OK RWers, Lets Say They Scrap The Bill, Start Over If You Will...

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    Then what?

    What do you do to actually IMPROVE the current system?

    And how soon do you plan or expect to do so?
     
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    Which Bill?
     
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    That's a good question.

    I hear folks on your side repeating, screaming and shouting time and time again..."Scrap the bill! Scrap the bill! Start over!"

    I guess that's the bill I'm talking about.

    *shrugs*
     
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    The Republicans have submitted two bills for approval. Do you know what happened to them? They weren't even looked at. They were dismissed. Maybe if the Democrats had tried to include both sides in all of this discussion before today we'd be a lot closer to a solution.

    Rick
     
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    Can you briefly describe the arguments in their bills?
     
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    Someone got to their TiVo'd episodes of Olbermann and Maddow late today.
     
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    Starting over is Republican code for doing nothing. They are talking about incrementalism, which is code for doing nothing.

    The president should say flat out to the Republicans, come back Monday with a list of the PARTS of the current bill you are willing to support, then we'll go from there, passing them first, 'incrementally'. I'm guessing the GOP response would be a big hummunna hummunna.
     
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    I'll do you one better, I'll post a link to the latest bill. And BTW, the bill doesn't contain "arguments" it contains their ideas of a solution.

    The following link is a summary of the points of the Republican bill.

    http://gopleader.gov/UploadedFiles/...rnative_Health_Care_plan_Updated_11-04-09.pdf

    The following link is the whole of the Republican bill.

    http://rules-republicans.house.gov/Media/PDF/RepublicanAlternative3962_9.pdf

    Rick
     
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    How do you know that they weren't looked at?
    What was in their proposals?
     
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    Let's start with focusing on a bill that gets rid of the dumb sales points of the Democrats:

    No one denied coverage for pre-exisiting conditions. Period. Should have been implemented a century ago.

    All US citizens have coverage, period. Already in place, so that one covered.

    Once that stupid sales point is dealt with:

    Try actually "reforming" health care this time, and quit selling the people out:

    Come up with a bill that costs America zero and reduces entitlement costs.

    Look at the benefit and harm of government regulation on these costs.

    Catastrophic coverage offered to 90% of the population who are healthy, and use very little of the money applied to their health insurance. This option will reduce regular medical insurance costs.

    Enact tort reform yesterday

    Form medical courts who can be experienced in medical litigation and also reducing costs.

    Open state borders to increased competition.

    Review state regulations and their benefit / cost to health care costs.

    Look at "non-profit" salaries and target them for increased taxation if necessary.

    Look at government salaries, and target them for increased taxation to return "public service" to the job.

    Look at the tax breaks universities and colleges get, and start treating them like the big businesses they are.

    Look at increasing taxation on hospital administrator salaries, and admit they are robbing the crap out of people.



    In short, get busy you corrupt bastards, and do something for our nation and people for a change.
     
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