Obamateurism of the Year ?

[boedicca]

Jobs created to offset jobs lost. It's not that complex, really.

no its not, and you cannot claim every one of those jobs created was due to the stimulus, there are people right this moment getting jobs, that has nothing to do with the stimulus and in this environment, they just wait a little longer.

No, it's never a perfect science, but virtually all economists and the CBO seem to agree that it has had some stimulative effect. It's not only the jobs created that's imperfect, but also attempting to forecast an economy in absentia.

But just baselessly screaming its a failure is far less scientific than the methodology employed by the economic community... Just sayin'

You babbling booby of bromides.

What you completely disregard is AT WHAT FRELLING COST?

Jobs that take $1M+ to create are at the expense of many other jobs that were not created because resources were misused by the government.

 

[Cuyo]

Then go to the BLS yourself and search for total non-farm employment by month.

U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics


I do realize it's pointless to provide any real data to a moron like you - but am suggesting that others not believe the bullshit you are spinning.

No, you silly ass. You will not spin this.

I AM AWARE THAT UNEMPLOYMENT CONTINUED TO RISE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME - But the jobs TREND began reversing immediately.

Again, it's really not that complicated. We're not comparing a simple "A to B." We're comparing "B to B if there had been no stimulus."

You are a complete and utter idiot.

The Job trend did not begin to reverse immediately. Over 3M jobs were lost during Obama's first term. His Big Government policies have forestalled a recovery which should be much more robust than the feeble 2.5% growth rate that doesn't even generate enough jobs to keep up with population growth.

This is how Obamnomics compares to policies tried during other downturns:

Hey imbecile.....

Look at month 24 of your graph... THAT'S where Obama took office. You have just swimmingly proved my point. GOD DAMN that must sting... Do you ever get tired of being wrong about EVERYTHING?

Here's another.

 

[Cuyo]

no its not, and you cannot claim every one of those jobs created was due to the stimulus, there are people right this moment getting jobs, that has nothing to do with the stimulus and in this environment, they just wait a little longer.

No, it's never a perfect science, but virtually all economists and the CBO seem to agree that it has had some stimulative effect. It's not only the jobs created that's imperfect, but also attempting to forecast an economy in absentia.

But just baselessly screaming its a failure is far less scientific than the methodology employed by the economic community... Just sayin'

You babbling booby of bromides.

What you completely disregard is AT WHAT FRELLING COST?

Jobs that take $1M+ to create are at the expense of many other jobs that were not created because resources were misused by the government.

See? See what's happening?

You realize how dumb and wrong you are, so now you're moving the goalposts. Now it's "OK it worked, but AT WHAT COST.... AT... what.... cost....?"

Now call me a Socialist, declare victory and run away. I know your playbook, boob.

 

[boedicca]

No, you silly ass. You will not spin this.

I AM AWARE THAT UNEMPLOYMENT CONTINUED TO RISE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME - But the jobs TREND began reversing immediately.

Again, it's really not that complicated. We're not comparing a simple "A to B." We're comparing "B to B if there had been no stimulus."

You are a complete and utter idiot.

The Job trend did not begin to reverse immediately. Over 3M jobs were lost during Obama's first term. His Big Government policies have forestalled a recovery which should be much more robust than the feeble 2.5% growth rate that doesn't even generate enough jobs to keep up with population growth.

This is how Obamnomics compares to policies tried during other downturns:

Hey imbecile.....

Look at month 24 of your graph... THAT'S where Obama took office. You have just swimmingly proved my point. GOD DAMN that must sting... Do you ever get tired of being wrong about EVERYTHING?

Here's another.

Every recession bottoms out. The issue with this one is that the subsequent recovery has been incredibly anemic and is NOT GENERATING ENOUGH JOBS TO KEEP UP WITH POPULATION GROWTH. Obamanomics has retarded the growth rate by at least 50%.

 

[boedicca]

No, it's never a perfect science, but virtually all economists and the CBO seem to agree that it has had some stimulative effect. It's not only the jobs created that's imperfect, but also attempting to forecast an economy in absentia.

But just baselessly screaming its a failure is far less scientific than the methodology employed by the economic community... Just sayin'

You babbling booby of bromides.

What you completely disregard is AT WHAT FRELLING COST?

Jobs that take $1M+ to create are at the expense of many other jobs that were not created because resources were misused by the government.

See? See what's happening?

You realize how dumb and wrong you are, so now you're moving the goalposts. Now it's "OK it worked, but AT WHAT COST.... AT... what.... cost....?"

Now call me a Socialist, declare victory and run away. I know your playbook, boob.

You are an idiotic and an economic iliterate. Now go read more cooked CBO scores and tell us how they are reality.

 

[Cuyo]

You babbling booby of bromides.

What you completely disregard is AT WHAT FRELLING COST?

Jobs that take $1M+ to create are at the expense of many other jobs that were not created because resources were misused by the government.

See? See what's happening?

You realize how dumb and wrong you are, so now you're moving the goalposts. Now it's "OK it worked, but AT WHAT COST.... AT... what.... cost....?"

Now call me a Socialist, declare victory and run away. I know your playbook, boob.

You are an idiotic and an economic iliterate. Now go read more cooked CBO scores and tell us how they are reality.

Yes... Yes... The CBO is one of THEM!

Why can't you just admit you're wrong? It might feel good. I suspect you've never tried it. Posting graphs that prove I was right can't possibly feel very satisfying.

 

[boedicca]

A loss of 3.5M jobs proves you have your head firmly up your ass.

Enjoy the view.

 

[Cuyo]

A loss of 3.5M jobs proves you have your head firmly up your ass.

Enjoy the view.

Hey, good talk. Of course, your blinding hatred for all things Democrat have prevented us from getting anywhere, and your still talking about a statistic irrelevant to the conversation, which I have already debunked... With your help to boot.

But good talk. Happy new year to you too!

 

[Greenbeard]

I AM AWARE THAT UNEMPLOYMENT CONTINUED TO RISE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME - But the jobs TREND began reversing immediately.

Not everyone got to derivatives in high school.

 

[Trajan]

Jobs created to offset jobs lost. It's not that complex, really.

no its not, and you cannot claim every one of those jobs created was due to the stimulus, there are people right this moment getting jobs, that has nothing to do with the stimulus and in this environment, they just wait a little longer.

No, it's never a perfect science, but virtually all economists and the CBO seem to agree that it has had some stimulative effect. It's not only the jobs created that's imperfect, but also attempting to forecast an economy in absentia.

But just baselessly screaming its a failure is far less scientific than the methodology employed by the economic community... Just sayin'

Please read my prior post to maggie ala the CBO.

yes and I have already said it created some jobs and saved some too and I also said that that price was exorbitant.

In any case we can leave it several sects factions grps of experts in the economic community there are as one sect faction grp goes, the ones whom have left the admin., they were dead wrong in their assertions as to the value of the stimulus, you and I know this. They made their case, got their money and here we sit.

It appears we are quibbling over whether Rome burned all the way or only 3/4's. Sure the 1/4 not burning is great, but they said it would not burn more than a quarter...and add in that we have used up all of our fire fighting equipment as well. Thats the point, by analogy as I see it.

 

[boedicca]

I AM AWARE THAT UNEMPLOYMENT CONTINUED TO RISE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME - But the jobs TREND began reversing immediately.

Not everyone got to derivatives in high school.

It's clear neither of you got economics.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

A loss of 3.5M jobs proves you have your head firmly up your ass.

Enjoy the view.

Hey, good talk. Of course, your blinding hatred for all things Democrat have prevented us from getting anywhere, and your still talking about a statistic irrelevant to the conversation, which I have already debunked... With your help to boot.

But good talk. Happy new year to you too!

More like a hatred of all things Proggressive/Liberal/Marxist.

 

[(R)IGHTeous 1]

57 states is still pretty epic.

And didn't he call us all "enemies" @ 1 point?

 

[Sallow]

Every recession bottoms out. The issue with this one is that the subsequent recovery has been incredibly anemic and is NOT GENERATING ENOUGH JOBS TO KEEP UP WITH POPULATION GROWTH. Obamanomics has retarded the growth rate by at least 50%.

Bush's economy wasn't either. Not for the entire time the Administration was in power. Now, suddenly..it's a problem?

 

[boedicca]

I don't recall ever claiming that the Economy under Bush was operating in an optimal manner.

And whatever Bush's failure were, they don't given Obama a pass for failing in his own responsibilities.

 

[Jackson]

told his administration that no one was to use the term "terrorists" any longer, but then turned around and called the Republicans "terrorists and Hostage takers.."

 

[Jackson]

During his first visit to Washington, Gordon Brown gave Obama a beautiful pen and pencil set carved out of the wood of a Royal Navy Ship that was taking slaves back to Africa.

In turn, Obama gave Brown a set of CD's that didn't work in the UK, told him to take back the bust of Winston Churchill that Tony Blair brought to White House as a gift years earlier and never met them for dinner or had a state dinner for them as prime ministers had always had with previous presidents.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Every recession bottoms out. The issue with this one is that the subsequent recovery has been incredibly anemic and is NOT GENERATING ENOUGH JOBS TO KEEP UP WITH POPULATION GROWTH. Obamanomics has retarded the growth rate by at least 50%.

Bush's economy wasn't either. Not for the entire time the Administration was in power. Now, suddenly..it's a problem?

President Bush's time in office is ending as it began, with our economy under stress. The recession President Bush inherited as he entered office ran through the attacks of September 11, 2001, but during the recovery that followed, and due in no small part to the tax relief President Bush worked with Congress to provide, this country experienced its longest run of uninterrupted job growth - 52 straight months, with 8.3 million jobs created.

This reflected six consecutive years of economic growth from the Fourth Quarter of 2001 until the Fourth Quarter of 2007. From 2000 to 2007, real GDP grew by more than 17 percent, a remarkable gain of nearly 2.1 trillion dollars. This growth was driven in part by increased labor productivity gains that have averaged 2.5 percent annually since 2001, a rate that exceeds the averages of the 1970s, '80s, and '90s. In the same period, real after-tax income per capita increased by more than 11 percent, and there was a 4.7 percent increase in the number of new businesses formed. The current economic challenges, which the President and his Administration have responded to aggressively, threaten to reverse some of these gains - but the gains cannot be denied.

RealClearPolitics - Articles - Myths & Facts About the Real Bush Record

 

[mudwhistle]

I went with the one where he said at some point you've made enough money....But how will it ever be enough money when the Lib spending machine wants to take that money and spend it on all their lofty goals.

The answer They want people to make what they feel is fair and then put their hands in their pockets and take what they want...This will bring down those evil rich fucks and have them be in the same boat as everyone else.Dependent on Government Cheese.

That's a great idea.

Get rid of employers so all of us will be dependents.

 

[mdn2000]

Only presidents cause problems, nothing else. The scapegoat of the nation, just think, in 2012 we will elect the person who fixes everything.