Ok 9-11 conspiracy theorist, 1 simple question, WHY?

Please provide a list of these lies......

You know he asked 1 simple question
And I have asked one simple question

and you go on a rant of name calling and slander that makes no sense to me what so ever

hell we might be on your sidehttp
I ask one simple question:
why?
what was GWB intent?

If any-one was smart enough to plan this event, load these buildings up with explosives, time it perfect with the jets
etc
etc
etc
and forget to leave a little yellow cake in Iraq?

a little yellow cake ?....you would need to show a little more than ...oh look a piece of yellow cake in this guys pocket sarg...No if you could not show a real and verifiable wmd
better to find nothing...and what harm to Bush did not finding wmds cause...did the war stop ?...was Bush charged as a war criminal ?....No....even Opera still loves him...it was all just a good laugh




The white house correspondents dinner, Where the president is invited every year to basically roast himself. DUH.
 
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cognitive dissonance -

Mental conflict that occurs when beliefs or assumptions are contradicted by new information. when confronted with challenging new information, most people seek to preserve their current understanding of the world by rejecting, explaining away, or avoiding the new information or by convincing themselves that no conflict really exists.


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You hit the nail right on the head about the mental conflict thing.That happens a lot with people in the kennedy assassination as well.

as usual.Like clockwork,the offical conspiracy theory apologists cover their ears and close their eyes everytime you post this.they dont want to look at that evidence.they just want to ask irrelevent questions and evade the evidence.Nor will they bother to take you up on your challenge if you ask them to read the book DEBUNKING THE 9/11 DEBUNKING,an answer to popular mechanics and other defenders of the official conspiracy theory.they NEVER will take you up on that challenge to read that book since they know they cant debunk it either.

All they can do is come back and tell lies saying it has been debunked and post propaganda pieces of DEB WUNKER links which that book debunks.:lol::lol: they dont get it that to not read a book someone challenges you to,well then you have lost the debate.I ALWAYS read a book someone refers me to because thats being a coward and not accepting the challenge.I guarantee you,this guy has never read that book, nor will he ever read it.The OCTA'S dont want to see the truth so they wont read it.Like all OCTA'S,he only see's what he WANTS to see.

Why would any sane person waste their money on this book?
If it had any proof in it you would already be posting it 50 times a day.

what you call proof is what the talking heads on fox tell you...until then all is unproven...lol
 
You hit the nail right on the head about the mental conflict thing.That happens a lot with people in the kennedy assassination as well.

as usual.Like clockwork,the offical conspiracy theory apologists cover their ears and close their eyes everytime you post this.they dont want to look at that evidence.they just want to ask irrelevent questions and evade the evidence.Nor will they bother to take you up on your challenge if you ask them to read the book DEBUNKING THE 9/11 DEBUNKING,an answer to popular mechanics and other defenders of the official conspiracy theory.they NEVER will take you up on that challenge to read that book since they know they cant debunk it either.

All they can do is come back and tell lies saying it has been debunked and post propaganda pieces of DEB WUNKER links which that book debunks.:lol::lol: they dont get it that to not read a book someone challenges you to,well then you have lost the debate.I ALWAYS read a book someone refers me to because thats being a coward and not accepting the challenge.I guarantee you,this guy has never read that book, nor will he ever read it.The OCTA'S dont want to see the truth so they wont read it.Like all OCTA'S,he only see's what he WANTS to see.

Why would any sane person waste their money on this book?
If it had any proof in it you would already be posting it 50 times a day.

what you call proof is what the talking heads on fox tell you...until then all is unproven...lol

Thats right, there was an investigation that you think is wrong and you haven[t proven one little part of it wrong yet.
 
ok peaple listen to yourselfs you say bush did it but then you call him stupid so how can a stupid person pull it off????

Like someone else already got through saying to you,Bush was just a puppet for it all.the OCTA'S-official conspiracy theory aplogists such as yourself,always say-Bush could never have pulled all this off,he is too stupid and too incompetent to have done so.Yes true,they are right,he IS too stupid and too incompetent to pull something off by himself.However the neocons in his administration who did pull this off are NOT.you REALLY need to read the first post on page three here and get yourself educated,and read that book i mentioned as well.if your open minded and objective,you'll realise like thousands,you have been brainwashed by the media.
 
Please provide a list of these lies......

You know he asked 1 simple question
And I have asked one simple question

and you go on a rant of name calling and slander that makes no sense to me what so ever

hell we might be on your sidehttp
I ask one simple question:
why?
what was GWB intent?

If any-one was smart enough to plan this event, load these buildings up with explosives, time it perfect with the jets
etc
etc
etc
and forget to leave a little yellow cake in Iraq?

a little yellow cake ?....you would need to show a little more than ...oh look a piece of yellow cake in this guys pocket sarg...No if you could not show a real and verifiable wmd
better to find nothing...and what harm to Bush did not finding wmds cause...did the war stop ?...was Bush charged as a war criminal ?....No....even Opera still loves him...it was all just a good laugh




charged with what?
doing the right thing?
ust weeks after Clinton bombed the daylights out of suspected hideaways for Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, he used his January 1999 State of the Union Address to warn America about both bin Laden and Saddam, mentioning the two terror kingpins almost in the same breath. "We will defend our security wherever we are threatened - as we did this summer when we struck at Osama bin Laden's network of terror," Clinton told Congress and the nation. "The bombing our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania reminds us again of the risks faced every day by those who represent America to the world." Moments later Clinton segued into the threat posed by Saddam:

"For nearly a decade, Iraq has defied its obligations to destroy its weapons of terror and the missiles to deliver them. America will continue to contain Saddam, and we will work for the day when Iraq has a government worthy of its people." But rather than launch an all out assault on what reporters now call the "dubious" assertion that Saddam and bin Laden had made common cause, the press took Clinton's ball and ran with it.

In fact, as researched and documented this week by FrontPageMagazine.com, in 1999 the national news media was replete with reports linking the Butcher of Baghdad and the man who masterminded the killing of 3,000 Americans almost two years ago.

Here are a few highlights gathered by FrontPage from the press' Saddam-bin Laden file – stories that have since conveniently disappeared down the media's memory hole:

Associated Press Worldstream

Feb. 14, 1999 Taliban leader says whereabouts of bin Laden unknown

... Analysts say bin Laden's options for asylum are limited.

Iraq was considered a possible destination because bin Laden had received an invitation from Iraqi President Saddam Hussein last month. And Somalia was a third possible destination because of its anarchy and violent anti-U.S. history .... San Jose Mercury News

SUNDAY MORNING FINAL EDITION

Feb. 14, 1999 U.S. WORRIED ABOUT IRAQI, BIN LADEN TIES TERRORIST COULD GAIN EVEN DEADLIER WEAPONS U.S. intelligence officials are worried that a burgeoning alliance between terrorist leader Osama bin Laden and Iraqi President Saddam Hussein could make the fugitive Saudi's loose-knit organization much more dangerous ... In addition, the officials said, Palestinian terrorist Abu Nidal is now in Iraq, as is a renowned Palestinian bomb designer, and both could make their expertise available to bin Laden. "It's clear the Iraqis would like to have bin Laden in Iraq," said Vincent Cannistraro, a former head of counterterrorism operations at the Central Intelligence Agency ... Saddam has even offered asylum to bin Laden, who has expressed support for Iraq.

... [in] late December, when bin Laden met a senior Iraqi intelligence official near Qandahar, Afghanistan, there has been increasing evidence that bin Laden and Iraq may have begun cooperating in planning attacks against American and British targets around the world. Bin Laden, who strikes in the name of Islam, and Saddam, one of the most secular rulers in the Arab world, have little in common except their hatred of the United States ...

More worrisome, the American officials said, are indications that there may be contacts between bin Laden's organization and Iraq's Special Security Organization (SSO), run by Saddam's son Qusay. Both the SSO and the Mukhabarat were involved in a failed 1993 plot to assassinate former President George Bush ...

"The idea that the same people who are hiding Saddam's biological weapons may be meeting with Osama bin Laden is not a happy one," said one American official.... Beacon Journal wire services

Oct. 31, 1999 BIN LADEN SPOTTED AFTER OFFER TO LEAVE DATELINE: JALALABAD, AFGHANISTAN: ... The Taliban has since made it known through official channels that the likely destination is Iraq. A Clinton administration official said bin Laden's request "falls far short" of the UN resolution that the Taliban deliver him for trial. ...

The Kansas City Star March 2, 1999 International terrorism, a conflict without boundaries By Rich Hood ... He [bin Laden] has a private fortune ranging from $250 million to $500 million and is said to be cultivating a new alliance with Iraq's Saddam Hussein, who has biological and chemical weapons bin Laden would not hesitate to use. An alliance between bin Laden and Saddam Hussein could be deadly. Both men are united in their hatred for the United States and any country friendly to the United States. ...

United Press International Nov. 3, 1999, Wednesday, BC cycle. WASHINGTON – The U.S. government has tried to prevent accused terror suspect Osama bin Laden from fleeing Afghanistan to either Iraq or Chechnya, Michael Sheehan, head of counter-terrorism at the State Department, told a Senate Foreign Relations subcommittee. ...

U.S. Newswire Dec. 23, 1999 Terrorism Expert Reveals Why Osama bin Laden has Declared War On America; Available for Comment in Light of Predicted Attacks. ... Aauthor Yossef] Bodansky also reveals the relationship between bin Laden and Saddam Hussein and how the U.S. bombing of Iraq is "strengthening the hands of militant Islamists eager to translate their rage into violence and terrorism."

National Public Radio MORNING EDITION (10:00 a.m.ET) Feb. 18, 1999 THOUGH AFGHANISTAN HAS PROVIDED OSAMA BIN LADEN WITH SANCTUARY, IT IS UNCLEAR WHERE HE IS NOW. ANCHORS: BOB EDWARDS REPORTERS: MIKE SHUSTER ... There have also been reports in recent months that bin Laden might have been considering moving his operations to Iraq. Intelligence agencies in several nations are looking into that. According to Vincent Cannistraro, a former chief of CIA counterterrorism operations, a senior Iraqi intelligence official, Farouk Hijazi(ph), sought out bin Laden in December and invited him to come to Iraq.

Mr. VINCENT CANNISTRARO (Former Chief of CIA Counterterrorism Operations): Farouk Hijazi, who was the Iraqi ambassador in Turkey ... known through sources in Afghanistan, members of Osama's entourage let it be known that the meeting had taken place.

SHUSTER: Iraq's contacts with bin Laden go back some years, to at least 1994, when, according to one U.S. government source, Hijazi met him when bin Laden lived in Sudan. According to Cannistraro, Iraq invited bin Laden to live in Baghdad to be nearer to potential targets of terrorist attack in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. There is a wide gap between bin Laden's fundamentalism and Saddam Hussein's secular dictatorship. But some experts believe bin Laden might be tempted to live in Iraq because of his reported desire to obtain chemical or biological weapons. CIA director George Tenet referred to that in recent testimony. ... Foreign news services also carried news of the now-supressed Saddam-bin Laden connection:

Agence France-Presse Feb. 17, 1999 Saddam plans to use bin Laden against Kuwait, Saudi: opposition Iraq's President Saddam Hussein plans to use alleged terrorist Osama bin Laden's network to carry out his threats against Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, an Iraqi opposition figure charged on Wednesday. "If the ... Jaber, a member of the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI), said Iraq had "offered to shelter bin Laden under the precondition that he carry out strikes on targets in neighbouring countries."

Deutsche Presse-Agentur Feb. 17, 1999, Wednesday, BC Cycle Opposition group says bin Laden in Iraq

DATELINE: Kuwait City An Iraqi opposition group claimed in a published report Wednesday that Islamic militant Osama bin Laden is in Iraq from where he plans to launch a campaign of terrorism against Baghdad's Gulf neighbours. The claim was made by Bayan Jabor, spokesman for the Teheran-based Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI). Bin Laden "recently settled in Iraq at the invitation of Saddam Hussein in exchange for directing strikes against targets in neighbouring countries," Jabor told the Kuwaiti newspaper al-Rai al- Aam ... Taleban leaders in Afghanistan, where he had been living, said they lost track of him. Media reports have speculated he sought refuge in Chechnya, Somalia, Iraq, or with a non-Taliban group in Afghanistan.

Jabor, who was interviewed in Damascus, Syria, said Iraq began extending invitations to bin Laden six months ago, shortly after the United States bombed his suspected terrorist training camps in Afghanistan after linking him with the August 7 bombings of U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and in Dar-es-Salam, Tanzania.

The United States indicted Bin Laden for the embassy bombings and has offered a five million dollar reward for information leading to his capture. Bin Laden's disappearance has coincided with stepped up threats by Iraq against neighbours Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Turkey for allowing the United States and Britain to use their air bases to carry out air patrols over two "no-fly" zones over northern and southern Iraq.

http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2003/7/16/123325
 
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some people just refuse to read a book or look at links that prove the commission was a fairy tale since the truth scares them so much and only see what they want to see.:cuckoo: can only lead the horse to the water but cant make him drink it if he is going to be stubborn and run away from the water because the water scares him.:cuckoo:
 
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some people just refuse to read a book or look at links that prove the commission was a fairy tale since the truth scares them so much and only see what they want to see.:cuckoo: can only lead the horse to the water but cant make him drink it if he is going to be stubborn and run away from the water because the water scares him.:cuckoo:

Why?
tell me why the book says why?
what was GWB intent to blow up both trade centers and the pentagon and forget a good clean WMD in Saddam's front door?
 
some people just refuse to read a book or look at links that prove the commission was a fairy tale since the truth scares them so much and only see what they want to see.:cuckoo: can only lead the horse to the water but cant make him drink it if he is going to be stubborn and run away from the water because the water scares him.:cuckoo:

Why?
tell me why the book says why?
what was GWB intent to blow up both trade centers and the pentagon and forget a good clean WMD in Saddam's front door?

He can't tell us what the book says. He can't afford to actually buy it......
 
And for the 50th time you need to be told that the people on the commission have rejected their own report, but you still have your head up your ass too far to see daylight, let alone realize or admit this.
John Farmer, Dean of Rutger Universities School of Law and former AG of New Jersey, drafted the original 9-11 report, other members agree with him. They say that the 9-11 Commission was lied to by the FBI, CIA, White house and NORAD. There is full documentary proof of this. He said "“at some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened... I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The Norad tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. This is not spin.”
The 9/11 Commission head, Thomas Kean, was the Republican governor of New Jersey. He had the following to say... “We to this day don’t know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us, it was just so far from the truth. . . "
For years the government has lied to you about the events of the 9-11 attacks, and for years you have come on here and other forums taking pride in being a pussy by not admitting what many people had at first suspected, now know without a doubt.




It's stupid fucks like you that swig the propaganda BS and pat yourself on the back while extolling your fake patriotism that are the shit stains on this country, you're a prime example of a pussy of the 1st degree, you aren't even man/women or whatever the fuck you are enough to admit you were lied to, instead you continually side with the enemies of the American people, always at the ready to misinform, and mislead, while ridiculing people who still love their country and show it by pointing out to you the lies of 9-11, what is wrong with it, and the government, and why it matters.
It's fucks like you that are the enemy and should be sent over there to see them up close and personal.
I have family and friends who went there and elsewhere, and fought in the wars for sorry fucks like you, only to be treated like shit when they were no longer of any use.
The 9-11 attacks and conspiracy was made up by the criminals who rode to power on the wave of ignorant left/right paradigm voting fools like yourself, and all you can do is tout how the 9-11 commission is right on all the major points? You would be funny if you weren't such a despicable fucking treasonous scumbag.
Only a traitor to the nation would be satisfied with a report like that, and refuse to admit how flawed and unreliable it is, as stated by the people who fucking wrote it!
The fact is you have more in common with the enemies of this country, and you prove it every time you post your boot licking bullshit.
If anyone wants to start their own research on the 9-11 attacks, or anything else I would strongly recommend steering clear of propaganda spewing trolls like you.

When the government fears the people there is liberty, but when the people fear the government, there is tyranny-Thomas Jefferson

Please provide a list of these lies......
As if we haven't gone round and round on this stuff before, look up your past posts in similar threads and you'll reacquaint yourself with this exhaustive topic.

You know he asked 1 simple question
And I have asked one simple question
I answered one of your post already, in case you missed it it was suggested to you to look for websites calling on an independent re-investigation of 9-11.

and you go on a rant of name calling and slander that makes no sense to me what so ever
I guess you would have had to been around when trolls like candycorn and I went round on this topic also...You will notice that when I respond to a topic, I wont resort to name calling or get nasty with people unless they come at me with the name calling and insults first, which if you read he/she/its response to my post, it's full of insults.
hell we might be on your side
I ask one simple question
why?
what was GWB intent?

If any-one was smart enough to plan this event, load these buildings up with explosives, time it perfect with the jets
etc
etc
etc
and forget to leave a little yellow cake in Iraq?
I doubt you'll be on my side lol, but again there is so much information on the answers to your questions, 10 years worth...all you have to do is look and research..like most of us did..I spent endless hours researching this topic from both sides, I was a fervent believer in the official story of events until I really looked into it, and waited for the government to explain things and they never did adequately.
It isn't the first time governments have lied to its dumbed downed citizens, and the criminals in charge of your country don't give a flying fuck about you so they don't care what you believe, anyways lots of 9-11 websites out there to learn from, a search of past threads on here might be of use to you also.
 
So you don't want to tell us what the writers of the 911CR claim they were lied to about?

Must not disprove any of the main points. That's about what we figured....
 
some people just refuse to read a book or look at links that prove the commission was a fairy tale since the truth scares them so much and only see what they want to see.:cuckoo: can only lead the horse to the water but cant make him drink it if he is going to be stubborn and run away from the water because the water scares him.:cuckoo:

Why?
tell me why the book says why?
what was GWB intent to blow up both trade centers and the pentagon and forget a good clean WMD in Saddam's front door?

for the HUNDRETH time,till you stop being afraid and take the time to look at the links physics exist provided and say you will read that book and then acknowledge it WAS an inside job,your questions are irrelevent and you are evading the evidence as always.next post if you dont tell me you will read the book and AGAIN its called "DEBUNKING THE DEBUNKING,an answer to popular mechanics and other defenders of the official conspiracy theory" and say you wont come back till THEN after looking at his links and then read the book,no sense in going any further.why are you so afraid to read a book and look at those links?:lol: Like Mr Jones said,there is many answers to your questions but if you wont take the time to read that book or other links of references we give to you,you wont learn them.:cuckoo: which again i got to say,I can only lead a horse to the water but if he wont drink the water,theres nothing I can do for you the horse.:cuckoo:
 
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some people just refuse to read a book or look at links that prove the commission was a fairy tale since the truth scares them so much and only see what they want to see.:cuckoo: can only lead the horse to the water but cant make him drink it if he is going to be stubborn and run away from the water because the water scares him.:cuckoo:

Why?
tell me why the book says why?
what was GWB intent to blow up both trade centers and the pentagon and forget a good clean WMD in Saddam's front door?

for the HUNDRETH time,till you stop being afraid and take the time to look at the links physics exist provided and say you will read that book and then acknowledge it WAS an inside job,your questions are irrelevent and you are evading the evidence as always.next post if you dont tell me you will read the book and AGAIN its called "DEBUNKING THE DEBUNKING,an answer to popular mechanics and other defenders of the official conspiracy theory" and say you wont come back till THEN after looking at his links and then read the book,no sense in going any further.why are you so afraid to read a book and look at those links?:lol: Like Mr Jones said,there is many answers to your questions but if you wont take the time to read that book or other links of references we give to you,you wont learn them.:cuckoo: which again i got to say,I can only lead a horse to the water but if he wont drink the water,theres nothing I can do for you the horse.:cuckoo:

Why are you so afraid to answer the questions?
 
So you don't want to tell us what the writers of the 911CR claim they were lied to about?

Must not disprove any of the main points. That's about what we figured....
You mean like the main points that that the US was attacked on 9-11? Or that 2 planes demolished 3 buildings in damn near freefall speed? Or that the pentagon was indeed attacked, and another plane did crash in PA? You hang your hat on on stuff like this and are satisfied with it, so be it it just goes to show you don't have the guts to see this whitewash thrown right in your face. Like I said in another reply to you, this has been rehashed over and over, it has become common knowledge, you are either severely behind the curve on this topic, or just willfully ignorant..I'm leaning towards the latter on this one.


David Ray Griffin

9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon - washingtonpost.com

9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon - washingtonpost.com

The 9-11 commission doesn't believe the government, why do you?
 
So you don't want to tell us what the writers of the 911CR claim they were lied to about?

Must not disprove any of the main points. That's about what we figured....
You mean like the main points that that the US was attacked on 9-11? Or that 2 planes demolished 3 buildings in damn near freefall speed? Or that the pentagon was indeed attacked, and another plane did crash in PA? You hang your hat on on stuff like this and are satisfied with it, so be it it just goes to show you don't have the guts to see this whitewash thrown right in your face. Like I said in another reply to you, this has been rehashed over and over, it has become common knowledge, you are either severely behind the curve on this topic, or just willfully ignorant..I'm leaning towards the latter on this one.


David Ray Griffin

9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon - washingtonpost.com

9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon - washingtonpost.com

The 9-11 commission doesn't believe the government, why do you?

Still can't quote any inaccuracies in the report can you? Too bad, so sad.

Did you hear? Bush won Ohio Twice. Just thought I'd remind you. He he he.
 
So you don't want to tell us what the writers of the 911CR claim they were lied to about?

Must not disprove any of the main points. That's about what we figured....
You mean like the main points that that the US was attacked on 9-11? Or that 2 planes demolished 3 buildings in damn near freefall speed? Or that the pentagon was indeed attacked, and another plane did crash in PA? You hang your hat on on stuff like this and are satisfied with it, so be it it just goes to show you don't have the guts to see this whitewash thrown right in your face. Like I said in another reply to you, this has been rehashed over and over, it has become common knowledge, you are either severely behind the curve on this topic, or just willfully ignorant..I'm leaning towards the latter on this one.


David Ray Griffin

9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon - washingtonpost.com

9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon - washingtonpost.com

The 9-11 commission doesn't believe the government, why do you?

Do you guys ever read what you post?

First off Your Dr Ray is a truther who believes that 6 of the hijackers are still alive. this has been debunked hundreds of times. That's where i quit reading his BS.

Then you provide a link that only talks about the pentagon either lying or mistaking the times that jets were scrambled or the times planes were being tracked.

None of this proves any conspiracy.

None of this proves that any main points were wrong.

None of it proves there were any controlled demolitions.

In fact none of it proves anything at all.
 
Why?
tell me why the book says why?
what was GWB intent to blow up both trade centers and the pentagon and forget a good clean WMD in Saddam's front door?

for the HUNDRETH time,till you stop being afraid and take the time to look at the links physics exist provided and say you will read that book and then acknowledge it WAS an inside job,your questions are irrelevent and you are evading the evidence as always.next post if you dont tell me you will read the book and AGAIN its called "DEBUNKING THE DEBUNKING,an answer to popular mechanics and other defenders of the official conspiracy theory" and say you wont come back till THEN after looking at his links and then read the book,no sense in going any further.why are you so afraid to read a book and look at those links?:lol: Like Mr Jones said,there is many answers to your questions but if you wont take the time to read that book or other links of references we give to you,you wont learn them.:cuckoo: which again i got to say,I can only lead a horse to the water but if he wont drink the water,theres nothing I can do for you the horse.:cuckoo:

Why are you so afraid to answer the questions?

LOL, funny accusing someone that's pointing out the obvious to you of being afraid:lol: C'mon man you act like these things weren't debated with you here numerous times :lol: You OCTAS are funny :lol:

 
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You know what? When you have some actual proof. You know, something besides conjecture and opinion. You let me know and we'll discuss it. But none of you are yet to prove anything.

And if you can't prove anything with the internet at your fingertips then 911's book certainly isn't going to help.

Personally I'm getting bored proving the same old BS is simply BS.
 
So you don't want to tell us what the writers of the 911CR claim they were lied to about?

Must not disprove any of the main points. That's about what we figured....
You mean like the main points that that the US was attacked on 9-11? Or that 2 planes demolished 3 buildings in damn near freefall speed? Or that the pentagon was indeed attacked, and another plane did crash in PA? You hang your hat on on stuff like this and are satisfied with it, so be it it just goes to show you don't have the guts to see this whitewash thrown right in your face. Like I said in another reply to you, this has been rehashed over and over, it has become common knowledge, you are either severely behind the curve on this topic, or just willfully ignorant..I'm leaning towards the latter on this one.


David Ray Griffin

9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon - washingtonpost.com

9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon - washingtonpost.com

The 9-11 commission doesn't believe the government, why do you?

Do you guys ever read what you post?

First off Your Dr Ray is a truther who believes that 6 of the hijackers are still alive. this has been debunked hundreds of times. That's where i quit reading his BS.

Then you provide a link that only talks about the pentagon either lying or mistaking the times that jets were scrambled or the times planes were being tracked.

None of this proves any conspiracy.

None of this proves that any main points were wrong.

None of it proves there were any controlled demolitions.

In fact none of it proves anything at all.
And you positively absolutely know for sure that all the hijackers are dead? If so can you prove this?

So you don't believe the members of the 9-11 commission are telling you the truth when they say it is not an accurate report? That was your original questioning, then you try to sidetrack that topic and toss in CDs lol! and try to ridicule the source by calling Dr. Griffin a "truther" as if there's something bad about that :lol:
The report is bullshit, they admitted it, get over it already :cuckoo:

"For the most part," says Hoffman, "people completely ignore contrary information" and are able to "develop elaborate rationalizations based on faulty information."

"We refer to this as 'inferred justification,'" says Hoffman. Inferred justification is a sort of backward chain of reasoning. You start with something you believe strongly (the invasion of Iraq was the right move) and work backward to find support for it (Saddam was behind 9/11). "For these voters," says Hoffman, "the sheer fact that we were engaged in war led to a post-hoc search for a justification for that war."

For an explanation of this behavior, look no further than the psychological theory of cognitive dissonance. This theory holds that when people are presented with information that contradicts preexisting beliefs, they try to relieve the cognitive tension one way or another. They process and respond to information defensively, for instance: their belief challenged by fact, they ignore the latter. They also accept and seek out confirming information but ignore, discredit the source of, or argue against contrary information, studies have shown.


But some of the loudest opposition is the result of confirmatory bias, cognitive dissonance, and other examples of mental processes that have gone off the rails.

Why We Believe Lies, Even When We Learn the Truth - Newsweek

Fuck it why bother with people like you, you ask for links, this and that then admit you don't bother to read anything because of stupid reasons. You just here for the company? You are a waste of time.
 
You mean like the main points that that the US was attacked on 9-11? Or that 2 planes demolished 3 buildings in damn near freefall speed? Or that the pentagon was indeed attacked, and another plane did crash in PA? You hang your hat on on stuff like this and are satisfied with it, so be it it just goes to show you don't have the guts to see this whitewash thrown right in your face. Like I said in another reply to you, this has been rehashed over and over, it has become common knowledge, you are either severely behind the curve on this topic, or just willfully ignorant..I'm leaning towards the latter on this one.


David Ray Griffin

9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon - washingtonpost.com

9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon - washingtonpost.com

The 9-11 commission doesn't believe the government, why do you?

Do you guys ever read what you post?

First off Your Dr Ray is a truther who believes that 6 of the hijackers are still alive. this has been debunked hundreds of times. That's where i quit reading his BS.

Then you provide a link that only talks about the pentagon either lying or mistaking the times that jets were scrambled or the times planes were being tracked.

None of this proves any conspiracy.

None of this proves that any main points were wrong.

None of it proves there were any controlled demolitions.

In fact none of it proves anything at all.
And you positively absolutely know for sure that all the hijackers are dead? If so can you prove this?

So you don't believe the members of the 9-11 commission are telling you the truth when they say it is not an accurate report? That was your original questioning, then you try to sidetrack that topic and toss in CDs lol! and try to ridicule the source by calling Dr. Griffin a "truther" as if there's something bad about that :lol:
The report is bullshit, they admitted it, get over it already :cuckoo:

"For the most part," says Hoffman, "people completely ignore contrary information" and are able to "develop elaborate rationalizations based on faulty information."

"We refer to this as 'inferred justification,'" says Hoffman. Inferred justification is a sort of backward chain of reasoning. You start with something you believe strongly (the invasion of Iraq was the right move) and work backward to find support for it (Saddam was behind 9/11). "For these voters," says Hoffman, "the sheer fact that we were engaged in war led to a post-hoc search for a justification for that war."

For an explanation of this behavior, look no further than the psychological theory of cognitive dissonance. This theory holds that when people are presented with information that contradicts preexisting beliefs, they try to relieve the cognitive tension one way or another. They process and respond to information defensively, for instance: their belief challenged by fact, they ignore the latter. They also accept and seek out confirming information but ignore, discredit the source of, or argue against contrary information, studies have shown.


But some of the loudest opposition is the result of confirmatory bias, cognitive dissonance, and other examples of mental processes that have gone off the rails.

Why We Believe Lies, Even When We Learn the Truth - Newsweek

Fuck it why bother with people like you, you ask for links, this and that then admit you don't bother to read anything because of stupid reasons. You just here for the company? You are a waste of time.

Fact is I have looked at every link and video that you fools have provided. And probably have seen some that you haven't. Yes I stop reading when the author gets caught in something that is a blatant lie. The hijackers are alive! right, and Jim Smith never lived in NYC.

You have no proof. The only investigation, while it does not answer every question, and may have some inaccuracies, is still the 911CR. And you haven't disproved a single main point that is in it.

Happy St Paddy's Day...

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You know what? When you have some actual proof. You know, something besides conjecture and opinion. You let me know and we'll discuss it. But none of you are yet to prove anything.

And if you can't prove anything with the internet at your fingertips then 911's book certainly isn't going to help.

Personally I'm getting bored proving the same old BS is simply BS.
Personally I think you are just afraid to admit the 9-11 commission is BS, and you resort to the same crap you usually do, sidetrack the topic, attack the messenger, and/or run away from answers to your own questions, etc.. It's right there in your face and you still refuse to acknowledge what is mainstream news?

The 9/11 Commission co-chairs don't believe the 9/11 Commission Report, they said it still you can't process that fact.
The 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials lied to the Commission, and considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements, yet didn't bother to tell the American people .
The co-chairs of the Commission now admit that the Commission largely operated based upon political considerations.
Chairman Thomas Kean says that the CIA intentionally impeded the 9/11 Commission's investigation and says “I’m upset that [the government] didn’t tell us the truth.”
Co-chair Hamilton says of the CIA's cover up and destruction of tapes of interrogation of people allegedly connected with 9/11:

"Did they obstruct our inquiry? The answer is clearly yes," says Lee Hamilton, who co-chaired the 9/11 Commission, in the wake of reports the CIA destroyed videotapes of interrogations of two al-Qaida suspects. "Whether that amounts to a crime, others will have to judge," adds Hamilton.
Hamilton also says "I don't believe for a minute we got everything right", that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, that the 9/11 debate should continue, and that the 9/11 Commission report was only "the first draft" of history.
So why are you incapable of seeing this and at the least getting pissed off? Good God.... Too many years of fluoridated water maybe?

George Washington's Blog: The 9/11 Commission Doesn't Believe It: Why Do You?

(CINCINNATTI, Ohio) - When 9/11 Commission Chief Counsel, John Farmer, released his book, The Ground Truth, debunking his own 9/11 commission report and was supported by Chairman Thomas Kean and commission member Senator Bob Kerrey with no dissent, the cover story of 9/11 died.
This leaves us with these inescapable facts:

* We no longer have an official answer to questions about 9/11.

* Perjured testimony and falsified information given to the original commission is a criminal act and demands a Grand Jury investigation and Special Prosecutor.

* Hundreds of respected leaders of the military, law enforcement, intelligence and scientific communities question the credibility of an investigation now proven beyond a doubt a conspiracy in itself.

* The institutions of government, including all 3 branches, Executive, Judicial and Legislative have combined in an unexplainable way in their failure to respond to circumstances that legally require action.

* The press has continued a pattern of distortion of facts, suppression of news and has engaged in a systematic campaign of deception.

Outfoxing the 9/11 Coverup - Salem-News.Com

The above was taken from a collection of articles by American Patriot Gordon Duff. He is a (REAL) Marine combat veteran and a regular contributor to Veterans Today. He specializes in political and social issues. You can see a large collection of Gordon's published articles at this link:
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