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Trouble makerYou want me to prove something didn't happen? Let's see some proof from the Metropolitan Correction Center that Epstein hanged himself instead.Ok, provide me evidence, court worthy evidence and I admit he didn't do it to himself. If you have no evidence, then all you're playing is a "what if" game.
They've offered none so far! A dead body with a broken bone in the neck is not proof of anything. Strangulation is a good a bet as suicide. Too bad there were no cameras recording or deputies awake to prove otherwise.
In fact strangulation is a better bet when Epstein could put so many other big powerful men away by dropping some names.
And, again, Epstein was looking forward to meeting with his lawyer on Sunday (he was murdered on Saturday) because his team was confident he could get his charges dropped due to double jeopardy laws.
Sleeping absentee guards, cameras that weren't working, a man who supposedly killed himself was taken OFF suicide watch. A suicide victim who was reasonably optimistic about his future.Well okay then, you - of course - are right and the people investigating the case, and people who have worked in the field, don't know what the hell we are talking about.
Enjoy your cover up.Enjoy your conspiracy theory.
Same here, Andy Griffith. Same here.When you get some real evidence let me know.
He probably worked in a two bit county jail in Missouri, or somewhere. Suddenly he's a penologist of great accomplishment.Trouble maker
He probably worked in a two bit county jail in Missouri, or somewhere. Suddenly he's a penologist of great accomplishment.Trouble maker
This is some good info here..sorry if it contradicts some people's fantasies about conspiracies and such:
Jeffrey Epstein Death: 2 Guards Slept Through Checks and Falsified Records
"The two staff members who were guarding the jail unit where Jeffrey Epstein apparently killed himself fell asleep and failed to check on him for about three hours, then falsified records to cover up their mistake, according to several law enforcement and prison officials with knowledge of the matter.
Prison staff discovered Mr. Epstein, 66, dead in his cell at the Metropolitan Correctional Center at 6:30 a.m. on Saturday, officials said. He had apparently hanged himself with a bedsheet, likely fastening the sheet to a top bunk and pitching himself forward, law enforcement and prison officials said."
You only have to have a modicum of brains and common sense to see a con job when it's right under your nose.And you've probably worked in none yet have become the world's great criminal investigator.
They do.You only have to have a modicum of brains and common sense to see a con job when it's right under your nose.And you've probably worked in none yet have become the world's great criminal investigator.
If Barr isn't blowing smoke out of his ass people may soon be singing. Epstein death shifts federal focus to possible conspirators
Say, you're a great authority (so you say). Why won't prison guards cooperate with investigators in this matter?
What could make them so reluctant to offer up information? Why, it's almost as if they have something to hide.
MCC New York houses high profile inmates all the time. Hell, El Chapo was there..do you not think that he was spreading some money to get out?This is some good info here..sorry if it contradicts some people's fantasies about conspiracies and such:
Jeffrey Epstein Death: 2 Guards Slept Through Checks and Falsified Records
"The two staff members who were guarding the jail unit where Jeffrey Epstein apparently killed himself fell asleep and failed to check on him for about three hours, then falsified records to cover up their mistake, according to several law enforcement and prison officials with knowledge of the matter.
Prison staff discovered Mr. Epstein, 66, dead in his cell at the Metropolitan Correctional Center at 6:30 a.m. on Saturday, officials said. He had apparently hanged himself with a bedsheet, likely fastening the sheet to a top bunk and pitching himself forward, law enforcement and prison officials said."
This does not discount any conspiracy theories
Even if I would like for it to do so. I enjoy debunking conspiracy theories more than most. But this does not cut it. If anything it strengthens some theories.
Having worked in a prison for many years myself this detail is very doubtful. Yes some cos do take naps or fall asleep on third but they are the exception
They are even more of an exception when it is a high profile or famous inmate
Even the laziest shirker would know better than to cop some zzss with the most famous inmate in the nation on their block
If you want to know more about what happened wait a year or two and see what becomes of those cos .
I would not be surprised if they wound up with huge payout
The guards could have been drugged.As for prisoners with money on their books. That can be for several reasons, but the "normal" one is payment of debts owed. The owing prisoner contacts family and has the money sent to the owed prisoner's family, who then put it on their books.
Oh and when I was working as an officer in a state prison I could get someone killed for a pizza if I wanted to.
These officers may both m,ay have not been snoozing, one could of been just screwing off. Cell house shifts with inmates locked down get real boring.
You are under the spell of confirmation bias. Epstein could see the guards. Of course he waited for the opening. That is in no way "coincidence".So many perfect coincidences
And all the inmates, too? They have eyeballs.The guards could have been drugged.
El Chapo is one other high profile inmateMCC New York houses high profile inmates all the time. Hell, El Chapo was there..do you not think that he was spreading some money to get out?This is some good info here..sorry if it contradicts some people's fantasies about conspiracies and such:
Jeffrey Epstein Death: 2 Guards Slept Through Checks and Falsified Records
"The two staff members who were guarding the jail unit where Jeffrey Epstein apparently killed himself fell asleep and failed to check on him for about three hours, then falsified records to cover up their mistake, according to several law enforcement and prison officials with knowledge of the matter.
Prison staff discovered Mr. Epstein, 66, dead in his cell at the Metropolitan Correctional Center at 6:30 a.m. on Saturday, officials said. He had apparently hanged himself with a bedsheet, likely fastening the sheet to a top bunk and pitching himself forward, law enforcement and prison officials said."
This does not discount any conspiracy theories
Even if I would like for it to do so. I enjoy debunking conspiracy theories more than most. But this does not cut it. If anything it strengthens some theories.
Having worked in a prison for many years myself this detail is very doubtful. Yes some cos do take naps or fall asleep on third but they are the exception
They are even more of an exception when it is a high profile or famous inmate
Even the laziest shirker would know better than to cop some zzss with the most famous inmate in the nation on their block
If you want to know more about what happened wait a year or two and see what becomes of those cos .
I would not be surprised if they wound up with huge payout
I think in a year or two..these co's will be unemployed..or flippin' burgers.
Did you think these were open cages?And all the inmates, too? They have eyeballs.The guards could have been drugged.
Do you think there are not windows?Did you think these were open cages?
You only have to have a modicum of brains and common sense to see a con job when it's right under your nose.And you've probably worked in none yet have become the world's great criminal investigator.
If Barr isn't blowing smoke out of his ass people may soon be singing. Epstein death shifts federal focus to possible conspirators
Say, you're a great authority (so you say). Why won't prison guards cooperate with investigators in this matter?
What could make them so reluctant to offer up information? Why, it's almost as if they have something to hide.
Rank incompetence OR possibly guards being paid to ignore the murder of Jeffery Epstein. We really won't know until guards start talking and the matter is investigated.They do.
Rank incompetence! Probably systemic. The Union is defending a couple..maybe more. Apparently they are not liking the heat!.
And right back at you..i know just as much as you do...nothing.Rank incompetence OR possibly guards being paid to ignore the murder of Jeffery Epstein. We really won't know until guards start talking and the matter is investigated.They do.
Rank incompetence! Probably systemic. The Union is defending a couple..maybe more. Apparently they are not liking the heat!.
But please don't pretend you know what's going on at MCC. You have no idea. Only wishes and hopes that your beloved politicians are spared the details of their associations with Epstein.
