, it now takes military occupation of the planet to keep the economy growing, once it can no longer grow to infinity, you will gain more of an understanding. So I say, let it go the way it is, it will eat itself.

no not at all. you made a statement that the current outlook is bad. ok, so what is good? why can't you answer that. I don't believe I'm saying anything other than back up what you're talking about. so far you got goose eggs.

 

[jc456]

Going back to honest money would mean no more foodstamps for Wal-Mart and Kroger. No more ethanol subsidies for archer-Daniels.

Socialism, for Wall Street and the donor/"job creator" class is fine, we're all about that in america.

I don’t think it’s fine. But give the government the power to seize income and redistribute it for the poor in schange for votes and that is where it always ends up...in the hands of the ruling elites.
When dollar hegemony ends the welfare class will starve in the streets...three generations of single mothers at a time.

Your govt leverages its power to seize income and redistribute it to the top. All day. Everyday. Via legislation. Generations of single mothers bailed out Wall Street with socialism pard. The entire planet witnessed it. Twice. Under "both" "conservative" and "liberal" administrations. Sure, the poor fucked everything up for you, go with that.

how does our government seize the poor's income that they don't have? can you answer?

The poor have zero income? I'd love to see your data.

Meanwhile, enjoy:

Plutocracy Reborn

ok what income do they have exactly and what is taxed?

 

[DOTR]

Going back to honest money would mean no more foodstamps for Wal-Mart and Kroger. No more ethanol subsidies for archer-Daniels.

Socialism, for Wall Street and the donor/"job creator" class is fine, we're all about that in america.

I don’t think it’s fine. But give the government the power to seize income and redistribute it for the poor in schange for votes and that is where it always ends up...in the hands of the ruling elites.
When dollar hegemony ends the welfare class will starve in the streets...three generations of single mothers at a time.

Your govt leverages its power to seize income and redistribute it to the top. All day. Everyday. Via legislation. Generations of single mothers bailed out Wall Street with socialism pard. The entire planet witnessed it. Twice. Under "both" "conservative" and "liberal" administrations. Sure, the poor fucked everything up for you, go with that.

The single mothers were manufactured and their job, along with other dependents, is to provide mass votes as a veneer of legitimacy for the theft. In exchange they get a subsistence living.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Ouch! - that's gonna shatter some painful delusions.

That's what delusions are for, let the people see what this tax plan does for society, let that one die as well.

No, delusions are for denying the discomfort of reality. You had your chance - let's revisit this when we acquire another 10 Trillion in debt, wages stay stagnant and economic growth hovers around 1.5%. Until then...

We're growing the debt love, even as we speak. We've been on this path for a half century now, Don will not alter it, neither would Hilary have, your system cannot "fix" this. Empire is expensive, your version of an economy requires constant growth to sustain itself. Just a matter of time before your next revolving crash and eventually the world will move away frm the petro dollar. It will get interesting.

so again, what is it you would do? come on mouth you been yelling loudly, what's your answer?

I'm not yelling at all, you just have this emotional reaction when things are questioned and you come with the typical corporate power shtick type response, "well if you can't tell me how to fix this right now then you shouldn't be talking at all".

Your system is broken and unable to respond to the needs and will of the people, primarilly because there is no longer any voice of the people in either the political or economic system. Furthermore the citizenry sat on its arse and participated in its own demise so they, as they have been taught, respond with scapegoating in an effort to inoculate themselves from culpability.

So the people turn to the aristocracy to do for them what they will not do for themselves by offering up their fellow citizens as fuel for the system.

American style capitalism is predation, it now takes military occupation of the planet to keep the economy growing, once it can no longer grow to infinity, you will gain more of an understanding. So I say, let it go the way it is, it will eat itself.

no not at all. you made a statement that the current outlook is bad. ok, so what is good? why can't you answer that. I don't believe I'm saying anything other than back up what you're talking about. so far you got goose eggs.

I answered son, I say let it all go the way you want and watch it eat itself. You will need to actually ride it out to "get" it.

 

[skews13]

I agree with the Socialist Regressives that the rich aren't paying their fair share. They are paying way too much and it's time to lower the tax rates.

OMB: Top 20% pay 95% of taxes, middle class 'single digits'

While half of all wage earners in america drag home less than $30K per year in an economic system predicated upon mass consumption. Yes, let us redistribute more societal wealth to the aristocracy and subsidize even further the ruling class. What could go wrong.

Yep. According to the magamites, 80% of the American people are takers.

I'm sure he'll do just fine with that 20% at the polls in 2020.

 

[jc456]

No matter who pays the majority of taxes in reality, you will never convince that poor person that they don't pay taxes. They are convinced, that single mother on welfare that never worked a day in her life is convinced that she pays more taxes than anyone else and is being punished by never getting a tax cut.

and she is wrong.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Going back to honest money would mean no more foodstamps for Wal-Mart and Kroger. No more ethanol subsidies for archer-Daniels.

Socialism, for Wall Street and the donor/"job creator" class is fine, we're all about that in america.

I don’t think it’s fine. But give the government the power to seize income and redistribute it for the poor in schange for votes and that is where it always ends up...in the hands of the ruling elites.
When dollar hegemony ends the welfare class will starve in the streets...three generations of single mothers at a time.

Your govt leverages its power to seize income and redistribute it to the top. All day. Everyday. Via legislation. Generations of single mothers bailed out Wall Street with socialism pard. The entire planet witnessed it. Twice. Under "both" "conservative" and "liberal" administrations. Sure, the poor fucked everything up for you, go with that.

The single mothers were manufactured and their job, along with other dependents, is to provide mass votes as a veneer of legitimacy for the theft. In exchange they get a subsistence living.

Ah yes, those crafty leftists. Well, they're all gone and the "other" side has it all now, should be fine any minute now, let's watch, shall we?

 

[jc456]

No matter who pays the majority of taxes in reality, you will never convince that poor person that they don't pay taxes. They are convinced, that single mother on welfare that never worked a day in her life is convinced that she pays more taxes than anyone else and is being punished by never getting a tax cut.

No one in america gets away without paying taxes but those who can hire attorneys and lobbyists.

again, what tax do the poor pay? I can't wait to read this.

 

[Fenton Lum]

No matter who pays the majority of taxes in reality, you will never convince that poor person that they don't pay taxes. They are convinced, that single mother on welfare that never worked a day in her life is convinced that she pays more taxes than anyone else and is being punished by never getting a tax cut.

and she is wrong.

Fucking lazy bastards, socialism is for Wall Street banksters.

 

[DOTR]

It’s a societal problem. The new motto is “I’ll do what I want keep your Christian values off women but send me a check to feed my illegitimate children or you hate women and kids”

 

[SeaGal]

I grant we've been careless with our Republic - we got fat, happy and intellectually lazy. But I wouldn't root against us just yet.

No one asked you to, just keep transferring more societal wealth to the top and hope.

'preciate the advice. Sooo, you yourself are living in a failed state. Condolences.

 

[Fenton Lum]

No matter who pays the majority of taxes in reality, you will never convince that poor person that they don't pay taxes. They are convinced, that single mother on welfare that never worked a day in her life is convinced that she pays more taxes than anyone else and is being punished by never getting a tax cut.

No one in america gets away without paying taxes but those who can hire attorneys and lobbyists.

again, what tax do the poor pay? I can't wait to read this.

No one in america pays no taxes hon, no one, get fuckng real.

 

[Fenton Lum]

I grant we've been careless with our Republic - we got fat, happy and intellectually lazy. But I wouldn't root against us just yet.

No one asked you to, just keep transferring more societal wealth to the top and hope.

'preciate the advice. Sooo, you yourself are living in a failed state. Condolences.

Well of course I am, I'm american.