Oil discoveries dispel "Peak Oil" as myth

Even the slightest gesture on the part of the Americans at conservation in any genuine sense of the term would improve the world and reduce energy costs.

US fracking has done more to improve the world than all of the wasteful government spending Obozo threw at the issue.

Sorry, but fracking is awful.
They knew how to frack over 100 years ago, and they did not do it often because it lets too much natural gas out into the atmosphere and to contaminate the ground water.
Fracking also does not create anything, but just helps use it up faster.
 
The world is a ball hanging in space. It’s resources are finite. Eventually there will be no more. Because that’s just the way reality works. Sad that you have to explain this. It seems so obvious.
Resources are virtually infinite, especially if we start harvesting them from space.

Nope, trying to harvest from space takes way too much energy.
Makes more sense to just tunnel down more on earth.
But the only source of energy ultimately is the sun, and to capture that we have to compete with space for growing food. So things really are finite.
Fusion would be nice, but said that over 50 years ago.





You are forgetting geothermal heat
 
Even the slightest gesture on the part of the Americans at conservation in any genuine sense of the term would improve the world and reduce energy costs.

US fracking has done more to improve the world than all of the wasteful government spending Obozo threw at the issue.

Sorry, but fracking is awful.
They knew how to frack over 100 years ago, and they did not do it often because it lets too much natural gas out into the atmosphere and to contaminate the ground water.
Fracking also does not create anything, but just helps use it up faster.





The only thing you got correct is how long fracking has been around
 
Even the slightest gesture on the part of the Americans at conservation in any genuine sense of the term would improve the world and reduce energy costs.






What rock have you been hiding under? We are ALREADY doing that. We have lowered our carbon output to below 1995 levels. How about the rest of the world catch up to us.

That is not true.
If it were, then we would be in compliance with the Kyoto and Paris Accords, which is not true.
We still have the highest per capita emissions production in the world, and the second highest emissions total.
 
Even the slightest gesture on the part of the Americans at conservation in any genuine sense of the term would improve the world and reduce energy costs.






What rock have you been hiding under? We are ALREADY doing that. We have lowered our carbon output to below 1995 levels. How about the rest of the world catch up to us.

That is not true.
If it were, then we would be in compliance with the Kyoto and Paris Accords, which is not true.
We still have the highest per capita emissions production in the world, and the second highest emissions total.






It is absolutely true You need to read things other than your echo chamber sources
 
The world is a ball hanging in space. It’s resources are finite. Eventually there will be no more. Because that’s just the way reality works. Sad that you have to explain this. It seems so obvious.
Resources are virtually infinite, especially if we start harvesting them from space.

Nope, trying to harvest from space takes way too much energy.
Makes more sense to just tunnel down more on earth.
But the only source of energy ultimately is the sun, and to capture that we have to compete with space for growing food. So things really are finite.
Fusion would be nice, but said that over 50 years ago.





You are forgetting geothermal heat

Three main problems with geothermal.
One is that it is corrosive so has maintenance costs.
Two is that it produces electricity, but we then still need a way to store and transport it. Which might be hydrogen?
Three is that geothermal cools off the planet core, and when it cools enough, we all die from solar radiation no longer being shielded by the magnetosphere.
 
Even the slightest gesture on the part of the Americans at conservation in any genuine sense of the term would improve the world and reduce energy costs.






What rock have you been hiding under? We are ALREADY doing that. We have lowered our carbon output to below 1995 levels. How about the rest of the world catch up to us.

That is not true.
If it were, then we would be in compliance with the Kyoto and Paris Accords, which is not true.
We still have the highest per capita emissions production in the world, and the second highest emissions total.






It is absolutely true You need to read things other than your echo chamber sources

The US has never reduced emissions at all, ever, except small blips from high prices.

fossil-fuel-emissions-by-country.png


And China gets a pass because they have so many more people.
By capita we look even worse.

co2-emissions-per-capita-600x555.png
 
There are a lot of folks who believe "the end of oil is near" is an old stale myth but at least remember that there will be a point when this will be true; this you cannot deny.
Even the illiterate has a right to be ignorant. I know the data below will be difficult for you to understand so please ask a friend to explain it to you.

It is expected that by the year 2035, demand will reach 110.3 million barrels a day. Companies eventually will start to transition to alternative forms of energy and will be interesting to see what the future holds for renewable energy.
Which countries have the biggest oil reserves?

A 2013 study concluded that peak oil "appears probable before 2030", and that there was a "significant risk" that it would occur before 2020
Peak oil - Wikipedia

When the price of gasoline rises, people naturally buy less of it; the amount of this reduction being determined by the amount of the price increase and the consumer's elasticity of demand for gasoline. This does not necessarily mean that people will drive less (though it is likely), it may mean that consumers trade in their SUVs for smaller cars, hybrid vehicles, electric cars or cars that run on alternative fuels.
Will the World Ever Run Out of Oil?

Countries With The Largest Proven Oil Reserves
Rank Country Reserves (millions of barrels), 2017 US EIA
1 Venezuela 300,878
2 Saudi Arabia 266,455
3 Canada 169,709
4 Iran 158,400
5 Iraq 142,503
6 Kuwait 101,500
7 United Arab Emirates 97,800
8 Russia 80,000
9 Libya 48,363
10 United States 39,230
11 Nigeria 37,062
12 Kazakhstan 30,000
13 China 25,620
14 Qatar 25,244
15 Brazil 12,999
16 Algeria 12,200
17 Angola 8,273
18 Ecuador 8,273
19 Mexico 7,640
20 Azerbaijan 7,000
---------------------------
TOTAL 1,609,149 million proven barrels
The World’s Largest Oil Reserves By Country

It is expected that by the year 2035, demand will reach 110.3 million barrels a day or 40,259 a year
1609149/40259 = 40+/- years left

The Truth Will Set You Free

.,,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,……………………………

It is expected that by the year 2035, demand will reach 110.3 million barrels a day. Companies eventually will start to transition to alternative forms of energy and will be interesting to see what the future holds for renewable energy.
Which countries have the biggest oil reserves?

A 2013 study concluded that peak oil "appears probable before 2030", and that there was a "significant risk" that it would occur before 2020
Peak oil - Wikipedia

When the price of gasoline rises, people naturally buy less of it; the amount of this reduction being determined by the amount of the price increase and the consumer's elasticity of demand for gasoline. This does not necessarily mean that people will drive less (though it is likely), it may mean that consumers trade in their SUVs for smaller cars, hybrid vehicles, electric cars or cars that run on alternative fuels.
Will the World Ever Run Out of Oil?

The experts all agree the peak was around 1999, and we have less than half left now.
It takes over 100 million years to make new oil.
It has to be from an old ocean bottom that gets covered over.
We are never going to be able to harvest most of the oil that is left, because it is too deep down in the ocean and the pressures are to high.
we have 20 to 50 years worth lett, and that is it.
Switching to smaller cars won't help much because that will only be going from 20 mpg to 30 mpg.
And the SUVs that can do that switch are a minority even now.
Most people already have switched.

Much of the chart is misleading.
For example most of the oil and Canada and Venezuela is tar sands, which are expensive and high water use to steam out. They are not very accessible.






This post means you don't even have a clue what peak oil is.

Wrong.
Peak oil is when we have used more than is left, including all theoretical future discoveries.






Wrong. Peak oil is reached when the cost of oil begins an inexorable rise because production can no longer meet demand.

That can not be true, because long before reserves are exhausted to the point we can not meet production demands, we will have switched to something else, that will cause oil prices to stabilize or even go down.
Your definition assumes no one is looking ahead.
Here is the actual definition, and it has nothing to do with costs:

{...
Peak oil is the theorized point in time when the maximum rate of extraction of petroleum is reached, after which it is expected to enter terminal decline.[2] As of 2019 peak oil forecasts range from the early 2020s to the 2040s,[3] depending on economics[4] and how governments respond to global warming.[5] It is often confused with oil depletion; however, whereas depletion refers to a period of falling reserves and supply, peak oil refers to the point of maximum production. The concept of peak oil is often credited to geologist M. King Hubbert whose 1956 paper first presented a formal theory.
...}

Most people estimate we are already past peak production.
peak_oil_graph-739803.jpg
 
Even the slightest gesture on the part of the Americans at conservation in any genuine sense of the term would improve the world and reduce energy costs.

US fracking has done more to improve the world than all of the wasteful government spending Obozo threw at the issue.

Sorry, but fracking is awful.
They knew how to frack over 100 years ago, and they did not do it often because it lets too much natural gas out into the atmosphere and to contaminate the ground water.
Fracking also does not create anything, but just helps use it up faster.

Fracking also does not create anything, but just helps use it up faster.

Nothing more useless than natural gas you're not using.
 
Even the slightest gesture on the part of the Americans at conservation in any genuine sense of the term would improve the world and reduce energy costs.

US fracking has done more to improve the world than all of the wasteful government spending Obozo threw at the issue.

Sorry, but fracking is awful.
They knew how to frack over 100 years ago, and they did not do it often because it lets too much natural gas out into the atmosphere and to contaminate the ground water.
Fracking also does not create anything, but just helps use it up faster.

Fracking also does not create anything, but just helps use it up faster.

Nothing more useless than natural gas you're not using.

So you do not care when we run out?
If that how you run your household budget, just spend all your money immediately?
 
Even the slightest gesture on the part of the Americans at conservation in any genuine sense of the term would improve the world and reduce energy costs.

US fracking has done more to improve the world than all of the wasteful government spending Obozo threw at the issue.

Sorry, but fracking is awful.
They knew how to frack over 100 years ago, and they did not do it often because it lets too much natural gas out into the atmosphere and to contaminate the ground water.
Fracking also does not create anything, but just helps use it up faster.

Fracking also does not create anything, but just helps use it up faster.

Nothing more useless than natural gas you're not using.

So you do not care when we run out?
If that how you run your household budget, just spend all your money immediately?

So you do not care when we run out?

When I need cheap natural gas, I need it now.
What good is it to me still in the ground?

If that how you run your household budget, just spend all your money immediately?

Good point, cheap natural gas helps my budget.
 
The world is a ball hanging in space. It’s resources are finite. Eventually there will be no more. Because that’s just the way reality works. Sad that you have to explain this. It seems so obvious.
Resources are virtually infinite, especially if we start harvesting them from space.

Nope, trying to harvest from space takes way too much energy.
Makes more sense to just tunnel down more on earth.
But the only source of energy ultimately is the sun, and to capture that we have to compete with space for growing food. So things really are finite.
Fusion would be nice, but said that over 50 years ago.





You are forgetting geothermal heat

Three main problems with geothermal.
One is that it is corrosive so has maintenance costs.
Two is that it produces electricity, but we then still need a way to store and transport it. Which might be hydrogen?
Three is that geothermal cools off the planet core, and when it cools enough, we all die from solar radiation no longer being shielded by the magnetosphere.




Everything has maintenance costs. No, geothermal doesn't cool off the core. Geothermal power is tapped thousands of miles away from the core, and, in fact doesn't even touch the mantle.

You are way off in your understanding of how geothermal works.
 
Even the slightest gesture on the part of the Americans at conservation in any genuine sense of the term would improve the world and reduce energy costs.






What rock have you been hiding under? We are ALREADY doing that. We have lowered our carbon output to below 1995 levels. How about the rest of the world catch up to us.

That is not true.
If it were, then we would be in compliance with the Kyoto and Paris Accords, which is not true.
We still have the highest per capita emissions production in the world, and the second highest emissions total.






It is absolutely true You need to read things other than your echo chamber sources

The US has never reduced emissions at all, ever, except small blips from high prices.

fossil-fuel-emissions-by-country.png


And China gets a pass because they have so many more people.
By capita we look even worse.

co2-emissions-per-capita-600x555.png




Factually incorrect
 
There are a lot of folks who believe "the end of oil is near" is an old stale myth but at least remember that there will be a point when this will be true; this you cannot deny.
Even the illiterate has a right to be ignorant. I know the data below will be difficult for you to understand so please ask a friend to explain it to you.

It is expected that by the year 2035, demand will reach 110.3 million barrels a day. Companies eventually will start to transition to alternative forms of energy and will be interesting to see what the future holds for renewable energy.
Which countries have the biggest oil reserves?

A 2013 study concluded that peak oil "appears probable before 2030", and that there was a "significant risk" that it would occur before 2020
Peak oil - Wikipedia

When the price of gasoline rises, people naturally buy less of it; the amount of this reduction being determined by the amount of the price increase and the consumer's elasticity of demand for gasoline. This does not necessarily mean that people will drive less (though it is likely), it may mean that consumers trade in their SUVs for smaller cars, hybrid vehicles, electric cars or cars that run on alternative fuels.
Will the World Ever Run Out of Oil?

Countries With The Largest Proven Oil Reserves
Rank Country Reserves (millions of barrels), 2017 US EIA
1 Venezuela 300,878
2 Saudi Arabia 266,455
3 Canada 169,709
4 Iran 158,400
5 Iraq 142,503
6 Kuwait 101,500
7 United Arab Emirates 97,800
8 Russia 80,000
9 Libya 48,363
10 United States 39,230
11 Nigeria 37,062
12 Kazakhstan 30,000
13 China 25,620
14 Qatar 25,244
15 Brazil 12,999
16 Algeria 12,200
17 Angola 8,273
18 Ecuador 8,273
19 Mexico 7,640
20 Azerbaijan 7,000
---------------------------
TOTAL 1,609,149 million proven barrels
The World’s Largest Oil Reserves By Country

It is expected that by the year 2035, demand will reach 110.3 million barrels a day or 40,259 a year
1609149/40259 = 40+/- years left

The Truth Will Set You Free

.,,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,……………………………

It is expected that by the year 2035, demand will reach 110.3 million barrels a day. Companies eventually will start to transition to alternative forms of energy and will be interesting to see what the future holds for renewable energy.
Which countries have the biggest oil reserves?

A 2013 study concluded that peak oil "appears probable before 2030", and that there was a "significant risk" that it would occur before 2020
Peak oil - Wikipedia

When the price of gasoline rises, people naturally buy less of it; the amount of this reduction being determined by the amount of the price increase and the consumer's elasticity of demand for gasoline. This does not necessarily mean that people will drive less (though it is likely), it may mean that consumers trade in their SUVs for smaller cars, hybrid vehicles, electric cars or cars that run on alternative fuels.
Will the World Ever Run Out of Oil?

The experts all agree the peak was around 1999, and we have less than half left now.
It takes over 100 million years to make new oil.
It has to be from an old ocean bottom that gets covered over.
We are never going to be able to harvest most of the oil that is left, because it is too deep down in the ocean and the pressures are to high.
we have 20 to 50 years worth lett, and that is it.
Switching to smaller cars won't help much because that will only be going from 20 mpg to 30 mpg.
And the SUVs that can do that switch are a minority even now.
Most people already have switched.

Much of the chart is misleading.
For example most of the oil and Canada and Venezuela is tar sands, which are expensive and high water use to steam out. They are not very accessible.






This post means you don't even have a clue what peak oil is.

Wrong.
Peak oil is when we have used more than is left, including all theoretical future discoveries.






Wrong. Peak oil is reached when the cost of oil begins an inexorable rise because production can no longer meet demand.

That can not be true, because long before reserves are exhausted to the point we can not meet production demands, we will have switched to something else, that will cause oil prices to stabilize or even go down.
Your definition assumes no one is looking ahead.
Here is the actual definition, and it has nothing to do with costs:

{...
Peak oil is the theorized point in time when the maximum rate of extraction of petroleum is reached, after which it is expected to enter terminal decline.[2] As of 2019 peak oil forecasts range from the early 2020s to the 2040s,[3] depending on economics[4] and how governments respond to global warming.[5] It is often confused with oil depletion; however, whereas depletion refers to a period of falling reserves and supply, peak oil refers to the point of maximum production. The concept of peak oil is often credited to geologist M. King Hubbert whose 1956 paper first presented a formal theory.
...}

Most people estimate we are already past peak production.
peak_oil_graph-739803.jpg




Point 2 is what I said.
 
The experts all agree the peak was around 1999, and we have less than half left now.
It takes over 100 million years to make new oil.
It has to be from an old ocean bottom that gets covered over.
We are never going to be able to harvest most of the oil that is left, because it is too deep down in the ocean and the pressures are to high.
we have 20 to 50 years worth lett, and that is it.
Switching to smaller cars won't help much because that will only be going from 20 mpg to 30 mpg.
And the SUVs that can do that switch are a minority even now.
Most people already have switched.

Much of the chart is misleading.
For example most of the oil and Canada and Venezuela is tar sands, which are expensive and high water use to steam out. They are not very accessible.

That may have been then; but now people are waking up to reality;.
Life is unfolding as it should
as I see it :)-
how about you-? Rigby5
 
Even the slightest gesture on the part of the Americans at conservation in any genuine sense of the term would improve the world and reduce energy costs.

Americans don't import oil. We have all we need right here at home.
no animosity intended or implied
just stating a fact
:)-
 

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