Okay why is obama a good president?

[FuelRod]

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[RDD_1210]

As flawed as it is, he did start the ball rolling with getting our healthcare system headed back in the right direction. It has a LONG way to go but just the fact that he was the president that actually started the ball rolling is huge. I give him credit for that.

The fact that his administration is handing out exemptions to the law speaks volumes. He signed into law something that he knows is flawed and as opposed to fixing it, he is letting it run its course....and let it fail before he fixes it.

Something is seriously wrong with that kind of approach.

Do you know what the waivers are about? You're better than that.

 

[Jarhead]

Jarhead, obviously....

wrong....

Never said it would be "fixed" in a year....so you have a serious reading comprehension issue.

Recessions usually last 6 months to 18 months until signs of unemployment decreasing.

This one took 2 1/2 years DESPITE the market increasing.

Enough said.

Then why did you say it was expected to end in less than 21/2 years?

I know NO ONE in the economics field who though this was a NORMAL recession.


Without the moves Obama made this would have been a depression.

Well....

maybe it is becuase I never said that?

LMAO...without the moves Obama made we would have been in a depression.

Really?

Please....explain this. You said it...now explain it.....exactly how did creating 125K government jobs with 800 billion dollars allow for the markets to increase?

 

[JRK]

Jarhead, obviously....

wrong....

Never said it would be "fixed" in a year....so you have a serious reading comprehension issue.

Recessions usually last 6 months to 18 months until signs of unemployment decreasing.

This one took 2 1/2 years DESPITE the market increasing.

Enough said.

Then why did you say it was expected to end in less than 21/2 years?

I know NO ONE in the economics field who though this was a NORMAL recession.


Without the moves Obama made this would have been a depression.

what moves did he make?

 

[Jarhead]

As flawed as it is, he did start the ball rolling with getting our healthcare system headed back in the right direction. It has a LONG way to go but just the fact that he was the president that actually started the ball rolling is huge. I give him credit for that.

The fact that his administration is handing out exemptions to the law speaks volumes. He signed into law something that he knows is flawed and as opposed to fixing it, he is letting it run its course....and let it fail before he fixes it.

Something is seriously wrong with that kind of approach.

Do you know what the waivers are about? You're better than that.

Yes...I do know....and I also know all is relative.

10,000 employees is to X profit as 100 employees is to Y profit....

It is all relative...I am not falling for that rhetoric. I know the fear my small business clients have about the HC law......

 

[RDD_1210]

The fact that his administration is handing out exemptions to the law speaks volumes. He signed into law something that he knows is flawed and as opposed to fixing it, he is letting it run its course....and let it fail before he fixes it.

Something is seriously wrong with that kind of approach.

Do you know what the waivers are about? You're better than that.

Yes...I do know....and I also know all is relative.

10,000 employees is to X profit as 100 employees is to Y profit....

It is all relative...I am not falling for that rhetoric. I know the fear my small business clients have about the HC law......

What rhetoric? Waivers were granted to allow organizations more time to update their policies to meet the standards set in this legislation. If waivers weren't granted people would face losing their insurance overnight which is obviously something that no one wants....hence waivers.

But I hope you realize that these waivers are in no way a permanent exemption from "obamacare". Many on this site think that's what these waivers are but I know you're smarter than most of your fellow cons on this site and are able to do a little more research then they do.

 

[The Rabbi]

You realize that he simply followed Bush's timetable for the Iraq withdrawal, right? If Bush had been elected to a third term the troops would still be following the same withdrawal schedule.

YOU realize that had Obama not promised to have a scheduled withdrawal as POTUS while he was on the campaign trail, Bush (nor McCain) would NEVER have come up with one, right? Bush was trying to help McCain's losing campaign any way he could. Public opinion wanted a timetable. McCain knew this and Bush knew this. Simple as that.

Sounds more like a political opinion to me.

Sounds like a fantasy to me.
Bush had a schedule worked out for withdrawl and was under great pressure to do so. Obama simply followed that schedule.
In foreign policy and the WOT Obama has largely done exactly what Bush did, even invoking the same reasoning.

 

[Jarhead]

Do you know what the waivers are about? You're better than that.

Yes...I do know....and I also know all is relative.

10,000 employees is to X profit as 100 employees is to Y profit....

It is all relative...I am not falling for that rhetoric. I know the fear my small business clients have about the HC law......

What rhetoric? Waivers were granted to allow organizations more time to update their policies to meet the standards set in this legislation. If waivers weren't granted people would face losing their insurance overnight which is obviously something that no one wants....hence waivers.

But I hope you realize that these waivers are in no way a permanent exemption from "obamacare". Many on this site think that's what these waivers are but I know you're smarter than most of your fellow cons on this site and are able to do a little more research then they do.

And those without those waivers will be forced to do the same thing (drop ionsurance) or go out of business.....like I said...it is all relative......the law is flawed and if you need to grant waivers, you need to fix it before implementing it.

Take me for example...

I have 7 full time w-2 employees in my office.

I have over 200 "temp" consultants on my w-2 payroll...and those that work a certain amount of hours per year get healthcare as my perm employees.

My take hom eprofit dureing these leaner times is well below 200K....usually about 300K.

I will not be afforded the "time" to make adjustments.....so I am forced to start making them now.....and unfdortunately, it is forcing me to DECREASE my business and it is also forcing me to DECREASE the hours of my consultants.....or I will personally go broke and need to shut down.

The Law is flawed....and it is rhetoric when they say the flaw only affects a select few "larger" employers.

 

[The Rabbi]

As flawed as it is, he did start the ball rolling with getting our healthcare system headed back in the right direction. It has a LONG way to go but just the fact that he was the president that actually started the ball rolling is huge. I give him credit for that.

If you consider the right direction to be single payer with no innovation and poor quality of care then I guess you're right.

 

[JRK]

Thru 47 responses I have seen only one serious answer from the left
I am telling you people Obama's supporters when ask why they support him or why do they think he is doing a good job cannot give you an answer

on stated that Obama kept us from creeping into the great depression
I ask how
no answer

I ask again
what makes him a good president?

 

[The Rabbi]

Thru 47 responses I have seen only one serious answer from the left
I am telling you people Obama's supporters when ask why they support him or why do they think he is doing a good job cannot give you an answer

on stated that Obama kept us from creeping into the great depression
I ask how
no answer

I ask again
what makes him a good president?

You won't get one. When I asked the same thing before the election I couldn't get a coherent answer. They like him basically because he is a clean articulate black man. That's pretty much it.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

You realize that he simply followed Bush's timetable for the Iraq withdrawal, right? If Bush had been elected to a third term the troops would still be following the same withdrawal schedule.

He realizes it, but cannot stray from the party line.

All Hail Obama!!!!!

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Thru 47 responses I have seen only one serious answer from the left
I am telling you people Obama's supporters when ask why they support him or why do they think he is doing a good job cannot give you an answer

on stated that Obama kept us from creeping into the great depression
I ask how
no answer

I ask again
what makes him a good president?

You won't get one. When I asked the same thing before the election I couldn't get a coherent answer. They like him basically because he is a clean articulate black man. That's pretty much it.

They know he has been abysmal.

Let's recap... Obamacare, $14,000,000,000,000 in debt, massive deficits well into the future, no foreign policy, 35,000,000 STILL unemployed, $5 gasoline, inflation, bailouts along with "too big too fail"" cronyism, union backroom deals.... oh, and the Chevy Volt!

Yeah.. he's a shoe-in in '12 fer shur.

 

[RDD_1210]

Thru 47 responses I have seen only one serious answer from the left
I am telling you people Obama's supporters when ask why they support him or why do they think he is doing a good job cannot give you an answer

on stated that Obama kept us from creeping into the great depression
I ask how
no answer

I ask again
what makes him a good president?

You won't get one. When I asked the same thing before the election I couldn't get a coherent answer. They like him basically because he is a clean articulate black man. That's pretty much it.

So pretty much the same reasons you hate him.

 

[Hot Wire]

For me, the verdict is still out. Did he help get our troops out of Iraq like I wanted? Yes. Unfortunately, he sent them directly to Afghanistan, which I perceive as a lost cause. He took part in shady backroom deals during the Healthcare overhaul debate, which he said he wouldn't do. He also caved to the GOP and the extreme right on said Healthcare legislation and we ended up with a watered down bill that doesn't do much for "the people". He spent money lobbing missiles into Lybia, which I feel is stupid and something we do not need to be involved in, nor can we afford. He caved to the GOP and extended the Bush era tax cuts, which I disagreed with.
However, overall, I approve of his actions/inactions in foreign policy affairs (North Korea, Iran, Syria, etc). He is wanting to spend money on Americans for a change, as opposed to spending money either bombing the shit out of, or helping to build other countries. Again, the verdict is still out for me.

Anybody who would vote for that fascist socialist pig obama a secound time is a total idiot.

 

[RDD_1210]

Yes...I do know....and I also know all is relative.

10,000 employees is to X profit as 100 employees is to Y profit....

It is all relative...I am not falling for that rhetoric. I know the fear my small business clients have about the HC law......

What rhetoric? Waivers were granted to allow organizations more time to update their policies to meet the standards set in this legislation. If waivers weren't granted people would face losing their insurance overnight which is obviously something that no one wants....hence waivers.

But I hope you realize that these waivers are in no way a permanent exemption from "obamacare". Many on this site think that's what these waivers are but I know you're smarter than most of your fellow cons on this site and are able to do a little more research then they do.

And those without those waivers will be forced to do the same thing (drop ionsurance) or go out of business.....like I said...it is all relative......the law is flawed and if you need to grant waivers, you need to fix it before implementing it.

Take me for example...

I have 7 full time w-2 employees in my office.

I have over 200 "temp" consultants on my w-2 payroll...and those that work a certain amount of hours per year get healthcare as my perm employees.

My take hom eprofit dureing these leaner times is well below 200K....usually about 300K.

I will not be afforded the "time" to make adjustments.....so I am forced to start making them now.....and unfdortunately, it is forcing me to DECREASE my business and it is also forcing me to DECREASE the hours of my consultants.....or I will personally go broke and need to shut down.

The Law is flawed....and it is rhetoric when they say the flaw only affects a select few "larger" employers.

I won't pretend to know the particulars of your business or your situation, but why can't you file for a waiver as well?

 

[sinister59]

Any one want to try and fill that bill?

simple .

he's not a republican .

look what they did , reagan's piss on you economics , George H and danny qoal ,
break , clinton repairs economy , george w , trillion dollar deficit , economy headed over the cliff as W said , plus invade a sovereign country for no reason at all .

spend billion a week on an unjust war .

Obama is not a republican and that makes him great alone . saving our country from republican economic crash , take the bully out of American foreign relations .

what more do you want ?

WHAT?

Geeeze, things are really rosie these days aren't they?
When are they going to raise the debt ceiling...or shut down government?


What a partisan post, sinister.

thank you but it just happened to be partisan .

the quest is why is Obama a good president I gave reasons .

W and you pigs got us into a unjust war that caused billions a month to run , W went to the chinese for loans , he handled one just war that cost as much and more .
W gave a no bid contract to haliburton , Oboma didn't .

rosy ? you fat ass expect rosy after less then one term ? after what repigs did ? are you serous or spoiled rotten ?
things are turning around , unless the pigs sabotaj that then he'll have gotten us closer to rosy . grow up , it takes time to fix what the republican did after all they did it for 8 yeas so ya the fact along that Obama is not a republican is enough .

 

[Hot Wire]

Because he has turned the economy that Bush created (near depression) arround

lol,Prove it moron.I can prove the fascist pig obama bankrupted this nation.You are a total idiot.
I hope you never have children!

 

[Dr.Drock]

He sounds a lot like the 20th century's greatest american MLK Jr when he gives speeches.


Wait that's not a reason? Then I got nuthin.

 

[Jarhead]

What rhetoric? Waivers were granted to allow organizations more time to update their policies to meet the standards set in this legislation. If waivers weren't granted people would face losing their insurance overnight which is obviously something that no one wants....hence waivers.

But I hope you realize that these waivers are in no way a permanent exemption from "obamacare". Many on this site think that's what these waivers are but I know you're smarter than most of your fellow cons on this site and are able to do a little more research then they do.

And those without those waivers will be forced to do the same thing (drop ionsurance) or go out of business.....like I said...it is all relative......the law is flawed and if you need to grant waivers, you need to fix it before implementing it.

Take me for example...

I have 7 full time w-2 employees in my office.

I have over 200 "temp" consultants on my w-2 payroll...and those that work a certain amount of hours per year get healthcare as my perm employees.

My take hom eprofit dureing these leaner times is well below 200K....usually about 300K.

I will not be afforded the "time" to make adjustments.....so I am forced to start making them now.....and unfdortunately, it is forcing me to DECREASE my business and it is also forcing me to DECREASE the hours of my consultants.....or I will personally go broke and need to shut down.

The Law is flawed....and it is rhetoric when they say the flaw only affects a select few "larger" employers.

I won't pretend to know the particulars of your business or your situation, but why can't you file for a waiver as well?

My industry as a whole was denied.

I am referring to my temporary staffing division of my business.

Some companies in my industry employ 10's of thousands of people.....doesnt matter. Denied.