Obama's Support Weaker Than Poll Numbers Appear

Only a fool would think there's a difference between the Dembos and Repugs. Both are big government warmongering liberals taking this country off the cliff.

Loyalty to the country always. Loyalty to the government when it deserves it. - Mark Twain

This country deserves none.

:blahblah:
 
No worries here...............

Barry and the k00ks have four more months of living the fantasy before it all gets mothballed.......and it doesnt take a genius to figure it out.

This healthcare shit is at around 55% disapprove. GDP growth is abyssmal. On Friday, job numbers again will be a joke. The overall mood in the majority is that things are getting shittier...........not better, ( despite what the k00ks on here tell you)

But the clincher for me..........the most boring, hideous candidate the GOP has ever put forth ( McCain)only lost by 3% or 4% in a half dozen battleground states in 2008........and that was AFTER an economic collapse.


Its all good.......for two years, Ive been chomping at the bit to watch the morons on MSNBC come election night. Wouldnt miss it for the world.............seeing 4 hideously miserable Disney meatheads sitting there like they have telephone poles shoved far up their rear ends!!!
 
It's hard to say that Obama is positioned anywhere close to as well as he was in 2008. Back then, he was new, no one really knew him. He spoke well. He's black so he could get the minority and sympathetic votes more easily. He could basically say anything he wanted and people would believe him since he didn't have a track record to prove it right or wrong. Add that into the animosity toward Bush and a +70 year old opponent.

Now: Obama has a record of a disastrous economy, very high unemployment, record deficits, pursuit of far left policies. Not to say there aren't some positives but +$1 trillion deficits and a real unemployment rate of ~16-18% outweighs gettin' Bin Laden, at least to a lot of people.

Where in 2008, plenty of people in the middle gave Obama the "anti-Bush" vote, Romney will get plenty of "anti-Obama" votes this time around.

The polls are not bearing that out which is the objective data.
Subjectively, there is no passion around Romney even with Republicans.

Obama will get another term.
 
The people won't have the wool over their eyes this time. We know what a miserable, deceitful failure Obama is and will continue to be. Almost everyone has been burned by Obama's BS. This shouldn't even be close IMO.

Just look at the people sitting in 110 degree weather with no power. What'd Obama do? Did he give a speech on restoring energy? No. He took it as an opportunity to sell $30 tank tops LMAO.

Gay marriage, Keystone, Obama Care, a $15 trillion debt, robbing medicare, 20 percent real unemployment, a deficient Mid East Plan, the Arab Spring failure, two complete morons put on the SC, class warfare, bank bailouts, auto bailouts, union shell games, no leadership during OWS, telling Boeing where they can build plants, socialist czars, high gas prices.

Yea, I'd say the people have had enough.

You forgot your evidence about him being born in Kenya. Oh yeah, you lied about that too, didn't you?

Your catterwalling is amusing to say the least. Gas prices are below $3 in some areas; they were upwards of $5 in some places during the 08 campaign.
 
Taking bets here.

Anyone interested?

Avi or Sig bet.

I think Obama wins re-election.

Any takers?
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I absolutely agree with you, Sallow!

I have stated for a long time now that Obama will re-election.

Why, you may ask? Because I have complete confidence in the ignorance and stupidity of the average American voter, especially in large metropolitan areas.

As for me, I'm voting for somebody I can trust: MYSELF. Write-in. I can't be bought, or sold. That's why I am not a politician.
 
It's hard to say that Obama is positioned anywhere close to as well as he was in 2008. Back then, he was new, no one really knew him. He spoke well. He's black so he could get the minority and sympathetic votes more easily. He could basically say anything he wanted and people would believe him since he didn't have a track record to prove it right or wrong. Add that into the animosity toward Bush and a +70 year old opponent.

Now: Obama has a record of a disastrous economy, very high unemployment, record deficits, pursuit of far left policies. Not to say there aren't some positives but +$1 trillion deficits and a real unemployment rate of ~16-18% outweighs gettin' Bin Laden, at least to a lot of people.

Where in 2008, plenty of people in the middle gave Obama the "anti-Bush" vote, Romney will get plenty of "anti-Obama" votes this time around.

The polls are not bearing that out which is the objective data.
Subjectively, there is no passion around Romney even with Republicans.

Obama will get another term.

You haven't been reading. The Republican base is swelling and the base of the Democrats have been dwindling. The youth vote is not as strong, the overwhelming passion is gone andsome leaders of the party aren't even showing up to their own convention.

The SCOTUS ruling has had quite a positive effect for the Republicans.
 
It's hard to say that Obama is positioned anywhere close to as well as he was in 2008. Back then, he was new, no one really knew him. He spoke well. He's black so he could get the minority and sympathetic votes more easily. He could basically say anything he wanted and people would believe him since he didn't have a track record to prove it right or wrong. Add that into the animosity toward Bush and a +70 year old opponent.

Now: Obama has a record of a disastrous economy, very high unemployment, record deficits, pursuit of far left policies. Not to say there aren't some positives but +$1 trillion deficits and a real unemployment rate of ~16-18% outweighs gettin' Bin Laden, at least to a lot of people.

Where in 2008, plenty of people in the middle gave Obama the "anti-Bush" vote, Romney will get plenty of "anti-Obama" votes this time around.

The polls are not bearing that out which is the objective data.
Subjectively, there is no passion around Romney even with Republicans.

Obama will get another term.

You haven't been reading. The Republican base is swelling and the base of the Democrats have been dwindling. The youth vote is not as strong, the overwhelming passion is gone andsome leaders of the party aren't even showing up to their own convention.

The SCOTUS ruling has had quite a positive effect for the Republicans.

And the candidate of the Republican party is where? Totally out of sight. Maybe you're not paying attention. It seems as though the Governor is missing an opportunity (your alleged opportunity that is).

The polls are bearing that out.

Obama will get a second term.
 
so lets do the math. they say that 42% of registered voters are conservative/Rep/GOP,,,,,and about 15/18% are independants. That leaves about 40% who will vote for anyone with a D next to their name,yet have no idea what their policies are,so long as they get a handout. so who wins?
 
Obama hasn't lost a major poll to Romney since about the middle of May. That's over a time period when every rightwing idiot on this board was pissing themselves in glee over all the supposed bad news that was hitting Obama.

It is going to be fun watching your head explode in November.

Better see if you can get an advance on your Food Stamps, because we are coming for them!

:lol:

You must be pissed off then that mittens isn't going to get rid of Obamacare, he is just going to replace it, but keep most of it.

You people are being scammed.
 
These ppl r more than being scammed...they're willfully scamming themselves
 

RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - General Election: McCain vs. Obama

The reason you are wrong is because the Fordham 'study' that everyone on the right posts to defend Rasmussen came out immediately after the election and the 6% number used was an ESTIMATE.
 
Obama hasn't lost a major poll to Romney since about the middle of May. That's over a time period when every rightwing idiot on this board was pissing themselves in glee over all the supposed bad news that was hitting Obama.

It is going to be fun watching your head explode in November.

Better see if you can get an advance on your Food Stamps, because we are coming for them!

:lol:

I'll bet a thousand bucks on Obama right now, pussy. And I'll put the money with a neutral party we agree on,

via PayPal.

How about it?

I guess that's a no.

Want to bet the change in the pocket of your sweatpants? Is that more in your range?
 
Obama hasn't lost a major poll to Romney since about the middle of May. That's over a time period when every rightwing idiot on this board was pissing themselves in glee over all the supposed bad news that was hitting Obama.

It is going to be fun watching your head explode in November.

Better see if you can get an advance on your Food Stamps, because we are coming for them!

:lol:

I'll bet a thousand bucks on Obama right now, pussy. And I'll put the money with a neutral party we agree on,

via PayPal.

How about it?

you're so completely full of shit.:cuckoo:
 
It is going to be fun watching your head explode in November.

Better see if you can get an advance on your Food Stamps, because we are coming for them!

:lol:

I'll bet a thousand bucks on Obama right now, pussy. And I'll put the money with a neutral party we agree on,

via PayPal.

How about it?

you're so completely full of shit.:cuckoo:

You want the bet? Find someone here you trust as an intermediary, who'll hold the bet, we'll send him/her a hundred bucks at a time, alternately, to keep each other honest.
 
They had Reagan way behind in the polls right up until election day, and then he won in a total land slide. Election polls are practically worthless. They're meaningless, easily manipulated and aren't a good indication of anything other than what some news or polling entity wants you to believe.

The kenyan will lose, and lose big. He won by lying his face off during his campaign, but there's enough people that bought those lies that won't be fooled again. He has lost those swing votes, period. He has zero chance of being reelected.

Mitt Romney is not even in the same stratosphere as Ronald Reagan. Even though I disagreed with most of his policies, he was a brilliant campaigner and speaker. For the first time I can remember we have a canidate running against policies he implemented. There is tape after tape of Mitt praising the virtues of an individual mandate. And cons who labled Kerry as the biggest flipflopper of all time are strangely silient about this.

He is not running against it. He is running saying what is good for 1 state is not good for the Country. His Positions is the mandate is not a tax, it's an Unconstitutional Attempt to coerce you into creating Commerce.
 
I'll bet a thousand bucks on Obama right now, pussy. And I'll put the money with a neutral party we agree on,

via PayPal.

How about it?

you're so completely full of shit.:cuckoo:

You want the bet? Find someone here you trust as an intermediary, who'll hold the bet, we'll send him/her a hundred bucks at a time, alternately, to keep each other honest.

dude. Paypal does not let you use your Food Stamp card for deposits.

LOL
 
There is a compelling divergence regarding President Obama's reelection chances when we consider what the poll numbers are telling us versus what the boots on the ground are indicating.

A Wall Street Journal/NBC News nationwide poll taken during June 20-24 shows that Obama still leads the presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney 47% to 44%. These results are within the poll's margin of error and are also close to the Real Clear Politics aggregation of major polls which finds Obama leading Romney 47.5% to 43.8%.

The same WSJ/NBC news poll found Obama leading Romney 50% to 42% in twelve so-called battleground states when considered as a group. However, when we observe the actions by those Democratic politicians up for reelection this fall in those battleground states and other states, that is their general reluctance to stand alongside President Obama, another story is told. These politicians are more in tune with the local voters and are distancing themselves from Obama. This may be indicative that Obama's support is not as high as it appears to be according to pollsters.
Read more: Obama's Support Weaker Than Poll Numbers Appear - President Obama - Fox Nation

Now, I have noticed this myself. As a matter of fact, I was going to start a thread on what I noticed. So, this is as good a time as any.

I use Rasmussen as my example, because A) Rasumussen was the most accurate poll in 2008 as to what the final tallies were for the election and B) Rasmussen uses LIKELY VOTERS not "people" as some polls that show Obama WILDLY ahead.

Now (for example) over the weekend, there was a tie between the candidates, but today it shows Romney +2 (which is within the margin of error, so you still might as well call it a tie)
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports™

BUT, notice this from the same organization!

WOW! Obama approval poll is MINUS 19!!!!!!!
Obama Approval Index History - Rasmussen Reports™

And then you go to the Generic Ballot and Republicans are ahead by an average of 5%!
Generic Congressional Ballot - Rasmussen Reports™

So, something is askew here people. Why such wildly divergent numbers. I think Rush Limbaugh is right.

No one wants to tell a pollster that they aren't going to vote for the black guy. They don't want to appear racist.

But, they can say they don't approve of hisn policies and they can say they will more likely vote for Republicans.

It's extremely illogical, but since when are people always logical.

It's something to watch. But something on the Obama vs. Romney numbers just don't add up.

Especially when you see Democrats running to the tall grass rather than go to the convention or even be SEEN with Obama.


Well--it's always "the economy stupid." Americans ALWAYS vote their wallets. George Bush 1 was very popular after the Gulf War--and in one year we had a very "minor"--almost non-felt recession as compared to this one--and he lost to Bill Clinton.

Unemployment is on the rise again standing at 8.2%--manufacturing jobs just crashed to a 3 year low--suggesting there will be more lay-offs coming. The economy is still in the tank--housing prices have not recovered--millions of Americans are still underwater and I don't think they're going to want another 4 years of this.

As far as the polling data--you must remember that these polling companies intention is to keep a race "close"--otherwise people stop paying attention to them. I remember the Carter/Reagan race clearly of 1980. We were told by all polling data that the race was close up until election eve. And this is the result of that election.

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Carter v Reagan 1980
 
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