Obama's plan is to redistribute the wealth.

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    I guess I actually believe the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few,or the one! I believe this can be achieved without destroying incentive.I may be a romantic and somewhat sentimental but I also believe that the better angels of our nature will prevail when we care about each other.Give people a hand up not a hand out and require them to meet conditions on that help!
     
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    I agree, the difference is that I know that the government is not the most effective and certainly not the most efficient way to provide for those in need. On the other hand, it would be really wonderful if they would work on all levels to repair/replace/build the infrastructure they've let go for nearly 50 years.
     
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    Good start, but sadly there's a few details to that plan that need to be fleshed out.
     
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    How do you know that?
     
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    By what they've done before. How they've mishandled social security, affirmative action, Medicare. What they've done regarding procurement and the military. Earmarks. Taking gifts from lobbyists. There is no incentives for politicians to act carefully with our money.
     
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    Check it out at Americans For Fair Taxation: Americans for Fair Taxation
     
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    Okay you know that this system is fraught with problems, but you implied that you KNEW government was not the best system for providing those services.

    That suggests that you know of a better system, doesn't it?

    What system do you have in mind?
     
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    the rich can avoid a state sales tax already, but a consumption tax is in addition to this that would be avoided...i'd like to see this loophole closed, so that the fair tax is TRUELY a fair tax where no one can get around it...

    good that SS would be incorporated in to it.

    good that services would be taxed as well...

    what about buying stocks and other investments here and overseas, would that be taxed when you bought them?

    and i still have problems with real estate, primarily your owner occupied homes, being taxed when you buy one.... this would make homes more expensive in a troubling market imo...

    but i will try to read your link before the day's end!

    Care
     
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    As local as possible. PADS, shelters, etc. Churches, libraries, local organizations have always had programs such as ESL and tutoring. Many communities have support services for single parents with children. Funny thing about volunteers, they are usually geared at helping those needing help reach above their circumstances, not maintain them.
     
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    can they at minimum 20 fold their workload if gvt welfare was stopped and they received nothing in tax dollars from the gvt either?

    i don't think our charities could handle it.... :(
     

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