Official declaration of change of policy

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    James T. Beukema hereby withdraws his earlier support and stated arguments in relation to the matter of 'abortion' and 'the right to life' and adopts the following position.

    I, Reverend James Teunis Beukema, hereby support legally allowing (despite personal abhorrence) the legal right to 'abortion' of a developing human life up until such time as brain activity becomes evident and can be discerned, currently estimated at no later than eight weeks past conception (six weeks after implantation and pregnancy).

    A brief discussion of the relevant arguments leading to this conclusion can be found here
     
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    You are learning ... this is a great sign. ;) Welcome to the club.
     
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    Unlike you, KK, my positions are based in logic and can be supported with facts and reason
     
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    You still have some flaws, pure logic and fact does not answer all problems or questions, but worst, logic and fact offer no questions. But you are learning, that is a start. With age comes wisdom, and wisdom is not logical.
     
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    Whenever we need someone stupid to act like a sage for our amusement, we can always count on you, KK :lol:
     
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    I am guessing you have never spoken to a sage in real life. But keep up the progression forward child, you will some day see the truth as long as you keep learning and learn to open your mind, as you have done on the one issue. You have actually taken the first step, whether I agree with your position (or your initial position) is of no importance, what is of importance is that you took that step, and in the process earned a touch of respect, and perhaps a hint of honor.

    Though you are still immature, tossing such an attempt at an insult when you are being praised. Maybe someday you will also learn, you can't insult a true sage, for we find everything to be rather ... humorous.
     
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    KK, the moment you said


    you proved you have no idea what you're talking about
     
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    Surely you jest, and fair warning, you are still modifying quotes a little too much, but this time you didn't take it out of context. Which is one good example where logic fails completely. Logic has no context, logic just is, facts can have context, but not all do. Context is a completely abstract concept, something that requires an ability which only living beings have, and not all living beings have it either.

    Tell me, what question, any one, was granted humans because of only logic?
     
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    Why do the planets revolve around the sun? What force is there? How is the force brought about? Why does electricity make lights grow?

    We only know of quanta because of logic
    M-Theory is the result of logic
    All scientific progress is the result of logic
     
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