Offical Impeachment Thread

[Faun]

See Britpat9643 post, "The President doesn't require "authorization' to pursue his agenda, moron," for how the likely trial could come to a successful ouster of Donald Trump from the Office of President of the United States.

The President has no arbitrary and capricious authority to pursue anyone, any policy, any jurisdiction, dispute or other matter but is bound to Faithfully Executive the Laws of the United States.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Red-Hatter salutes now raising the arm, even at the bars of America!

There was nothing arbitrary or capricious about it. Biden is a corrupt politicians who took bribes from a foreign government.

Prove it. What did Biden get our of it.

 

[Faun]

Pressuring a change in government staffing is not an investigation. The President is not authorized to request of Kiev an investigation into a treaty-covered matter. As for the President's attorney: The same applies. The relevant clause is cited in the OP.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!
(Red Hatter Banzai Attack Is Showing!)

The President doesn't require "authorization" to pursue his agenda, moron.

He does have to abide by the prerequisites of the treaty the yahoo right is claiming allows Trump to ask Ukraine to investigate Biden.

Which prerequisite is he violating?

The request had to be in writing and it had to be for an ongoing investigation of which Trump had to name the person(s) investigating.

 

[mascale]

No such apparent request appears, in Faun recent post. It had to be from the Attorney General, and no such record appears from the US-baby-genitalia-mutilating-cabal on the phone call.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Time for many Red-Hat pursuits now approaching!)

 

[bripat9643]

See Britpat9643 post, "The President doesn't require "authorization' to pursue his agenda, moron," for how the likely trial could come to a successful ouster of Donald Trump from the Office of President of the United States.

The President has no arbitrary and capricious authority to pursue anyone, any policy, any jurisdiction, dispute or other matter but is bound to Faithfully Executive the Laws of the United States.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Red-Hatter salutes now raising the arm, even at the bars of America!

There was nothing arbitrary or capricious about it. Biden is a corrupt politicians who took bribes from a foreign government.

Prove it. What did Biden get our of it.

He got an $83,000/month job for his son.

 

[bripat9643]

Pressuring a change in government staffing is not an investigation. The President is not authorized to request of Kiev an investigation into a treaty-covered matter. As for the President's attorney: The same applies. The relevant clause is cited in the OP.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!
(Red Hatter Banzai Attack Is Showing!)

The President doesn't require "authorization" to pursue his agenda, moron.

He does have to abide by the prerequisites of the treaty the yahoo right is claiming allows Trump to ask Ukraine to investigate Biden.

Which prerequisite is he violating?

The request had to be in writing and it had to be for an ongoing investigation of which Trump had to name the person(s) investigating.

What request?

 

[skews13]

The Law Enforcement Assistance and Cooperation Treaty with Ukraine specifies that the designated officials of the two nations are the US Attorney General and the Ukraine Minister of Justice, (3.1.d.). The treaty binds those two offices--and so the usual rules in both nations, regarding those offices: In the Treaty. So from the New York Times, about the phone--Barbarous Anti-American sentiment is apparently what the White House has documented.

"A Justice Department official said that Mr. Barr had no knowledge of the call until the director of national intelligence and the intelligence community’s inspector general sent the department the whistle-blower’s criminal referral late last month, and that Mr. Trump has not spoken with the attorney general “about having Ukraine investigate anything relating to former Vice President Biden or his son.”

Political interference is not considered cause, stated in the Treaty provisions.

https://www.congress.gov/106/cdoc/tdoc16/CDOC-106tdoc16.pdf

Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!
(Red-Hatter waving takes on a new appearance. "Banzai! Surprise!" Attack on the USA apparently is supported--or on Ukraine, or Crimea!)

1. So-called whistleblowers don't hand down indictments.
2. "Cause" for what?
3. What difference does it make if Barr knew about the call?

Let me summarize this on intellectual terms at your level.

 

[bripat9643]

The Law Enforcement Assistance and Cooperation Treaty with Ukraine specifies that the designated officials of the two nations are the US Attorney General and the Ukraine Minister of Justice, (3.1.d.). The treaty binds those two offices--and so the usual rules in both nations, regarding those offices: In the Treaty. So from the New York Times, about the phone--Barbarous Anti-American sentiment is apparently what the White House has documented.

"A Justice Department official said that Mr. Barr had no knowledge of the call until the director of national intelligence and the intelligence community’s inspector general sent the department the whistle-blower’s criminal referral late last month, and that Mr. Trump has not spoken with the attorney general “about having Ukraine investigate anything relating to former Vice President Biden or his son.”

Political interference is not considered cause, stated in the Treaty provisions.

https://www.congress.gov/106/cdoc/tdoc16/CDOC-106tdoc16.pdf

Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!
(Red-Hatter waving takes on a new appearance. "Banzai! Surprise!" Attack on the USA apparently is supported--or on Ukraine, or Crimea!)

1. So-called whistleblowers don't hand down indictments.
2. "Cause" for what?
3. What difference does it make if Barr knew about the call?

Let me summarize this on intellectual terms at your level.

A lie in cartoon form is still a lie.

It's sad that you need to have everything explained to you in that form.

 

[mascale]

High Crimes and Acts of War appear to be forefront.

US Message Board survives.

Trump likely goes to trial, and even gets convicted.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Treaties exist, even among Lands of Many Nations: As likely Trump Administration, goods, and murderers of White US Nationals already know!)

 

[Faun]

See Britpat9643 post, "The President doesn't require "authorization' to pursue his agenda, moron," for how the likely trial could come to a successful ouster of Donald Trump from the Office of President of the United States.

The President has no arbitrary and capricious authority to pursue anyone, any policy, any jurisdiction, dispute or other matter but is bound to Faithfully Executive the Laws of the United States.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Red-Hatter salutes now raising the arm, even at the bars of America!

There was nothing arbitrary or capricious about it. Biden is a corrupt politicians who took bribes from a foreign government.

Prove it. What did Biden get our of it.

He got an $83,000/month job for his son.

So you say, but cannot prove. Not to mention, but I will anyway.... Hunter got that job years before Shokin was fired, so that also had nothing to do with it.

 

[Faun]

Pressuring a change in government staffing is not an investigation. The President is not authorized to request of Kiev an investigation into a treaty-covered matter. As for the President's attorney: The same applies. The relevant clause is cited in the OP.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!
(Red Hatter Banzai Attack Is Showing!)

The President doesn't require "authorization" to pursue his agenda, moron.

He does have to abide by the prerequisites of the treaty the yahoo right is claiming allows Trump to ask Ukraine to investigate Biden.

Which prerequisite is he violating?

The request had to be in writing and it had to be for an ongoing investigation of which Trump had to name the person(s) investigating.

What request?

LOL

Dayum, you're such a fucking moron.

 

[mascale]

The trial now proceeds, maybe even funded from outside sources!

End of Trump White House, and the goons corroborating the illegal phone call: Now all public information.

" Crow, James Crow: Shaken Not Stirred!"
(Not much more to say!")

 

[basquebromance]

Trump cant collude with anyone, my friends. i dont mean he refuses to collude. i mean he physically literally cant do it. he cant collude with his own campaign team to order a cheeseburger even!

 

[Doc7505]

The readable treaty is in the link provided. The catalog link is further provided. No further proceedings in Kiev are noted other than the document referred by the President to the Senate--in the link provided.

Then there is Faun poster: A clear failure at reading, research, or archival reporting

Then Doc7505 poster is in serious deficiency, if not so serious the legal problem coming soon to the Goon Squad in the White House. The President is specifically not authorized in treaty to make the request in the phone call. The US Attorney General and the Urkaine Minister of Justice are authorized--and between nations, recognizing law and procedure in each nation.

Seems like it is coming to an anniversary of the Red-Hatter-Banzai-Surprise-Attack-America: Goon Squads showing their contempt of the Attorney General's office, of the United States.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!
(Red-Hat Waving: Looks like goons, acts like goons.. . . .(?)!)

~~~~~~
Treaty with Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters
Text - Treaty Document 106-16 - Treaty with Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters
Formal Title Treaty Between the United States of America and Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters with Annex, signed at Kiev on July 22, 1998, and with an Exchange of Notes signed on September 30, 1999, which provides for its provisional application. Date Received from President

The Treaty is one of a series of modern mutual legal assistance treaties being negotiated by the United States in order to counter criminal activities more effectively. The Treaty should be an effective tool to assist in the prosecution
of a wide variety of crimes, including drug trafficking offenses. The Treaty is self-executing. It provides for a broad range of cooperation in criminal matters. Mutual assistance available under the Treaty includes: taking of testimony or statements of persons; providing documents, records, and
articles of evidence; serving documents; locating or identifying persons; transferring persons in custody for testimony or other purposes; executing requests for searches and seizures; assisting in proceedings related to restraint, confiscation, forfeiture of assets, restitution, and collection of fines; and any other form of assistance not prohibited by the laws of the requested state.​

 

[mascale]

The Attorney General, and the Kiev Justice Minister: Are prominent in the proceedings, not the baby-genitalia, mutilating Donald Trump family, offspring and adherents of the atrocity perpetrators.

Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
("Trump Toast" now maybe holiday treat!)

 

[SAYIT]

The Law Enforcement Assistance and Cooperation Treaty with Ukraine specifies that the designated officials of the two nations are the US Attorney General and the Ukraine Minister of Justice, (3.1.d.). The treaty binds those two offices--and so the usual rules in both nations, regarding those offices: In the Treaty. So from the New York Times, about the phone--Barbarous Anti-American sentiment is apparently what the White House has documented.

"A Justice Department official said that Mr. Barr had no knowledge of the call until the director of national intelligence and the intelligence community’s inspector general sent the department the whistle-blower’s criminal referral late last month, and that Mr. Trump has not spoken with the attorney general “about having Ukraine investigate anything relating to former Vice President Biden or his son.”

Political interference is not considered cause, stated in the Treaty provisions.

https://www.congress.gov/106/cdoc/tdoc16/CDOC-106tdoc16.pdf

Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!
(Red-Hatter waving takes on a new appearance. "Banzai! Surprise!" Attack on the USA apparently is supported--or on Ukraine, or Crimea!)

Yeah ... I'm sure you gave him this time.

 

[bripat9643]

See Britpat9643 post, "The President doesn't require "authorization' to pursue his agenda, moron," for how the likely trial could come to a successful ouster of Donald Trump from the Office of President of the United States.

The President has no arbitrary and capricious authority to pursue anyone, any policy, any jurisdiction, dispute or other matter but is bound to Faithfully Executive the Laws of the United States.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Red-Hatter salutes now raising the arm, even at the bars of America!

There was nothing arbitrary or capricious about it. Biden is a corrupt politicians who took bribes from a foreign government.

Prove it. What did Biden get our of it.

He got an $83,000/month job for his son.

So you say, but cannot prove. Not to mention, but I will anyway.... Hunter got that job years before Shokin was fired, so that also had nothing to do with it.

Your conclusion doesn't follow from your premise. That's not surprising since you lack the capacity to commit logic.

 

[bripat9643]

The President doesn't require "authorization" to pursue his agenda, moron.

He does have to abide by the prerequisites of the treaty the yahoo right is claiming allows Trump to ask Ukraine to investigate Biden.

Which prerequisite is he violating?

The request had to be in writing and it had to be for an ongoing investigation of which Trump had to name the person(s) investigating.

What request?

LOL

Dayum, you're such a fucking moron.

In other words, you can't name it.

Thanks for playing.

 

[mascale]

The Bidens in Ukraine are not the US Treaty violation of the President personally, regarding Ukraine. Then anyone notices that it was aided and abetted from within the administration, and it went on for several weeks. It was not just an off-hand phone call. It was a warrantless request, circumventing law.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Trump family Hors d'oeuvres, in the context of usury economics--originating of Deut. 23: 19-20, an example: Are suddenly on the table! For explanation, see Matt 25:14-30, Keynes as applied by Ronald Reagan--of that widely touted outcome.)

 

[bripat9643]

The Bidens in Ukraine are not the US Treaty violation of the President personally, regarding Ukraine. Then anyone notices that it was aided and abetted from within the administration, and it went on for several weeks. It was not just an off-hand phone call. It was a warrantless request, circumventing law.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Trump family Hors d'oeuvres, in the context of usury economics--originating of Deut. 23: 19-20, an example: Are suddenly on the table! For explanation, see Matt 25:14-30, Keynes as applied by Ronald Reagan--of that widely touted outcome.)

Incoherent babble. Who said it was a treaty violation?

 

[mascale]

The Treaty specifies the participants to the request, designated officials in the law of both nations. The Trump office released the parody/paraphrased transcript on its own. It created the Treaty Violation all by itself, and with 25 others listening in: Just in the United States alone! The call is an outlaw violation. White House ponied up the violation on its own.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Kurdish babies already left for munching, already subsequent the phone call!)