OK, it is rare that I will cheer restrictions on 1st Amendment rights, but...

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    Larry Flint wasn't posting giant billboards showing lewd sex acts next to elementary schools...

    That is the equivalent here.
     
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    It's a right to "peaceably assemble" and nobody's "freedom of speech" is actually abridged by virtue of drawing a rational line around certain circumstances of potential volatility where peaceable assembly can still be assured a certain distance or time period apart...


    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
     
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    "Who said I was OK with them?

    Oh, that was you.

    I won't be playing with your strawman"


    No strawman intended. You used considerable space defending the legality of some of the acts I listed and never actually answered the question.
     
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    And this is an abridgement of freedom of speech.

    If you scroll up, I posted to a link with quick summaries of landmark First Amendment cases and some excerpts of the analysis. I think it gives a good case law situation of where freedom of speech stands. I found it interesting and gave me encouragement that our courts really do strongly respect the First.

    If this passes and if WBC doesn't challenge it, I strongly suspect the ACLU will.
     
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    I tend to find myself hating their message with all my heart, but defending their right to deliver it how they please. It's not cool to the families of the killed soldiers for them to protest; and it certainly doesn't seem Christian of them at all. But I personally feel like the only way society ever really rids itself of a terrible group like this is to confront it, and to allow them to take themselves out by just letting them talk.

    That said, many of our freedoms and rights come with reasonable limits. You can't drink and drive. You can own a gun, but you're not allowed to murder people with it. Limits on rights are not a bad thing, in my mind; they're a reflection on a society's ability to recognize natural and logical places to keep the train from going off the tracks, as it were. I'm not sure how I feel about this decision actually.
     
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    Physically impeding access is not speech -- anymore than money is speech. Speech is speech. It is the expression of a thought, an idea, or an opinion via the spoken or the written word.

    So those right-wing fanatics who support the judgment against these protesters need to call for a Supreme Court reversal of the Citizens United farce.
     
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    This I concur with wholeheartedly.
     
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    Who's a "right-wing fanatic"?

    And I do call for a reversal of Citizens United every chance I get.

    Here, I'll do it again:

    REVERSE CITIZENS UNITED!
     
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    Yup....it really pisses me off when they say God hates Fags....and especially when they say God wants soldiers to die!

    I'm all for free speech....but there is a limit to what someone should get away with. When it spews hate like they do, it has to be stopped. I'm really glad congress passed this....and i can't imagine Obama not signing it!
     

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