Obama's right Cheney is wrong...

Obama has almost single handedly destroyed islamic extremist mythology.

The result has been the defeat of Hezbollah in the Lebanese elections, the Pakistani government attacking the Taliban's bases, and the near destruction of the government in Iran.

But the moronic right doesn't get it. There are one billion muslims in the world. Only the muslims can defeat islamic extremism.

Pissy Chrissy, the Obamarrhoid Wonder states:

"Only the muslims can defeat islamic extremism."

Hmmmmm.....lets see now.

We could have defeated the Nazis by doing nothing because:

"Only the Nazis can defeat Nazis".

We could have defeated the Commies in the Cold War, by doing nothing because:

"Only the Commies can defeat Commies."

Let's elect Obamarrhoidal Idiots like Pissy Chrissy.....oh, wait. We already have those Idiots in power.

Al Qaeda is not a country, Corky.

jeezus

NYCrapeer,

Where did ANY ONE state that Al Queda was a country, you DELUSIONAL FREAK ?????

Apparently, you think you can pull a straw man outa your arse to suit your Agenda, knock it down......and slither away under the impression that you accomplished a coup de grace.

You Obamarrhoids are DESPICABLE in the way you distort the facts, and make OUTRAGEOUS LIES to score your imaginary points.

The days for that sort of BULLSHIT exercised with ARROGANCE and APLOMB by your Messiah, The MARXIST Obami Salami are GONE !!!

FINITO LA COMEDIA, you fucking lying Obamarrhoidal asshole.
 
No Chris, you fail to see the light on the train.

The train is bearing down on Annie as she points in the other direction.

....."Only the muslims can defeat islamic extremism"

Truer words were never spoken. It is entirely on muslims to stop terrorism.

And, since there isn't a chance in hell that these Islamic PSYCHOS will turn on their own Religion, whose Honcho is a Thief and Pedophile Mohahahahahahamed whose central message is to transform the World into an Islamic Caliphate "word or SWORD".....WE WILL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO PROTECT OURSELVES BY STOPPING THEIR AGGRESSION IN THEIR TRACKS.
 
Obama has almost single handedly destroyed islamic extremist mythology.

The result has been the defeat of Hezbollah in the Lebanese elections, the Pakistani government attacking the Taliban's bases, and the near destruction of the government in Iran.

But the moronic right doesn't get it. There are one billion muslims in the world. Only the muslims can defeat islamic extremism.

No Chris, you fail to see the light on the train.

The train is bearing down on Annie as she points in the other direction.

Starkey the Purveyor of Malarkey,

That observation of yours to Annie EXACTLY pinpoints the problem you Delusional OBAMARRHOIDS have.....and the proof is crashing down all around you as you OBLIVIOUSLY flip flop around in La La Land.
 
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Al Qaeda Leader Behind Northwest Flight 253 Terror Plot Was Released by U.S.

Former Guantanamo Prisoner Believed Behind Northwest Airlines Bomb Plot; Sent to Saudi Arabia in 2007


Northwest Flight 253: al Qaeda Leader Behind Terror Plot Was Released by U.S. - ABC News

Yep.

Dubya caved to the pressure of the Obamarrhoids with a Disastrous Result.

And, of course, The hypocritical Obamarrhoids are blaming Dubya for their application of pressure on him......typical.
 
Thursday, December 31, 2009

FORMER VICE president Richard B. Cheney on Wednesday joined a Republican chorus criticizing the Obama administration's decision to charge alleged bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab in federal court. Mr. Cheney and others argue that Mr. Abdulmutallab, who is accused of trying to down Northwest Flight 253 over Detroit on Christmas, should have been held as an enemy combatant and pumped for information, rather than read his Miranda rights and provided a lawyer. They further argue that the decision to shuttle him to federal court shows that President Obama is in denial about the dangers of terrorism.
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Dick Cheney's loose lips
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Criminal or combatant?

This last claim has no merit. Just as it would be a mistake to approach all terrorist acts as a law enforcement challenge, so would it be imprudent to dispense with strong and available law enforcement tools, and to deal with all such incidents as acts of war. Recall that the Bush administration prosecuted shoe bomber Richard Reid in federal court for attempting to down a transatlantic flight using the same type of explosives allegedly found on Mr. Abdulmutallab. No one then questioned the Bush-Cheney administration's judgment or its resolve -- and rightly so.

The prospects for Mr. Abdulmutallab's prosecution are good. Multiple eyewitnesses can testify to the incident on the plane, and physical evidence, including the failed explosive device, has been recovered. If the case goes to trial, there is probably little danger that secret sources or methods will be exposed.
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Yet part of the critics' argument is worthy of discussion. Mr. Abdulmutallab could have been detained without charge and interrogated outside of the constraints of federal rules to give the administration an opportunity to gather information in hopes of thwarting a future attack. The Supreme Court has acknowledged this authority, and the Obama administration has gone so far as to argue that Congress, through the 2001 Authorization for the Use of Military Force, gave the president the right to hold combatants indefinitely as long as a court of law rules that the initial detention was justified.

So why not bundle the Nigerian suspect to a secure location for intensive questioning by the CIA? First, because he already has been talking to authorities about his affiliation with al-Qaeda and the possibility of other attacks. Second, because he is no Khalid Sheik Mohammed -- he is not a seasoned al-Qaeda operator but a disturbed young man whom the group tried to use as cannon fodder.

Most important, the Bush administration's own experience has showed that holding suspects as enemy combatants creates more problems than it solves, because of the lack of due process and legal accountability. We have called for the creation of a national security court to govern presidential decisions to detain those who are too dangerous to release but against whom there is insufficient evidence to hold under federal criminal statutes. This authority could be valuable in interrogating those high up in a terrorist organization who are believed to possess significant operational information. It would be wasted on Mr. Abdulmutallab.

One wonders how it is possible for someone sincerely interested in blocking our BLATANTLY OBVIOUS Islamofascist enemy by considering some semi-retarded Muslim youngster in getting all the explosives, and being financially equipped to carry out the Terrorist Agenda by booking flights, etc....AS AN ISOLATED EXTREMIST as our Home Security Genius Janet Napolitansky repeatedly claims.

MARXIST Obami Salami, and his Obamarrhoidal stooges are behaving as though they are in some sort of PC induced trance where these EXTREMELY WELL ORGANIZED RELIGIOUSLY MOTIVATED SAVAGE FANATICS i.e. Al QUEDA, whose network is connected to IRAN, in that though disparate, are UNITED IN THE AVOWED COMMON GOAL of DESTROYING AMERICA as the GREAT SATAN, and Israel, as the SMALLER VERSION of us.

THESE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS ORGANIZED RELIGIOUS FANATICS.....are MIS-IDENTIFIED by our LA LA LAND OBAMARRHOIDS as "ISOLATED EXTREMISTS" who are misguided "CRIMINALS" to be treated as such by giving them "RIGHTS" identical to those of delinquent American Citizens, with attendant lawyers who come between OTHERWISE DIRECT "FACE-TO-FACE" INTERROGATION, are MIRANDIZED, and the SUPPOSEDLY "speedy trial" of our Court System (which is usually dragged out for YEARS)......turned into Fan Fared Hoopla CIRCUS ACTS that give the TERRORISTS the platform to speechify their PROPAGANDA to their Allies around the World.

:cuckoo:
 
Fascists like draft dodger Dick Cheney do not like American law. Due process isn't part of the vocabulary of the spineless.
 
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Thursday, December 31, 2009

FORMER VICE president Richard B. Cheney on Wednesday joined a Republican chorus criticizing the Obama administration's decision to charge alleged bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab in federal court. Mr. Cheney and others argue that Mr. Abdulmutallab, who is accused of trying to down Northwest Flight 253 over Detroit on Christmas, should have been held as an enemy combatant and pumped for information, rather than read his Miranda rights and provided a lawyer. They further argue that the decision to shuttle him to federal court shows that President Obama is in denial about the dangers of terrorism.
This Story

*
Dick Cheney's loose lips
*

*
Criminal or combatant?

This last claim has no merit. Just as it would be a mistake to approach all terrorist acts as a law enforcement challenge, so would it be imprudent to dispense with strong and available law enforcement tools, and to deal with all such incidents as acts of war. Recall that the Bush administration prosecuted shoe bomber Richard Reid in federal court for attempting to down a transatlantic flight using the same type of explosives allegedly found on Mr. Abdulmutallab. No one then questioned the Bush-Cheney administration's judgment or its resolve -- and rightly so.

The prospects for Mr. Abdulmutallab's prosecution are good. Multiple eyewitnesses can testify to the incident on the plane, and physical evidence, including the failed explosive device, has been recovered. If the case goes to trial, there is probably little danger that secret sources or methods will be exposed.
ad_icon

Yet part of the critics' argument is worthy of discussion. Mr. Abdulmutallab could have been detained without charge and interrogated outside of the constraints of federal rules to give the administration an opportunity to gather information in hopes of thwarting a future attack. The Supreme Court has acknowledged this authority, and the Obama administration has gone so far as to argue that Congress, through the 2001 Authorization for the Use of Military Force, gave the president the right to hold combatants indefinitely as long as a court of law rules that the initial detention was justified.

So why not bundle the Nigerian suspect to a secure location for intensive questioning by the CIA? First, because he already has been talking to authorities about his affiliation with al-Qaeda and the possibility of other attacks. Second, because he is no Khalid Sheik Mohammed -- he is not a seasoned al-Qaeda operator but a disturbed young man whom the group tried to use as cannon fodder.

Most important, the Bush administration's own experience has showed that holding suspects as enemy combatants creates more problems than it solves, because of the lack of due process and legal accountability. We have called for the creation of a national security court to govern presidential decisions to detain those who are too dangerous to release but against whom there is insufficient evidence to hold under federal criminal statutes. This authority could be valuable in interrogating those high up in a terrorist organization who are believed to possess significant operational information. It would be wasted on Mr. Abdulmutallab.

One wonders how it is possible for someone sincerely interested in blocking our BLATANTLY OBVIOUS Islamofascist enemy by considering some semi-retarded Muslim youngster in getting all the explosives, and being financially equipped to carry out the Terrorist Agenda by booking flights, etc....AS AN ISOLATED EXTREMIST as our Home Security Genius Janet Napolitansky repeatedly claims.

MARXIST Obami Salami, and his Obamarrhoidal stooges are behaving as though they are in some sort of PC induced trance where these EXTREMELY WELL ORGANIZED RELIGIOUSLY MOTIVATED SAVAGE FANATICS i.e. Al QUEDA, whose network is connected to IRAN, in that though disparate, are UNITED IN THE AVOWED COMMON GOAL of DESTROYING AMERICA as the GREAT SATAN, and Israel, as the SMALLER VERSION of us.

THESE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS ORGANIZED RELIGIOUS FANATICS.....are MIS-IDENTIFIED by our LA LA LAND OBAMARRHOIDS as "ISOLATED EXTREMISTS" who are misguided "CRIMINALS" to be treated as such by giving them "RIGHTS" identical to those of delinquent American Citizens, with attendant lawyers who come between OTHERWISE DIRECT "FACE-TO-FACE" INTERROGATION, are MIRANDIZED, and the SUPPOSEDLY "speedy trial" of our Court System (which is usually dragged out for YEARS)......turned into Fan Fared Hoopla CIRCUS ACTS that give the TERRORISTS the platform to speechify their PROPAGANDA to their Allies around the World.

:cuckoo:

Starkey The purveyor of the usual Malarkey. let me respond with an equally Substance laden way: :cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:
 
Fascists like draft dodger Dick Cheney do like American law. Due process isn't part of the vocabulary of the spineless.

Shitcan,

Dick Cheney was medically exempt.

On the other hand, Clinton wasn't.

The EPITOME of a Draft Dodger was the Liberal Icon, The sex-maniac Clinton.

Clinton bugged out to Canada.....then Soviet Russia.

But he did more than that.

Clinton marched in the Red Square in Anti-Vietnam War rallies where the American flag was desecrated, and our military were defiled as savages and War mongers.

And there wasn't any "DUE PROCESS" in that BULLSHIT !!!

So, get fucked you Obamarrhoid POS
 
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Al Qaeda Leader Behind Northwest Flight 253 Terror Plot Was Released by U.S.

Former Guantanamo Prisoner Believed Behind Northwest Airlines Bomb Plot; Sent to Saudi Arabia in 2007


Northwest Flight 253: al Qaeda Leader Behind Terror Plot Was Released by U.S. - ABC News

Yep.

Dubya caved to the pressure of the Obamarrhoids with a Disastrous Result.

And, of course, The hypocritical Obamarrhoids are blaming Dubya for their application of pressure on him......typical.

:lol::lol: So Bush and Cheney, in reality, by your own logic, are spineless pussies?
 
Fascists like draft dodger Dick Cheney do like American law. Due process isn't part of the vocabulary of the spineless.

Shitcan,

Dick Cheney was medically exempt.
On the other hand, Clinton wasn't.

The EPITOME of a Draft Dodger was the Liberal Icon, The sex-maniac Clinton.

Clinton bugged out to Canada.....then Soviet Russia.

But he did more than that.

Clinton marched in the Red Square in Anti-Vietnam War rallies where the American flag was desecrated, and our military were defiled as savages and War mongers.

And there wasn't any "DUE PROCESS" in that BULLSHIT !!!

So, get fucked you Obamarrhoid POS

He was not medically exempt.
 
White House Responds to Cheney Criticism


First, it's important that the substantive context be clear: for seven years after 9/11, while our national security was overwhelmingly focused on Iraq – a country that had no al Qaeda presence before our invasion – Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda's leadership was able to set up camp in the border region of Pakistan and Afghanistan, where they continued to plot attacks against the United States. Meanwhile, al Qaeda also regenerated in places like Yemen and Somalia, establishing new safe-havens that have grown over a period of years. It was President Obama who finally implemented a strategy of winding down the war in Iraq, and actually focusing our resources on the war against al Qaeda – more than doubling our troops in Afghanistan, and building partnerships to target al Qaeda's safe-havens in Yemen and Somalia. And in less than one year, we have already seen many al Qaeda leaders taken out, our alliances strengthened, and the pressure on al Qaeda increased worldwide.

To put it simply: this president is not interested in bellicose rhetoric, he is focused on action. Seven years of bellicose rhetoric failed to reduce the threat from al Qaeda and succeeded in dividing this country. And it seems strangely off-key now, at a time when our country is under attack, for the architect of those policies to be attacking the president.

Second, the former vice president makes the clearly untrue claim that the president – who is this nation's commander in chief – needs to realize we are at war. I don't think anyone realizes this very hard reality more than President Obama. In his inaugural, the president said "our nation is at war against a far-reaching network of violence and hatred." In a recent speech, Assistant to the President for Terrorism and Homeland Security John Brennan said "Instead, as the president has made clear, we are at war with al Qaeda, which attacked us on 9/11 and killed 3,000 people. We are at war with its violent extremist allies who seek to carry on al Qaeda's murderous agenda. These are the terrorists we will destroy; these are the extremists we will defeat." At West Point, the President told the nation why it was "in our vital national interest" to send an additional 30,000 U.S. troops to fight the war in Afghanistan, adding that as commander in chief, "I see firsthand the terrible wages of war." And at Oslo, in accepting the Nobel Peace Prize, the president said, "We are at war, and I am responsible for the deployment of thousands of young Americans to battle in a distant land."

There are numerous other such public statements that explicitly state we are at war. The difference is this: President Obama doesn't need to beat his chest to prove it, and – unlike the last administration – we are not at war with a tactic ("terrorism"), we at war with something that is tangible: al Qaeda and its violent extremist allies. And we will prosecute that war as long as the American people are endangered.

White House Responds to Cheney Criticism - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
 
One wonders how it is possible for someone sincerely interested in blocking our BLATANTLY OBVIOUS Islamofascist enemy by considering some semi-retarded Muslim youngster in getting all the explosives, and being financially equipped to carry out the Terrorist Agenda by booking flights, etc....AS AN ISOLATED EXTREMIST as our Home Security Genius Janet Napolitansky repeatedly claims.

MARXIST Obami Salami, and his Obamarrhoidal stooges are behaving as though they are in some sort of PC induced trance where these EXTREMELY WELL ORGANIZED RELIGIOUSLY MOTIVATED SAVAGE FANATICS i.e. Al QUEDA, whose network is connected to IRAN, in that though disparate, are UNITED IN THE AVOWED COMMON GOAL of DESTROYING AMERICA as the GREAT SATAN, and Israel, as the SMALLER VERSION of us.

THESE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS ORGANIZED RELIGIOUS FANATICS.....are MIS-IDENTIFIED by our LA LA LAND OBAMARRHOIDS as "ISOLATED EXTREMISTS" who are misguided "CRIMINALS" to be treated as such by giving them "RIGHTS" identical to those of delinquent American Citizens, with attendant lawyers who come between OTHERWISE DIRECT "FACE-TO-FACE" INTERROGATION, are MIRANDIZED, and the SUPPOSEDLY "speedy trial" of our Court System (which is usually dragged out for YEARS)......turned into Fan Fared Hoopla CIRCUS ACTS that give the TERRORISTS the platform to speechify their PROPAGANDA to their Allies around the World.

:cuckoo:

Starkey The purveyor of the usual Malarkey. let me respond with an equally Substance laden way: :cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
Al Qaeda Leader Behind Northwest Flight 253 Terror Plot Was Released by U.S.

Former Guantanamo Prisoner Believed Behind Northwest Airlines Bomb Plot; Sent to Saudi Arabia in 2007


Northwest Flight 253: al Qaeda Leader Behind Terror Plot Was Released by U.S. - ABC News

Yep.

Dubya caved to the pressure of the Obamarrhoids with a Disastrous Result.

And, of course, The hypocritical Obamarrhoids are blaming Dubya for their application of pressure on him......typical.

:lol::lol: So Bush and Cheney, in reality, by your own logic, are spineless pussies?

NYCRAPeer,

Bush and Cheney caved. That doesn't in any way indicate that they were "spineless opussies".This once they trusted the hypocritical Dems and learned the lesson that EVEYRYONE should learn: that trusting the judgment of the Fucking Dems.....especially the OBAMARRHOIDS is fraught with DISASTER !!!

The 52% of America that elected the Political Charlatan MARXIST Obami Salami are not "SPINELESS OPUSSIES".....according to YOUR logic. They are damn fools....as were Bush and Cheney in that particular case.
 
It puzzles me why anyone would seek Cheneys advice on anything

He proved to be wrong on every major decision he advocated with the Bush administration

-Torture
- WMDs
- Saddam Husseins links to terrorism
- Invading Iraq
 
It puzzles me why anyone would seek Cheneys advice on anything

He proved to be wrong on every major decision he advocated with the Bush administration

-Torture
- WMDs
- Saddam Husseins links to terrorism
- Invading Iraq

He probably had Gautama advising him.
 
Fascists like draft dodger Dick Cheney do like American law. Due process isn't part of the vocabulary of the spineless.
Dick Cheney was medically exempt.

None were for health, he was a draft dodger of excellence, a spineless neocon who wants others to fight while he robs and steals. Five deferments, sure is a sign of a real warrior. LOL

While Clinton too is not praiseworthy, Clinton didn't illegally invade a nation, condone it, and lie about it as Cheney did daily. Bawk Bawk chickenhawk.

" We are told that toward the end of the one public hearing held on this nomination, Sen. John Warner asked Richard Cheney about the draft deferments he received during the Vietnam era {March 15}.

Mr. Cheney responded to this question in this way: "I would have been happy to serve if called."

This statement should offend all. It defines the height of duplicity, hypocrisy and dishonesty.

More important, it insults those Americans who served in the military during those tremendously painful years, and more tragic, it cheapens the service of those who were not so lucky to be deferred and ... "
 
Cheney remains one of the most despicable of American hacks, ranking with James Wilkinson and James Buchanan.
 

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