Obama's Socialism Explained

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Interesting take on Obama's methods of DC-directed "compliant capitalism."

Is Obama really being this open regarding his desire to control all aspects of American business? Or is he simply bumbling about and being given direction by others?

At any rate, Morris makes a compelling case...

HOW OBAMA’S SOCIALISM WORKS at DickMorris.com
 
Personally, I believe that Obama’s desire for this nation goes further than Socialists ever dreamed of. Obama comes from a father who believed in 100% taxation, which would put the government in total control of all of the money. Tell, me, is that really a far cry from what Obama is doing with his “Redistribution of The Wealth Economics?”

I guess this is Obama-Omics.

Yes?

Debra J.M. Smith
of
Informing Christians
 
Great article. I don't think a lot of people understand the nuances of what happened with the whole Chyrsler deal and what kind of an impact the administration had on it. I respect Dick Morris since he's been a Washington insider and close with the Clintons in the past, so he knows how things go down in the Whitehouse. He's seemingly been very open and frank about what happens behind closed doors and I like to hear his opinion on things. Thanks for posting it.
 
Great article. I don't think a lot of people understand the nuances of what happened with the whole Chyrsler deal and what kind of an impact the administration had on it. I respect Dick Morris since he's been a Washington insider and close with the Clintons in the past, so he knows how things go down in the Whitehouse. He's seemingly been very open and frank about what happens behind closed doors and I like to hear his opinion on things. Thanks for posting it.

Dick Morris is nothing but a political gun for hire. He has not now and never has had any principles whatsoever.
 
Great article. I don't think a lot of people understand the nuances of what happened with the whole Chyrsler deal and what kind of an impact the administration had on it. I respect Dick Morris since he's been a Washington insider and close with the Clintons in the past, so he knows how things go down in the Whitehouse. He's seemingly been very open and frank about what happens behind closed doors and I like to hear his opinion on things. Thanks for posting it.

Dick Morris is nothing but a political gun for hire. He has not now and never has had any principles whatsoever.


Ah, I see... so the 'right' is just paying him more right now, huh? :lol:
 
Great article. I don't think a lot of people understand the nuances of what happened with the whole Chyrsler deal and what kind of an impact the administration had on it. I respect Dick Morris since he's been a Washington insider and close with the Clintons in the past, so he knows how things go down in the Whitehouse. He's seemingly been very open and frank about what happens behind closed doors and I like to hear his opinion on things. Thanks for posting it.

Dick Morris is nothing but a political gun for hire. He has not now and never has had any principles whatsoever.

That makes his take on Washington DC even more compelling. He has very much been there and done that. And he certainly knows the machinations of manipulating the media and public sentiment - so if anything, his take on what Obama is doing might be the most legitimate of any of the political insiders.

And I also agree with the other post regarding what went down with Chrysler - Morris put a rather complicated process into easy to understand terms. In essence, Obama has brought a new level of Chicago style thug politics to DC. Whether one supports that style or not - it very much appears to be what it is.
 
Interesting take on Obama's methods of DC-directed "compliant capitalism."

Is Obama really being this open regarding his desire to control all aspects of American business? Or is he simply bumbling about and being given direction by others?

At any rate, Morris makes a compelling case...

HOW OBAMA’S SOCIALISM WORKS at DickMorris.com

So Morris criticizes Obama for trying to save Chrylser from a complete shutdown.

What was Morris' counterproposal? Just close the doors because it is a victim of the recession?

Another politico whose only contribution is "no".
 
Great article. I don't think a lot of people understand the nuances of what happened with the whole Chyrsler deal and what kind of an impact the administration had on it. I respect Dick Morris since he's been a Washington insider and close with the Clintons in the past, so he knows how things go down in the Whitehouse. He's seemingly been very open and frank about what happens behind closed doors and I like to hear his opinion on things. Thanks for posting it.

Dick Morris is nothing but a political gun for hire. He has not now and never has had any principles whatsoever.

That makes his take on Washington DC even more compelling. He has very much been there and done that. And he certainly knows the machinations of manipulating the media and public sentiment - so if anything, his take on what Obama is doing might be the most legitimate of any of the political insiders.

And I also agree with the other post regarding what went down with Chrysler - Morris put a rather complicated process into easy to understand terms. In essence, Obama has brought a new level of Chicago style thug politics to DC. Whether one supports that style or not - it very much appears to be what it is.


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Dick Morris is nothing but a political gun for hire. He has not now and never has had any principles whatsoever.

That makes his take on Washington DC even more compelling. He has very much been there and done that. And he certainly knows the machinations of manipulating the media and public sentiment - so if anything, his take on what Obama is doing might be the most legitimate of any of the political insiders.

And I also agree with the other post regarding what went down with Chrysler - Morris put a rather complicated process into easy to understand terms. In essence, Obama has brought a new level of Chicago style thug politics to DC. Whether one supports that style or not - it very much appears to be what it is.


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That makes his take on Washington DC even more compelling. He has very much been there and done that. And he certainly knows the machinations of manipulating the media and public sentiment - so if anything, his take on what Obama is doing might be the most legitimate of any of the political insiders.

And I also agree with the other post regarding what went down with Chrysler - Morris put a rather complicated process into easy to understand terms. In essence, Obama has brought a new level of Chicago style thug politics to DC. Whether one supports that style or not - it very much appears to be what it is.

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To bad he's not eligible again. Call him smart or call him lucky, I'll take a prez getting blow jobs along with surplus budgets, record stock runs, falling unemployment, record economic boom, falling crime rates, and falling poverty compared to the mess we've had since he left office.
 
Interesting take on Obama's methods of DC-directed "compliant capitalism."

Is Obama really being this open regarding his desire to control all aspects of American business? Or is he simply bumbling about and being given direction by others?

At any rate, Morris makes a compelling case...

HOW OBAMA’S SOCIALISM WORKS at DickMorris.com

So Morris criticizes Obama for trying to save Chrylser from a complete shutdown.

What was Morris' counterproposal? Just close the doors because it is a victim of the recession?

Another politico whose only contribution is "no".

You beat me to the punch, again.

True Socialism would have meant total government control over and operation of Chrysler and putting employees on the government payroll. Same with the bank bailouts (which is a misnomer because the TARP funds are loans, not cash thrown into their coffers with no accountability). If Socialism was the intent, the government would have taken over all the financial institutions. End of story. Obama is a Socialist would have been true.

Isn't it ironic, though, that the bailout of the S&L's by the Reagan administration isn't ever mentioned as being a "socialistic" maneuver? On a much smaller scale, it was the same kind of situation.
 
Personally, I believe that Obama’s desire for this nation goes further than Socialists ever dreamed of. Obama comes from a father who believed in 100% taxation, which would put the government in total control of all of the money. Tell, me, is that really a far cry from what Obama is doing with his “Redistribution of The Wealth Economics?”

I guess this is Obama-Omics.

Yes?

Debra J.M. Smith
of
Informing Christians

No.

The "redistribution" already occurred when the massive tax cuts heavily favored the wealthy with crumbs to the lower classes. The current "redistribution" will merely bring the tax rates back to where they were during the Clinton administration. Were you complaining then?
 
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Great article. I don't think a lot of people understand the nuances of what happened with the whole Chyrsler deal and what kind of an impact the administration had on it. I respect Dick Morris since he's been a Washington insider and close with the Clintons in the past, so he knows how things go down in the Whitehouse. He's seemingly been very open and frank about what happens behind closed doors and I like to hear his opinion on things. Thanks for posting it.

Dick Morris is nothing but a political gun for hire. He has not now and never has had any principles whatsoever.


Ah, I see... so the 'right' is just paying him more right now, huh? :lol:

Well Morris WAS fired by the Clintons and kind of waded around for awhile to see which way the wind blew the strongest for him.
 
Great article. I don't think a lot of people understand the nuances of what happened with the whole Chyrsler deal and what kind of an impact the administration had on it. I respect Dick Morris since he's been a Washington insider and close with the Clintons in the past, so he knows how things go down in the Whitehouse. He's seemingly been very open and frank about what happens behind closed doors and I like to hear his opinion on things. Thanks for posting it.

You respect Dick Morris since he's been a Washington insider and close with the Clintons in the past, so he knows how things go down in the Whitehouse.

Do you respect Colin Powell since he's been a Washington insider and close with the Bushs in the past, so he knows how things go down in the Whitehouse?
 
Interesting take on Obama's methods of DC-directed "compliant capitalism."

Is Obama really being this open regarding his desire to control all aspects of American business? Or is he simply bumbling about and being given direction by others?

At any rate, Morris makes a compelling case...

HOW OBAMA’S SOCIALISM WORKS at DickMorris.com

So Morris criticizes Obama for trying to save Chrylser from a complete shutdown.

What was Morris' counterproposal? Just close the doors because it is a victim of the recession?

Another politico whose only contribution is "no".

You beat me to the punch, again.

True Socialism would have meant total government control over and operation of Chrysler and putting employees on the government payroll. Same with the bank bailouts (which is a misnomer because the TARP funds are loans, not cash thrown into their coffers with no accountability). If Socialism was the intent, the government would have taken over all the financial institutions. End of story. Obama is a Socialist would have been true.

Isn't it ironic, though, that the bailout of the S&L's by the Reagan administration isn't ever mentioned as being a "socialistic" maneuver? On a much smaller scale, it was the same kind of situation.

I don't believe Obama ran for office with the plan of the Govt buying banks and auto manufactures or lending Wall Street billions. The economic fiasco was thrust upon him and he is doing the best he can to avoid a catastrophe. While folks can legitimately debate what the best course of action would be, the proposition that fiscal stimulus and intervention to unfreeze the credit markets can certainly be logically defended.

Good point about the S&Ls.
 
Interesting take on Obama's methods of DC-directed "compliant capitalism."

Is Obama really being this open regarding his desire to control all aspects of American business? Or is he simply bumbling about and being given direction by others?

At any rate, Morris makes a compelling case...

HOW OBAMA’S SOCIALISM WORKS at DickMorris.com

So Morris criticizes Obama for trying to save Chrylser from a complete shutdown.

What was Morris' counterproposal? Just close the doors because it is a victim of the recession?

Another politico whose only contribution is "no".

You beat me to the punch, again.

True Socialism would have meant total government control over and operation of Chrysler and putting employees on the government payroll. Same with the bank bailouts (which is a misnomer because the TARP funds are loans, not cash thrown into their coffers with no accountability). If Socialism was the intent, the government would have taken over all the financial institutions. End of story. Obama is a Socialist would have been true.

Isn't it ironic, though, that the bailout of the S&L's by the Reagan administration isn't ever mentioned as being a "socialistic" maneuver? On a much smaller scale, it was the same kind of situation.

Point of clarification...


The vast majority of the S&L bailouts occurred under Bush I and then extended well into the Clinton administration. The RTC was set up in 1989, and was not completed until 1995.

Also, Morris clearly stipulated that what Obama is doing would not fall under historical versions of socialism, so in essence, it appears you are both in agreement.

You did read his column, yes?
 
Interesting take on Obama's methods of DC-directed "compliant capitalism."

Is Obama really being this open regarding his desire to control all aspects of American business? Or is he simply bumbling about and being given direction by others?

At any rate, Morris makes a compelling case...

HOW OBAMA’S SOCIALISM WORKS at DickMorris.com

Dick Morris?

The guy who goes to prostitutes?

So does Obama...

right after he visits his crack dealer.
 
So Morris criticizes Obama for trying to save Chrylser from a complete shutdown.

What was Morris' counterproposal? Just close the doors because it is a victim of the recession?

Another politico whose only contribution is "no".

You beat me to the punch, again.

True Socialism would have meant total government control over and operation of Chrysler and putting employees on the government payroll. Same with the bank bailouts (which is a misnomer because the TARP funds are loans, not cash thrown into their coffers with no accountability). If Socialism was the intent, the government would have taken over all the financial institutions. End of story. Obama is a Socialist would have been true.

Isn't it ironic, though, that the bailout of the S&L's by the Reagan administration isn't ever mentioned as being a "socialistic" maneuver? On a much smaller scale, it was the same kind of situation.

I don't believe Obama ran for office with the plan of the Govt buying banks and auto manufactures or lending Wall Street billions. The economic fiasco was thrust upon him and he is doing the best he can to avoid a catastrophe. While folks can legitimately debate what the best course of action would be, the proposition that fiscal stimulus and intervention to unfreeze the credit markets can certainly be logically defended.

Good point about the S&Ls.

No, he didn't plan it, but as we all know a good crisis is a horrible thing to waste. Too bad the flu pandemics didn't pan out as they would have liked.
 
You beat me to the punch, again.

True Socialism would have meant total government control over and operation of Chrysler and putting employees on the government payroll. Same with the bank bailouts (which is a misnomer because the TARP funds are loans, not cash thrown into their coffers with no accountability). If Socialism was the intent, the government would have taken over all the financial institutions. End of story. Obama is a Socialist would have been true.

Isn't it ironic, though, that the bailout of the S&L's by the Reagan administration isn't ever mentioned as being a "socialistic" maneuver? On a much smaller scale, it was the same kind of situation.

I don't believe Obama ran for office with the plan of the Govt buying banks and auto manufactures or lending Wall Street billions. The economic fiasco was thrust upon him and he is doing the best he can to avoid a catastrophe. While folks can legitimately debate what the best course of action would be, the proposition that fiscal stimulus and intervention to unfreeze the credit markets can certainly be logically defended.

Good point about the S&Ls.

No, he didn't plan it, but as we all know a good crisis is a horrible thing to waste. Too bad the flu pandemics didn't pan out as they would have liked.

In my perception it is the conservatives who seem to be hoping that the economy tanks and Obama's policies don't work.
 

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