Oh my GOSH, the warmists were wrong again!

Simple fact is, the extinction rate is 100 times, headed for 1000 times normal. * * * *

Cite your sources. Links. Not that you have a major credibility problem or anything.

Let's get the baseline. What is normal in extinctions? How the fuck do we even "know?"

Have the numbers been fucked-with like the data for global hoaxing -- err -- global warming?
 
I don't understand the mindset that thinks that change is necessarily unnatural or bad.

The earth has always had weather/temperature fluctuations. Ever heard of the Ice Age? Or the Mini-Ice-Age that took place in the dark ages?

Global warming won't wipe us out. Global cooling will.
 
I don't understand the mindset that thinks that change is necessarily unnatural or bad.

The earth has always had weather/temperature fluctuations. Ever heard of the Ice Age? Or the Mini-Ice-Age that took place in the dark ages?

Global warming won't wipe us out. Global cooling will.

I concur
 
Now that we have an accurate census, we can keep better track of the effect of warming on various Antarctic species.

Twice as many emperor penguins as thought in Antarctica, first-ever penguin count from space shows

"The methods we used are an enormous step forward in Antarctic ecology because we can conduct research safely and efficiently with little environmental impact, and determine estimates of an entire penguin population, said co-author Michelle LaRue from the University of Minnesota and funded by the U.S. National Science Foundation (NSF).

"The implications of this study are far-reaching: we now have a cost-effective way to apply our methods to other poorly-understood species in the Antarctic, to strengthen on-going field research, and to provide accurate information for international conservation efforts."

NSF manages the U.S. Antarctic Program through which it coordinates all U.S. scientific research on the southernmost continent and aboard ships in the Southern Ocean as well as related logistics support.

Co-author and BAS biologist Phil Trathan noted, "Current research suggests that emperor penguin colonies will be seriously affected by climate change. An accurate continent-wide census that can be easily repeated on a regular basis will help us monitor more accurately the impacts of future change on this iconic species."

When faced with adversity, repeat the lie often and loudly.

You mean being able to have an accurate count is a lie?
 
Simple fact is, the extinction rate is 100 times, headed for 1000 times normal. * * * *

Cite your sources. Links. Not that you have a major credibility problem or anything.

Let's get the baseline. What is normal in extinctions? How the fuck do we even "know?"

Have the numbers been fucked-with like the data for global hoaxing -- err -- global warming?


Evolution: Library: The Current Mass Extinction

The Current Mass Extinction:










Is the biosphere today on the verge of anything like the mass extinctions of the geological past? Could some equivalent of meteorite impacts or dramatic climate change be underway, as humankind's rapid destruction of natural habitats forces animals and plants out of existence?

Increasingly, researchers are doing the numbers, and saying, yes, if present trends continue, a mass extinction is very likely underway. The evidence is pieced together from details drawn from all over the world, but it adds up to a disturbing picture. This time, unlike the past, it's not a chance asteroid collision, nor a chain of climatic circumstances alone that's at fault. Instead, it is chiefly the activities of an ever-growing human population, in concert with long-term environmental change.

The background level of extinction known from the fossil record is about one species per million species per year, or between 10 and 100 species per year (counting all organisms such as insects, bacteria, and fungi, not just the large vertebrates we are most familiar with). In contrast, estimates based on the rate at which the area of tropical forests is being reduced, and their large numbers of specialized species, are that we may now be losing 27,000 species per year to extinction from those habitats alone.

The typical rate of extinction differs for different groups of organisms. Mammals, for instance, have an average species "lifespan" from origination to extinction of about 1 million years, although some species persist for as long as 10 million years. There are about 5,000 known mammalian species alive at present. Given the average species lifespan for mammals, the background extinction rate for this group would be approximately one species lost every 200 years. Of course, this is an average rate -- the actual pattern of mammalian extinctions is likely to be somewhat uneven. Some centuries might see more than one mammalian extinction, and conversely, sometimes several centuries might pass without the loss of any mammal species. Yet the past 400 years have seen 89 mammalian extinctions, almost 45 times the predicted rate, and another 169 mammal species are listed as critically endangered.

Therein lies the concern biologists have for many of today's species. While the number of actual documented extinctions may not seem that high, they know that many more species are "living dead" -- populations so critically small that they have little hope of survival. Other species are among the living dead because of their interrelationships -- for example, the loss of a pollinator can doom the plant it pollinates, and a prey species can take its predator with it into extinction. By some estimates, as much as 30 percent of the world's animals and plants could be on a path to extinction within 100 years. These losses are likely to be unevenly distributed, as some geographic areas and some groups of organisms are more vulnerable to extinction than others. Tropical rainforest species are at especially high risk, as are top carnivores, species with small geographic ranges, and marine reef species.
 
Has the Earth/'s sixth mass extinction already arrived? : Nature : Nature Publishing Group

Has the Earth’s sixth mass extinction already arrived?
Anthony D. Barnosky,
Nicholas Matzke,
Susumu Tomiya,
Guinevere O. U. Wogan,
Brian Swartz,
Tiago B. Quental,
Charles Marshall,
Jenny L. McGuire,
Emily L. Lindsey,
Kaitlin C. Maguire,
Ben Mersey
& Elizabeth A. Ferrer
Affiliations
Contributions
Corresponding author
Nature 471,51–57(03 March 2011)doi:10.1038/nature09678Published online 02 March 2011


Palaeontologists characterize mass extinctions as times when the Earth loses more than three-quarters of its species in a geologically short interval, as has happened only five times in the past 540 million years or so. Biologists now suggest that a sixth mass extinction may be under way, given the known species losses over the past few centuries and millennia. Here we review how differences between fossil and modern data and the addition of recently available palaeontological information influence our understanding of the current extinction crisis. Our results confirm that current extinction rates are higher than would be expected from the fossil record, highlighting the need for effective conservation measures.
 
I don't understand the mindset that thinks that change is necessarily unnatural or bad.

The earth has always had weather/temperature fluctuations. Ever heard of the Ice Age? Or the Mini-Ice-Age that took place in the dark ages?

Global warming won't wipe us out. Global cooling will.

Neither will wipe us out. But we are not experiancing cooling, and are experiancing a rapid warming. A warming that could make areas of this planet unlivable.
 
Simple fact is, the extinction rate is 100 times, headed for 1000 times normal. Worse, humans are so stupid, they won't notice the accelerating carbonic acid exchange, related to CO2-absorption, in water.

Hit search, 'die-offs, oceans, oysters, reefs, plankton, etc.' When you are smart enough, you will notice Mass Extinction Event 6 seems to be underway, starting with the oceanic food chain going down, then acid rain can take out enough foliage, to force more acid into water, so we never get plankton and then fish to grow, in the oceans.

We can die, from all this failure to re-green. Do hit search, 'ford, diesel, hemp,' and figure we also need switchgrass and genetically engineered plants, and we need them, now. Or else, lock and load.

It must be true 'cause I saw it on the internetz!

I'd say the naysayers also use the internet for their objection points. So exactly what is your point? Do you spend all day at the library, reading books? :eusa_whistle:
 
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Simple fact is, the extinction rate is 100 times, headed for 1000 times normal. * * * *

Cite your sources. Links. Not that you have a major credibility problem or anything.

Let's get the baseline. What is normal in extinctions? How the fuck do we even "know?"

Have the numbers been fucked-with like the data for global hoaxing -- err -- global warming?


Evolution: Library: The Current Mass Extinction

The Current Mass Extinction:










Is the biosphere today on the verge of anything like the mass extinctions of the geological past? Could some equivalent of meteorite impacts or dramatic climate change be underway, as humankind's rapid destruction of natural habitats forces animals and plants out of existence?

Increasingly, researchers are doing the numbers, and saying, yes, if present trends continue, a mass extinction is very likely underway. The evidence is pieced together from details drawn from all over the world, but it adds up to a disturbing picture. This time, unlike the past, it's not a chance asteroid collision, nor a chain of climatic circumstances alone that's at fault. Instead, it is chiefly the activities of an ever-growing human population, in concert with long-term environmental change.

The background level of extinction known from the fossil record is about one species per million species per year, or between 10 and 100 species per year (counting all organisms such as insects, bacteria, and fungi, not just the large vertebrates we are most familiar with). In contrast, estimates based on the rate at which the area of tropical forests is being reduced, and their large numbers of specialized species, are that we may now be losing 27,000 species per year to extinction from those habitats alone.

The typical rate of extinction differs for different groups of organisms. Mammals, for instance, have an average species "lifespan" from origination to extinction of about 1 million years, although some species persist for as long as 10 million years. There are about 5,000 known mammalian species alive at present. Given the average species lifespan for mammals, the background extinction rate for this group would be approximately one species lost every 200 years. Of course, this is an average rate -- the actual pattern of mammalian extinctions is likely to be somewhat uneven. Some centuries might see more than one mammalian extinction, and conversely, sometimes several centuries might pass without the loss of any mammal species. Yet the past 400 years have seen 89 mammalian extinctions, almost 45 times the predicted rate, and another 169 mammal species are listed as critically endangered.

Therein lies the concern biologists have for many of today's species. While the number of actual documented extinctions may not seem that high, they know that many more species are "living dead" -- populations so critically small that they have little hope of survival. Other species are among the living dead because of their interrelationships -- for example, the loss of a pollinator can doom the plant it pollinates, and a prey species can take its predator with it into extinction. By some estimates, as much as 30 percent of the world's animals and plants could be on a path to extinction within 100 years. These losses are likely to be unevenly distributed, as some geographic areas and some groups of organisms are more vulnerable to extinction than others. Tropical rainforest species are at especially high risk, as are top carnivores, species with small geographic ranges, and marine reef species.





How is it possible that we are in a mass extinction "event" when thousands of new species are being discovered every year? Hyperbole much?
 
I don't understand the mindset that thinks that change is necessarily unnatural or bad.

The earth has always had weather/temperature fluctuations. Ever heard of the Ice Age? Or the Mini-Ice-Age that took place in the dark ages?

Global warming won't wipe us out. Global cooling will.

Neither will wipe us out. But we are not experiancing cooling, and are experiancing a rapid warming. A warming that could make areas of this planet unlivable.






Why didn't it do it during the holocene thermal max?
 
Now that we have an accurate census, we can keep better track of the effect of warming on various Antarctic species.

Twice as many emperor penguins as thought in Antarctica, first-ever penguin count from space shows

"The methods we used are an enormous step forward in Antarctic ecology because we can conduct research safely and efficiently with little environmental impact, and determine estimates of an entire penguin population, said co-author Michelle LaRue from the University of Minnesota and funded by the U.S. National Science Foundation (NSF).

"The implications of this study are far-reaching: we now have a cost-effective way to apply our methods to other poorly-understood species in the Antarctic, to strengthen on-going field research, and to provide accurate information for international conservation efforts."

NSF manages the U.S. Antarctic Program through which it coordinates all U.S. scientific research on the southernmost continent and aboard ships in the Southern Ocean as well as related logistics support.

Co-author and BAS biologist Phil Trathan noted, "Current research suggests that emperor penguin colonies will be seriously affected by climate change. An accurate continent-wide census that can be easily repeated on a regular basis will help us monitor more accurately the impacts of future change on this iconic species."

When faced with adversity, repeat the lie often and loudly.

Well to you reality is a lie so...
 
Simple fact is, the extinction rate is 100 times, headed for 1000 times normal. Worse, humans are so stupid, they won't notice the accelerating carbonic acid exchange, related to CO2-absorption, in water.

Hit search, 'die-offs, oceans, oysters, reefs, plankton, etc.' When you are smart enough, you will notice Mass Extinction Event 6 seems to be underway, starting with the oceanic food chain going down, then acid rain can take out enough foliage, to force more acid into water, so we never get plankton and then fish to grow, in the oceans.

We can die, from all this failure to re-green. Do hit search, 'ford, diesel, hemp,' and figure we also need switchgrass and genetically engineered plants, and we need them, now. Or else, lock and load.

It must be true 'cause I saw it on the internetz!

Yeo reality is totaly on the internet to bad that you dont look cause you are brain dead
 
Simple fact is, the extinction rate is 100 times, headed for 1000 times normal. Worse, humans are so stupid, they won't notice the accelerating carbonic acid exchange, related to CO2-absorption, in water.

Hit search, 'die-offs, oceans, oysters, reefs, plankton, etc.' When you are smart enough, you will notice Mass Extinction Event 6 seems to be underway, starting with the oceanic food chain going down, then acid rain can take out enough foliage, to force more acid into water, so we never get plankton and then fish to grow, in the oceans.

We can die, from all this failure to re-green. Do hit search, 'ford, diesel, hemp,' and figure we also need switchgrass and genetically engineered plants, and we need them, now.

What facts are those...exactly? More than eighteen thousand new species have been discovered in the last 5 years alone. How exactly does that constitute a extinction? What planet do you live on exactly? Our planet seems to be thriving.
What part of 'hit search' is so difficult for you to read, understand, and perform?

You are SO stupid, you inferred discovery of species must must mean the total increased. Garbage in, garbage out just happened, Tardwally! Blow your wingpunk and when you spit out his spunk, ask him to make you his sock, so you can post something.

Eat shit and die, you goddamn runaway retard. Do your own searches, until you convince me you can read in English, do simple tasks, and come back, informed. I'll write something exceeding 'eat shit and die,' when I see you are trying to live.
 

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