Obama’s simplistic view of income inequality

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Nice opinion piece by Charles Lane

Obama’s simplistic view of income inequality

First, the facts...
In a Dec. 16 Gallup poll, 52 percent of Americans called the rich-poor gap “an acceptable part of our economic system.” Only 45 percent said it “needs to be fixed.” This is the precise opposite of what Gallup found in 1998, the last time it asked the question, when 52 percent wanted to “fix” inequality.

now, the opinion...
...channeling income from rich to poor, Okun wrote, was like trying to carry water in a leaky bucket. He wanted to move money from rich to poor without “leaking” so much economic growth that the whole process became self-defeating.
The president, like Okun, acknowledged that the free market created “prosperity and a standard of living unmatched by the rest of the world.” But he explained the recent rise in inequality too simplistically, as the result of financial deregulation and the “breathtaking greed” it enabled.

And rather than tackle the big trade-off directly, Obama tried to sidestep it. Rising inequality “hurts us all,” he argued, implying that more widely distributed income would essentially pay for itself through higher growth.

and now some more facts...
Which European country recorded the biggest decrease in inequality between 1985 and 2008? That would be Greece.

and some more opinions...
Public-sector unions and other interest groups wrap their causes in the rhetoric of equality. Often, what they’re really protecting are privileges that raise the cost of public services to everyone else — including citizens who earn a lot less than civil servants.
 
Nice opinion piece by Charles Lane

Obama’s simplistic view of income inequality

First, the facts...
In a Dec. 16 Gallup poll, 52 percent of Americans called the rich-poor gap “an acceptable part of our economic system.” Only 45 percent said it “needs to be fixed.” This is the precise opposite of what Gallup found in 1998, the last time it asked the question, when 52 percent wanted to “fix” inequality.

now, the opinion...
...channeling income from rich to poor, Okun wrote, was like trying to carry water in a leaky bucket. He wanted to move money from rich to poor without “leaking” so much economic growth that the whole process became self-defeating.


and now some more facts...
Which European country recorded the biggest decrease in inequality between 1985 and 2008? That would be Greece.

and some more opinions...
Public-sector unions and other interest groups wrap their causes in the rhetoric of equality. Often, what they’re really protecting are privileges that raise the cost of public services to everyone else — including citizens who earn a lot less than civil servants.

Of course you would use an opinionated source.

Here's the truth about what the wealthy pay in taxes:

PolitiFact | Warren Buffett says the super-rich pay lower tax rates than others
 
your ideas are historically failed ideas.

Yet again your foolish crap has crashed the world economy.

It has not gone unnoticed by the people.

Your spin is spinning its wheels in the face of facts
 
Nice opinion piece by Charles Lane

Obama’s simplistic view of income inequality

First, the facts...
In a Dec. 16 Gallup poll, 52 percent of Americans called the rich-poor gap “an acceptable part of our economic system.” Only 45 percent said it “needs to be fixed.” This is the precise opposite of what Gallup found in 1998, the last time it asked the question, when 52 percent wanted to “fix” inequality.

now, the opinion...



and now some more facts...


and some more opinions...
Public-sector unions and other interest groups wrap their causes in the rhetoric of equality. Often, what they’re really protecting are privileges that raise the cost of public services to everyone else — including citizens who earn a lot less than civil servants.

Of course you would use an opinionated source.

Here's the truth about what the wealthy pay in taxes:

PolitiFact | Warren Buffett says the super-rich pay lower tax rates than others

Your stupidity is overwhelming


Report: Buffett's Berkshire Owes $1 Billion In Back Taxes
 
Nice opinion piece by Charles Lane

Obama’s simplistic view of income inequality

First, the facts...
In a Dec. 16 Gallup poll, 52 percent of Americans called the rich-poor gap “an acceptable part of our economic system.” Only 45 percent said it “needs to be fixed.” This is the precise opposite of what Gallup found in 1998, the last time it asked the question, when 52 percent wanted to “fix” inequality.

now, the opinion...



and now some more facts...


and some more opinions...
Public-sector unions and other interest groups wrap their causes in the rhetoric of equality. Often, what they’re really protecting are privileges that raise the cost of public services to everyone else — including citizens who earn a lot less than civil servants.

Of course you would use an opinionated source.

Here's the truth about what the wealthy pay in taxes:

PolitiFact | Warren Buffett says the super-rich pay lower tax rates than others

way to avoid addressing the actual content of the piece. I SAID it was an opinion piece, dipstick.
 
Nice opinion piece by Charles Lane

Obama’s simplistic view of income inequality

First, the facts...


now, the opinion...



and now some more facts...


and some more opinions...

Of course you would use an opinionated source.

Here's the truth about what the wealthy pay in taxes:

PolitiFact | Warren Buffett says the super-rich pay lower tax rates than others

way to avoid addressing the actual content of the piece. I SAID it was an opinion piece, dipstick.

Yes, a simplistic opinion.
 
Of course you would use an opinionated source.

Here's the truth about what the wealthy pay in taxes:

PolitiFact | Warren Buffett says the super-rich pay lower tax rates than others

way to avoid addressing the actual content of the piece. I SAID it was an opinion piece, dipstick.

Yes, a simplistic opinion.
He had to use small words so you'd understand it. He apparently overestimated your intelligence.
 
The Fallacy of the OPINION piece is that Greece's failure is being caused by the income gap. The failure of the Greek economy is due to the fact that they don't have the GDP to have all those social programs... Same with Ireland.

Look at the strong economies in Europe. They have the ability to support it, and they do... We have the biggest economy on the globe, so the bullshit that "we can't afford it" doesn't hold water.
 
your ideas are historically failed ideas.

Yet again your foolish crap has crashed the world economy.

It has not gone unnoticed by the people.

Your spin is spinning its wheels in the face of facts

Can you not read, you hopeless hack?

Which European country recorded the biggest decrease in inequality between 1985 and 2008? That would be Greece.
How's Greece doing right now?
 
The Right is OK with some people making much more money than other people, as long as everyone is making more than they used to.
The Left wants everyone to be poor and miserable. That is their equality.
 
The Right is OK with some people making much more money than other people, as long as everyone is making more than they used to.
The Left wants everyone to be poor and miserable. That is their equality.

Yeah? Well you don't see obamie giving up his ten million to become poor doya?
 
The Fallacy of the OPINION piece is that Greece's failure is being caused by the income gap. The failure of the Greek economy is due to the fact that they don't have the GDP to have all those social programs... Same with Ireland.

Look at the strong economies in Europe. They have the ability to support it, and they do... We have the biggest economy on the globe, so the bullshit that "we can't afford it" doesn't hold water.

Indeed. Look at Germany...if not for their social safety net, Germany could have been in much worse shape than they were...and would not have recovered as quickly.
 
The Fallacy of the OPINION piece is that Greece's failure is being caused by the income gap. The failure of the Greek economy is due to the fact that they don't have the GDP to have all those social programs... Same with Ireland.

Look at the strong economies in Europe. They have the ability to support it, and they do... We have the biggest economy on the globe, so the bullshit that "we can't afford it" doesn't hold water.

Ireland's per capita GDP is higher than England, France, Germany, Belgium Italy and Spain.
 
The Fallacy of the OPINION piece is that Greece's failure is being caused by the income gap. The failure of the Greek economy is due to the fact that they don't have the GDP to have all those social programs... Same with Ireland.

Look at the strong economies in Europe. They have the ability to support it, and they do... We have the biggest economy on the globe, so the bullshit that "we can't afford it" doesn't hold water.

Did you even bother to read the piece? Nowhere in it does it claim that the failure in Greece was 'caused' by an income gap.

Which European country recorded the biggest decrease in inequality between 1985 and 2008? That would be Greece.

The writer is showing a corollary between the 'reduction' of the gap between the rich and poor, and the failure. The implication being that had Greece 'not' tried to reduce the gap, they might not have failed so utterly.
 
The Fallacy of the OPINION piece is that Greece's failure is being caused by the income gap. The failure of the Greek economy is due to the fact that they don't have the GDP to have all those social programs... Same with Ireland.

Look at the strong economies in Europe. They have the ability to support it, and they do... We have the biggest economy on the globe, so the bullshit that "we can't afford it" doesn't hold water.

Indeed. Look at Germany...if not for their social safety net, Germany could have been in much worse shape than they were...and would not have recovered as quickly.

Actually Germany came out OK because they resisted the calls for a big stimulus and let their economy recover naturally.
Their social safety net is a mess, with their health care system bankrupt.
 
Here's the real fallacy of the piece in the OP:

He wanted to move money from rich to poor without “leaking” so much economic growth that the whole process became self-defeating.

Decreasing income gaps and increasing income equality INCREASES economic growth. It doesn't "leak" growth.
 
Here's the real fallacy of the piece in the OP:

He wanted to move money from rich to poor without “leaking” so much economic growth that the whole process became self-defeating.

Decreasing income gaps and increasing income equality INCREASES economic growth. It doesn't "leak" growth.

Uh, no.
Restricting the ability to conduct transactions costs everyone money.
 
Uh, no.
Restricting the ability to conduct transactions costs everyone money.

I understand what your ideology tells you. I'm reporting what the facts of history tell me. The U.S. economy grew more than twice as fast in terms of per capita GDP during the 40 years when income gaps were relatively narrow (1940-1980) than in the 40 years prior to that or in the 31 years since. Also, if you compare nations in terms of income equality/inequality and also in terms of per capita GDP/PPP, you find that the richest countries in the world almost all have narrow income gaps and low levels of inequality.

That's what demand-side economics would predict, because narrower income gaps mean higher consumer demand which drives investment into production of goods and services and so pushes up GDP growth. As such, it's a real-world empirical test of demand-side versus supply-side economics. Demand-side wins.
 
The failure of the Greek economy is due to the fact that they don't have the GDP to have all those social programs... Same with Ireland.

Actually, that's not true. Ireland's troubles can be directly linked to Anglo Irish Bank and corrupt government officials, just like here. Had absolutely nothing to do w/public programs.

In Ireland, The Death Of 'The Celtic Tiger' Leads To Anger, Populist Uproar : The Two-Way : NPR

And of course, only the poor and middle class of Ireland will have to suffer the consequences and "sacrifice"... just like here.
 
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