Obama's Medicare Problem

[Leweman]

The Obama approach involves (at best) doing nothing to change our long-term fiscal problems, because it cuts Medicare by $716 billion in order to fund $1.9 trillion in new health care spending. The Romney and Ryan approaches involve resolving our long-term fiscal problems, by stabilizing entitlements and reducing the deficit.

Obamacare emphasizes government control and central planning. The law empowers a panel of 15 unelected government officials, called the Independent Payment Advisory Board, to make changes to the Medicare program that will reduce Medicare spending: primarily paying doctors and hospitals less, as is done with the Medicaid program. Over time, liberal health-policy types hope that IPAB can be used to introduce rationing into Medicare, using the panel to determine what types of procedures and treatments that Medicare will and will not pay for.

Yes, Obamacare Cuts Medicare More Than President Romney Would - Forbes

President Obama in 2009 Pledged to Veto Attempts to Undo Medicare Cuts - ABC News

 

[VaYank5150]

The Obama approach involves (at best) doing nothing to change our long-term fiscal problems, because it cuts Medicare by $716 billion in order to fund $1.9 trillion in new health care spending. The Romney and Ryan approaches involve resolving our long-term fiscal problems, by stabilizing entitlements and reducing the deficit.

Obamacare emphasizes government control and central planning. The law empowers a panel of 15 unelected government officials, called the Independent Payment Advisory Board, to make changes to the Medicare program that will reduce Medicare spending: primarily paying doctors and hospitals less, as is done with the Medicaid program. Over time, liberal health-policy types hope that IPAB can be used to introduce rationing into Medicare, using the panel to determine what types of procedures and treatments that Medicare will and will not pay for.

Yes, Obamacare Cuts Medicare More Than President Romney Would - Forbes

President Obama in 2009 Pledged to Veto Attempts to Undo Medicare Cuts - ABC News

I'm sorry....WHICH Romney or Ryan approach are you referring to? Romneycare? Ryan's desire to eliminate MediCare? Which one are they touting today?

 

[Katzndogz]

It was masterful how Romney and Ryan took that democrat winning issue and turned it against obama. Had obama not looted 716 billion dollars out of medicare, they wouldn't have been able to do that.

 

[Leweman]

the obama approach involves (at best) doing nothing to change our long-term fiscal problems, because it cuts medicare by $716 billion in order to fund $1.9 trillion in new health care spending. The romney and ryan approaches involve resolving our long-term fiscal problems, by stabilizing entitlements and reducing the deficit.

obamacare emphasizes government control and central planning. The law empowers a panel of 15 unelected government officials, called the independent payment advisory board, to make changes to the medicare program that will reduce medicare spending: Primarily paying doctors and hospitals less, as is done with the medicaid program. Over time, liberal health-policy types hope that ipab can be used to introduce rationing into medicare, using the panel to determine what types of procedures and treatments that medicare will and will not pay for.

yes, obamacare cuts medicare more tn president romney would - forbes

president obama in 2009 pledged to veto attempts to undo medicare cuts - abc news

i'm sorry....which romney or ryan approach are you referring to? Romneycare? Ryan's desire to eliminate medicare? Which one are they touting today?

o bam a

 

[VaYank5150]

the obama approach involves (at best) doing nothing to change our long-term fiscal problems, because it cuts medicare by $716 billion in order to fund $1.9 trillion in new health care spending. The romney and ryan approaches involve resolving our long-term fiscal problems, by stabilizing entitlements and reducing the deficit.

obamacare emphasizes government control and central planning. The law empowers a panel of 15 unelected government officials, called the independent payment advisory board, to make changes to the medicare program that will reduce medicare spending: Primarily paying doctors and hospitals less, as is done with the medicaid program. Over time, liberal health-policy types hope that ipab can be used to introduce rationing into medicare, using the panel to determine what types of procedures and treatments that medicare will and will not pay for.

yes, obamacare cuts medicare more tn president romney would - forbes

president obama in 2009 pledged to veto attempts to undo medicare cuts - abc news

i'm sorry....which romney or ryan approach are you referring to? Romneycare? Ryan's desire to eliminate medicare? Which one are they touting today?

o bam a

EXACTLY! You have no idea, just as Romney and Ryan have no idea. They are backpedaling so fast, they can't keep up!

 

[Leweman]

i'm sorry....which romney or ryan approach are you referring to? Romneycare? Ryan's desire to eliminate medicare? Which one are they touting today?

o bam a

EXACTLY! You have no idea, just as Romney and Ryan have no idea. They are backpedaling so fast, they can't keep up!

You seem to be the one lost. I'm talking about facts dealing with Obama and Medicare. You are dealing in lies about Ryan and Romney. But keep refusing to face the fact ... Obama is done son.

 

[VaYank5150]

o bam a

EXACTLY! You have no idea, just as Romney and Ryan have no idea. They are backpedaling so fast, they can't keep up!

You seem to be the one lost. I'm talking about facts dealing with Obama and Medicare. You are dealing in lies about Ryan and Romney. But keep refusing to face the fact ... Obama is done son.

Based on Ryan's interview with Britt Hume on Fox yesterday, he is already lying about what the Romney/Ryan plan is. When Britt asked him (repeatedly) about Ryan's plans for gutting MediCare, he kept chagning the subject. Why do you think that is?

 

[Seawytch]

Wow...700 billion in cuts without a single loss in benefits to Medicare recipients?!? Way to go President Obama. What? And closed the donut hole? Bravo Zulu, sir!!!!

 

[Moonglow]

Again, the OP is seeking to twist the truth. The money is coming from a program that is being eliminated.

 

[Moonglow]

EXACTLY! You have no idea, just as Romney and Ryan have no idea. They are backpedaling so fast, they can't keep up!

You seem to be the one lost. I'm talking about facts dealing with Obama and Medicare. You are dealing in lies about Ryan and Romney. But keep refusing to face the fact ... Obama is done son.

Based on Ryan's interview with Britt Hume on Fox yesterday, he is already lying about what the Romney/Ryan plan is. When Britt asked him (repeatedly) about Ryan's plans for gutting MediCare, he kept chagning the subject. Why do you think that is?

He is learning to be more like Mittens?

 

[onecut39]

The Obama approach involves (at best) doing nothing to change our long-term fiscal problems, because it cuts Medicare by $716 billion in order to fund $1.9 trillion in new health care spending. The Romney and Ryan approaches involve resolving our long-term fiscal problems, by stabilizing entitlements and reducing the deficit.

Obamacare emphasizes government control and central planning. The law empowers a panel of 15 unelected government officials, called the Independent Payment Advisory Board, to make changes to the Medicare program that will reduce Medicare spending: primarily paying doctors and hospitals less, as is done with the Medicaid program. Over time, liberal health-policy types hope that IPAB can be used to introduce rationing into Medicare, using the panel to determine what types of procedures and treatments that Medicare will and will not pay for.

Yes, Obamacare Cuts Medicare More Than President Romney Would - Forbes

President Obama in 2009 Pledged to Veto Attempts to Undo Medicare Cuts - ABC News

So what else is (yawn) new?

Obama’s Medicare Reforms Expanded, Not Cut, Benefits For Seniors | TPMDC

 

[Leweman]

EXACTLY! You have no idea, just as Romney and Ryan have no idea. They are backpedaling so fast, they can't keep up!

You seem to be the one lost. I'm talking about facts dealing with Obama and Medicare. You are dealing in lies about Ryan and Romney. But keep refusing to face the fact ... Obama is done son.

Based on Ryan's interview with Britt Hume on Fox yesterday, he is already lying about what the Romney/Ryan plan is. When Britt asked him (repeatedly) about Ryan's plans for gutting MediCare, he kept chagning the subject. Why do you think that is?

Why do YOU keep changing the subject? Why doesn't Obama have to answer to his 700 billion dollar cuts to medicare? Why can't you answer it?

 

[VaYank5150]

You seem to be the one lost. I'm talking about facts dealing with Obama and Medicare. You are dealing in lies about Ryan and Romney. But keep refusing to face the fact ... Obama is done son.

Based on Ryan's interview with Britt Hume on Fox yesterday, he is already lying about what the Romney/Ryan plan is. When Britt asked him (repeatedly) about Ryan's plans for gutting MediCare, he kept chagning the subject. Why do you think that is?

Why do YOU keep changing the subject? Why doesn't Obama have to answer to his 700 billion dollar cuts to medicare? Why can't you answer it?

President Obama’s reforms target wasteful programs and ensure that taxpayer money is efficiently filtered back into the health care system, allowing seniors to get preventive care without copays. The $700 billion in identified savings help extend the life of Medicare. In fact, the health care law adds an additional eight years of solvency to the program. Perhaps that’s why Romney’s running mate Paul Ryan actually included the exact same savings in his budget—a budget that Romney has fully embraced.

Obama Truth Team — Barack Obama

 

[Leweman]

Wow...700 billion in cuts without a single loss in benefits to Medicare recipients?!? Way to go President Obama. What? And closed the donut hole? Bravo Zulu, sir!!!!

you moron. NO loss in benefits? Medicare is a defined benefit plan. You can't ask providers to do more with less and expect to get the same coverage. You are a dumb one.

 

[Katzndogz]

obama's plan is to take the entirety of medicare and fold it all into obamacare making seniors who paid into the system compete for health care with people illegally here and their many children. Right now, the entitlement for the poor is limited to medicaid keeping the billions earmarked for medicare outside their reach.

 

[VaYank5150]

Wow...700 billion in cuts without a single loss in benefits to Medicare recipients?!? Way to go President Obama. What? And closed the donut hole? Bravo Zulu, sir!!!!

you moron. NO loss in benefits? Medicare is a defined benefit plan. You can't ask providers to do more with less and expect to get the same coverage. You are a dumb one.

The Romney-Ryan campaign in its latest TV ad assails Obama for approving the cuts in 2010. “Obama has cut $716 billion dollars from Medicare,” says the narrator. “The money you paid for your guaranteed health care…is going to a massive new government program that’s not for you.”

Voters might be left with the impression that Romney and Ryan have both opposed the cuts. The truth is that Ryan himself endorses them in his signature budget plan – the same plan Romney has said he would sign as president if it reached his desk.Those Medicare savings -achieved through reduced provider reimbursements and curbed waste, fraud and abuse, not benefit cuts – appear in the House Republicans’ FY 2013 budget, which Ryan authored.

FACT CHECK: Obama, Ryan, Romney Backed Medicare Cuts - ABC News

 

[VaYank5150]

So, Lewe....please tell us all which benefits, specifically have been cut?

 

[Leweman]

So, Lewe....please tell us all which benefits, specifically have been cut?

Accountable Care Organizations ... Medicare beneficiaries are going to be assigned to them involuntarily by the government. Thus, many seniors who today enjoy complete freedom of choice of physicians could find themselves in an ACO in which their physician has a financial incentive to steer them away from the specialists they have normally used for care.

The Medicare Advantage (MA) program allows Medicare beneficiaries to voluntarily elect to take their Medicare entitlement in the form of a fixed monthly payment to an authorized private insurance plan. ObamaCare drastically reduces payments to MA plans. On average, MA enrollees will lose $3,714 worth of extra services by 2017 due to the MA reductions in ObamaCare. These reductions will also mean that 7.4 million beneficiaries who would have enrolled in MA in 2017 will be forced into less preferable options by the MA cuts. That’s a full 50% reduction in expected MA enrollment.


The Medicare drug benefit, enacted in 2003, provides insurance coverage for annual above a deductible but below $2,700 and above $6,154 (these are 2009 levels). The gap between $2,700 and $6,154 is called the “donut hole.” ObamaCare phases out this gap by gradually increasing the $2,700 limit.

The Congressional Budget Office has determined that this plan will raise per prescription costs in Medicare because it will discourage generic substitution in the “donut hole.” With full government-subsidized insurance coverage, many seniors will end up using more expensive branded products with no measurable change in the quality of their care.

Medicare | ObamaCare Watch

So Yank ... please tell us all which benefits, specifically, will be cut with Romney/Ryan.

 

[VaYank5150]

So, Lewe....please tell us all which benefits, specifically have been cut?

Accountable Care Organizations ... Medicare beneficiaries are going to be assigned to them involuntarily by the government. Thus, many seniors who today enjoy complete freedom of choice of physicians could find themselves in an ACO in which their physician has a financial incentive to steer them away from the specialists they have normally used for care.

The Medicare Advantage (MA) program allows Medicare beneficiaries to voluntarily elect to take their Medicare entitlement in the form of a fixed monthly payment to an authorized private insurance plan. ObamaCare drastically reduces payments to MA plans. On average, MA enrollees will lose $3,714 worth of extra services by 2017 due to the MA reductions in ObamaCare. These reductions will also mean that 7.4 million beneficiaries who would have enrolled in MA in 2017 will be forced into less preferable options by the MA cuts. That’s a full 50% reduction in expected MA enrollment.


The Medicare drug benefit, enacted in 2003, provides insurance coverage for annual above a deductible but below $2,700 and above $6,154 (these are 2009 levels). The gap between $2,700 and $6,154 is called the “donut hole.” ObamaCare phases out this gap by gradually increasing the $2,700 limit.

The Congressional Budget Office has determined that this plan will raise per prescription costs in Medicare because it will discourage generic substitution in the “donut hole.” With full government-subsidized insurance coverage, many seniors will end up using more expensive branded products with no measurable change in the quality of their care.

Medicare | ObamaCare Watch

So Yank ... please tell us all which benefits, specifically, will be cut with Romney/Ryan.

Nothing in your piece talks about losing (cutting) of benefits. Please specifically state which ones have been and which ones will be lost. Then I'll explain Ryan's plan to eliminate MediCare altogether and move to a private voucher system, as he rolled it out...

 

[Leweman]

So, Lewe....please tell us all which benefits, specifically have been cut?

Accountable Care Organizations ... Medicare beneficiaries are going to be assigned to them involuntarily by the government. Thus, many seniors who today enjoy complete freedom of choice of physicians could find themselves in an ACO in which their physician has a financial incentive to steer them away from the specialists they have normally used for care.

The Medicare Advantage (MA) program allows Medicare beneficiaries to voluntarily elect to take their Medicare entitlement in the form of a fixed monthly payment to an authorized private insurance plan. ObamaCare drastically reduces payments to MA plans. On average, MA enrollees will lose $3,714 worth of extra services by 2017 due to the MA reductions in ObamaCare. These reductions will also mean that 7.4 million beneficiaries who would have enrolled in MA in 2017 will be forced into less preferable options by the MA cuts. That’s a full 50% reduction in expected MA enrollment.


The Medicare drug benefit, enacted in 2003, provides insurance coverage for annual above a deductible but below $2,700 and above $6,154 (these are 2009 levels). The gap between $2,700 and $6,154 is called the “donut hole.” ObamaCare phases out this gap by gradually increasing the $2,700 limit.

The Congressional Budget Office has determined that this plan will raise per prescription costs in Medicare because it will discourage generic substitution in the “donut hole.” With full government-subsidized insurance coverage, many seniors will end up using more expensive branded products with no measurable change in the quality of their care.

Medicare | ObamaCare Watch

So Yank ... please tell us all which benefits, specifically, will be cut with Romney/Ryan.

Nothing in your piece talks about losing (cutting) of benefits. Please specifically state which ones have been and which ones will be lost. Then I'll explain Ryan's plan to eliminate MediCare altogether and move to a private voucher system, as he rolled it out...

are you stupid or something? Don't bother posting anything else. It's obvious you live in a fantasy world.