Oh Boy Time For A New Beer Summit

[GHook93]

It appears this the story.

Physical/Circumstantial Facts Left Out:
(1) Martin was 6'3, 17 and a football player. Not the small 12 year little kid, that is being portrayed as. He was a big kid! Zimmerman looked up to him.
(2) Zimmerman was Hispanic not WHITE.
(3) Zimmerman had Black friends and tutored black kids on the weekend. His Black friends are doing a lot to clear his name as not a racist!
(4) Martin wasn't the angel he was portrayed as. He was just suspended for punching a bus driver. It takes a violet child to do that.
(5) Neighborhood watch was set up by the neighborhood, because of an increase in crime in the neighborhood. He wasn't a cop wannabe or a rogue sole protector.

The Facts of the Incident:
(1) Zimmerman was doing his neighborhood watch duties.
(2) He spotted a big suspicious kid.
(3) Zimmerman pursued Martin.
(4) Zimmerman in fact called 911 and went after a fleeing Martin.
(5) When the 911 operator said don't do that, Zimmerman said "OK" and walked back to his car.
(6) The altercation went on there. Where Martin was pursuing Zimmerman.
(7) EYE WITNESS'S report stated Martin punched Zimmerman, knocked him to the ground and was slamming his head against the ground. Zimmerman's nose was broken, his clothes ripped and he was bloody!
(8) The "HELP HELP" on the tape was Zimmerman and NOT Martin.
(9) Zimmerman shot Martin in self-defense.


Time for Obama to say, "I F'ed up again, come to the Whitehouse for a beer and Biden with have cranberry juice, because Joe says a lot of bullshit sober, can't imagine what a drunk Joe would say!"

 

[Zander]

Please stop making sense, you'll put Al Sharpton and Jesee Jackson out of business!

 

[Avatar4321]

Im not sure a mob is going to be placated by a beer. Especially when a young man is dead, however it happened.

 

[GHook93]

FACTS:
(1) Martin is 6'3, 17 yrs old and a football player. Hardly the tiny helpless kid the media is portraying him as. In fact the 5'8 Zimmerman had to look up to him. Martin had 7 inches on Zimmerman!
(2) People say his crime was walking while black. Really he was walking while be very tall. Regardless of what people say, his height had a lot to do with the suspicion. Tall and/or large people are always viewed more suspicious, because their physicality is more threatening. Precisely why women are see as less suspicious!
(3) The community of the incident was a MIXED community. There are white, latino and black families living in the complex!
(4) The neighborhood watch was set up (as it is in many neighborhoods) because of an increase in burgaries in the complex. Many communities have a neighborhood watch ENCOURAGED by the police, because the police can't be everywhere.
(5) The community Martin entered is a GATED COMMUNITY. So any stranger would be suspicious.
(6) Wearing a hoody doesn't make a you a thug, but it raises a reasonable suspicions regardless of what liberals say they would view a hooded stranger in their community at night in the same way!
(7) Zimmerman first response was to call 911 and he did. He did it as pursuing Martin.
(8) When the 911 operator told him not to pursue Martin, he said OK and ended pursuit and headed back to his car. At that point a pissed off Martin PURSUED Zimmerman to his car.
(9) At his car, Martin and Zimmerman had words and Martin punched Zimmerman, BREAKING HIS NOSE. Martin got on top of Zimmerman smashing his head against the CEMENT. Police reports stated, Zimmerman had a broken nose, ripped cloths. grass stains on his back (meaning he was fighting off his back) and blood gushing from his head (consistent with his getting bashed onto concrete).
(10) The EYE WITNESS stated he heard cries of help FROM ZIMMERMAN and saw Martin on top of Zimmerman. He called 911.
(11) Then Zimmerman shot Martin which, like it or not, was lawful under the 'Stand Your Ground' statute.
(12) After the guy shots other eye witnesses came to the scene and saw a crying Zimmerman holding Martin and telling them to call for an ambudance!
(13) The tapes that people keep concentrating on are ambigious to what was said. CNN bumped dissected it greatly with a lot of technology. You can't for certain hear what is said, although it does sound like fucking coon, that is HIGHLY debatable and not even close to certain!
(14) Martin was shot in the chest, which is inconsistent with the liberal them that Martin was running for his life and was shot. If that was the case, Martin would have been shot in the back. - Props goes to Sallow from pointing this out!

FACTS ON ZIMMERMAN:
(1) He had runs in with the police in the past, but so did Martin and many others of us.
(2) He is LATINO!
(3) He has black friends immediately coming to his defense, disputing the claim of racism
(4) He tutors black children
(5) He is hardly a thug the media pictures portray him as!

FACTS ON MARTIN:
(1) 6'3, 17 yrs old and a football player. Not a small kid
(2) Had run in with authority figures, in fact at the time he was on suspension from school
(3) He didn't have a criminal record and from all reports was not a thug or gangbanger.

 

[VaYank5150]

It appears this the story.

Physical/Circumstantial Facts Left Out:
(1) Martin was 6'3, 17 and a football player. Not the small 12 year little kid, that is being portrayed as. He was a big kid! Zimmerman looked up to him.
(2) Zimmerman was Hispanic not WHITE.
(3) Zimmerman had Black friends and tutored black kids on the weekend. His Black friends are doing a lot to clear his name as not a racist!
(4) Martin wasn't the angel he was portrayed as. He was just suspended for punching a bus driver. It takes a violet child to do that.
(5) Neighborhood watch was set up by the neighborhood, because of an increase in crime in the neighborhood. He wasn't a cop wannabe or a rogue sole protector.

The Facts of the Incident:
(1) Zimmerman was doing his neighborhood watch duties.
(2) He spotted a big suspicious kid.
(3) Zimmerman pursued Martin.
(4) Zimmerman in fact called 911 and went after a fleeing Martin.
(5) When the 911 operator said don't do that, Zimmerman said "OK" and walked back to his car.
(6) The altercation went on there. Where Martin was pursuing Zimmerman.
(7) EYE WITNESS'S report stated Martin punched Zimmerman, knocked him to the ground and was slamming his head against the ground. Zimmerman's nose was broken, his clothes ripped and he was bloody!
(8) The "HELP HELP" on the tape was Zimmerman and NOT Martin.
(9) Zimmerman shot Martin in self-defense.


Time for Obama to say, "I F'ed up again, come to the Whitehouse for a beer and Biden with have cranberry juice, because Joe says a lot of bullshit sober, can't imagine what a drunk Joe would say!"

I see no links to ANYTHING to back up your "facts". Why?

 

[Sallow]

Facts on Trayvon Martin:
-Shot in the chest by George Zimmerman.

Facts on George Zimmerman:
-Has yet to be arrested for killing another human being or tried.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

What should happen...

1) The President of the United States should have the self-respect of his office and simply say "no comment" on situations that do not apply to his office. But with this President - not going to happen. He carries an obvious chip on his shoulder and is not mature enough to get beyond it.
2) The media should apologize to the Zimmerman family and everyone else that were affected by their portrayal of both Zimmerman and Trayvon. Not going to happen - they will simply stop reporting on this.
3) Al Sharkton and Jessie "Deep Pockets" Jackson should apologize to the nation for their usual character assassinations. Not going to happen - they will simply wait a few months when the next incident happens and do it all over again.
4) Ass-clown Spike Lee should be arrested for endangerment and hopefully get his skinny ass sued by the elderly couple that he terrorized. Not going to happen.

 

[Warrior102]

Facts on Trayvon Martin:
-Shot in the chest by George Zimmerman.

Facts on George Zimmerman:
-Has yet to be arrested for killing another human being or tried.

Fact - I'd shoot someone in self-defense too.

Fact.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Facts on Trayvon Martin:
-Shot in the chest by George Zimmerman.

Facts on George Zimmerman:
-Has yet to be arrested for killing another human being or tried.

Facts on Sallow's opinion on the matter:
One eye closed, one ear muffled and willing to convict by media.

 

[Sallow]

Facts on Trayvon Martin:
-Shot in the chest by George Zimmerman.

Facts on George Zimmerman:
-Has yet to be arrested for killing another human being or tried.

Fact - I'd shoot someone in self-defense too.

Fact.

Fact - I'd bet you could whoop Travyn Martin and George Zimmerman combined without shooting them.

Fact.

 

[Warrior102]

Fact - I'd bet you could whoop Travyn Martin and George Zimmerman combined without shooting them.

Fact.

That's not the point.
I carry a concealed weapon precisely to be prepared when some punk wants to attempt assualt on me or my family.

I don't give a crap if the punk is 17, 27, 67, or 87.

 

[Decepticon]

you forgot some facts.

Martin was an UNARMED teenager.
Zimmerman was ARMED adult.
Martin has NO arrest record.
Zimmerman has an arrest AND CONVICTION record for resisting arrest and domestic violence.
Zimmerman was told by the police dispatcher to not follow Martin.
Zimmerman did NOT have to get out of his car and confront Martin.

Gee, all of which are FAR more relevant than the list of drivel you poasted.

 

[Jarhead]

Ghook....where are you getting these facts from?
Not doubting them......not believing them....just want to know where you got them from.

 

[Jarhead]

you forgot some facts.

Martin was an UNARMED teenager.
Zimmerman was ARMED adult.
Martin has NO arrest record.
Zimmerman has an arrest AND CONVICTION record for resisting arrest and domestic violence.
Zimmerman was told by the police dispatcher to not follow Martin.Zimmerman did NOT have to get out of his car and confront Martin.

Gee, all of which are FAR more relevant than the list of drivel you poasted.

and he DID stop following Martin at that time.

Just wanted to make sure your biased childish ass understands the facts it states.

 

[FuelRod]

you forgot some facts.

Martin was an UNARMED teenager.
Zimmerman was ARMED adult.
Martin has NO arrest record.
Zimmerman has an arrest AND CONVICTION record for resisting arrest and domestic violence.
Zimmerman was told by the police dispatcher to not follow Martin.
Zimmerman did NOT have to get out of his car and confront Martin.

Gee, all of which are FAR more relevant than the list of drivel you poasted.

9-1-1 operators are not dispatchers.

 

[GHook93]

Facts on Trayvon Martin:
-Shot in the chest by George Zimmerman.

Good I missed that one. That defeats the erroneous claim that Martin was running and Zimmerman show him (meaning he would have been shot in the back)!

Thanks Shallow, I will add it to the new facts!

Facts on George Zimmerman:
-Has yet to be arrested for killing another human being or tried.

Police don't arrest people if they believe a crime has not taken place. Is that what many minorities complain about, getting arrested when the evidence isn't conclusive enough? Why should that be different for Zimmerman?

 

[GHook93]

What should happen...

1) The President of the United States should have the self-respect of his office and simply say "no comment" on situations that do not apply to his office. But with this President - not going to happen. He carries an obvious chip on his shoulder and is not mature enough to get beyond it.
2) The media should apologize to the Zimmerman family and everyone else that were affected by their portrayal of both Zimmerman and Trayvon. Not going to happen - they will simply stop reporting on this.
3) Al Sharkton and Jessie "Deep Pockets" Jackson should apologize to the nation for their usual character assassinations. Not going to happen - they will simply wait a few months when the next incident happens and do it all over again.
4) Ass-clown Spike Lee should be arrested for endangerment and hopefully get his skinny ass sued by the elderly couple that he terrorized. Not going to happen.

However, the police investigating the situation should be reprimated for a botch job. Even though they would have lead to the same results, they should have taken Zimmerman into custody and for questioning down at the station and treated the scene as a homicide, whether they thought it was justifiable homicide or not. The lax police investigation caused a lot of the outcry!

 

[Leweman]

What should happen...

1) The President of the United States should have the self-respect of his office and simply say "no comment" on situations that do not apply to his office. But with this President - not going to happen. He carries an obvious chip on his shoulder and is not mature enough to get beyond it.
2) The media should apologize to the Zimmerman family and everyone else that were affected by their portrayal of both Zimmerman and Trayvon. Not going to happen - they will simply stop reporting on this.
3) Al Sharkton and Jessie "Deep Pockets" Jackson should apologize to the nation for their usual character assassinations. Not going to happen - they will simply wait a few months when the next incident happens and do it all over again.
4) Ass-clown Spike Lee should be arrested for endangerment and hopefully get his skinny ass sued by the elderly couple that he terrorized. Not going to happen.

However, the police investigating the situation should be reprimated for a botch job. Even though they would have lead to the same results, they should have taken Zimmerman into custody and for questioning down at the station and treated the scene as a homicide, whether they thought it was justifiable homicide or not. The lax police investigation caused a lot of the outcry!

Can't disagree with that... still don't see why such a media outcry of this case.

 

[GHook93]

Martin was an UNARMED teenager.

Doesn't matter under the statute of the law and he was less that a year removed from legal adulthood

Zimmerman was ARMED adult.

An adult that was 7 inches shorter than Martin. An adult with a broken nose and blood gushing from his head.

Martin has NO arrest record.

True, but he had troubles in school and was in fact on suspension from school at the time.
Also it's in the list

Zimmerman has an arrest AND CONVICTION record for resisting arrest and domestic violence.

Hurts his creditability, but the facts support his story!

In the list also

Zimmerman was told by the police dispatcher to not follow Martin.

And he listened to the dispatcher, cut off pursuit and headed back to his car and that is where Martin CONFRONTED Zimmerman. According to the eye witness, at his car, Martin came up to Zimmerman, they had words, then Martin struck Zimmerman (which was the blow that broke his nose) and he got on top of Zimmerman.

Lie worthy of a neg
Do liberal just not want to believe the facts or do they like to openly distort them?

Zimmerman did NOT have to get out of his car and confront Martin.

Nor does a neighbor have to call the police when his neighbors home is getting burglarized? Nor does a homeowner have to shoot an intruder? Nor does a person have to do anything! However, they formed a NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH for a reason. In order to stop the recent wave of break ins. I think that is a worthy cause.

Gee, all of which are FAR more relevant than the list of drivel you poasted.

I stated the facts as they happened you stated a distortion. Neg

 

[High_Gravity]

It appears this the story.

Physical/Circumstantial Facts Left Out:
(1) Martin was 6'3, 17 and a football player. Not the small 12 year little kid, that is being portrayed as. He was a big kid! Zimmerman looked up to him.
(2) Zimmerman was Hispanic not WHITE.
(3) Zimmerman had Black friends and tutored black kids on the weekend. His Black friends are doing a lot to clear his name as not a racist!
(4) Martin wasn't the angel he was portrayed as. He was just suspended for punching a bus driver. It takes a violet child to do that.
(5) Neighborhood watch was set up by the neighborhood, because of an increase in crime in the neighborhood. He wasn't a cop wannabe or a rogue sole protector.

The Facts of the Incident:
(1) Zimmerman was doing his neighborhood watch duties.
(2) He spotted a big suspicious kid.
(3) Zimmerman pursued Martin.
(4) Zimmerman in fact called 911 and went after a fleeing Martin.
(5) When the 911 operator said don't do that, Zimmerman said "OK" and walked back to his car.
(6) The altercation went on there. Where Martin was pursuing Zimmerman.
(7) EYE WITNESS'S report stated Martin punched Zimmerman, knocked him to the ground and was slamming his head against the ground. Zimmerman's nose was broken, his clothes ripped and he was bloody!
(8) The "HELP HELP" on the tape was Zimmerman and NOT Martin.
(9) Zimmerman shot Martin in self-defense.


Time for Obama to say, "I F'ed up again, come to the Whitehouse for a beer and Biden with have cranberry juice, because Joe says a lot of bullshit sober, can't imagine what a drunk Joe would say!"

Man the title of this thread is misleading, I came in here looking to discuss the different types of beers and how they taste.