Official Usmb Mafia Game #5: A Game Of Fire And Ice (day 6)

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    I know a lot of people say neighborhoods are anti-town and in a way they are because it encourages people to talk away from the GT. But from what I have seen of them in both game 3 and game 5 is they are not really good for scum. It is much easier to examine what they say in a smaller setting. I hated the neighborhood in game 3 but loved it here. Avi was wondering why I didn't speak in twilight in game 3-well damn Avi, you know after a lynch occurs, scum is likely to relax and say something stupid. I won't avoid it again in the future, regardless. But avoiding twilight and not commenting on the NK or being too dramatic about the NK are both scumtells.
     
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    There are no magical scum tells that are universal other than just trying to find a pattern of play. It depends on the player usually, and if most of the town cannot see their content, then it makes it much harder to assess. Had Gath not busted the game to smithereens, I dare say that you wouldn't have liked the neighborhood so much in this game when town would have been on a mylo pretty quick. Either way, scum should not have day talk.
     
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    I agree, giving scum daytalk is too much of an advantage but something needed to offset they couldn't kill each other and you are right that scumtells a lot of the time, depend on the player. A good enough player can change their game enough to fool people. And yeah, it's true that neighborhoods hide convos. And it's also true that Gath should not have given up but he was going to be lynched regardless so I think his deal to take out ice was not a bad idea. It would have been a bad idea to take him up on it. But for a newbie, he did well. All the scum played a good game. Town just played a better one this time. :biggrin:
     
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    No town really didn't play a better game. The divided scum dynamic just collapsed when 2 players decided if they couldn't win then neither could the other scum team. Town found 1 scum. Scum killed 3 scum.
     
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    We'll just have to agree to disagree on which side played better. The end result is the same. And like I said, everyone played well. It was a fun game. Still............................town kicked scum's ass. :p
     
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    Nah, Avatar played to his wincon, he outed you, but people did not believe him since he was scum. They believed you had a PR thus you not being flash lynched. Then it was your lies ( claiming to seeing two people actions on one night, where you thought the keys was a day action) which got you caught, you were up for lynching, and then Gath was under a lot of scrutiny and then made his scumslip ( stating he knew the keys had not been used, among other issues) and he was up for lynching before you. He just confirmed what was already known.

    I suppose if it makes you feel better you can state scum played better, go for it. It does not mean it's true. :)
     
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    I didn't say scum played better. We played awful. That is why town won, not because town played better than it has been.
     
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    Town played a better game than scum since you said scum played awful. In order for town not to have played better, we'd have to be even worse than awful according to you words that scum played awful. Scum only caught one scum Avi-that was because he was on the other team. You were caught later even after Avi fingered you. Gath gave up because he was caught and about to be lynched and wanted us to try to use him to get ice. Town definitely caught House all on our own.

    IMO-scum did not play awful. IMO, everyone played a very good game. I think this group as a whole plays better every time we play. This is just my opinion which I stand by. EVERYONE did very, very well.
     
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    The fact that a day zero newbscum was the last to die should say plenty about the quality of the play all around,imo.
     
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    Nope, you played very well for a newbie. Gath did too for newbscum. And despite the fact that some don't want to give town credit, I'd say everyone did a damn good job of scumhunting. I just can't point to anyone that did a bad job this game. Each game shows better play, IMO.

    It saddens me that some don't even want to acknowledge good town play here and want to cheapen town's first win in a big game like this.

    Oh well.....................................................I know better.
     
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