Obama's ideal of racial relations

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    Try reading the WHOLE thread and actually learning what the person your defending ACTUALLY said.
     
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    I have read the whole thread.
     
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    Yet you have no clue what Cone ACTUALLY said in regards this matter. Thanks for proving my point.
     
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    Wow... you possess outstanding rhetorical ability. Is this considered a valid form of argument... referencing a whole thread and then insisting that it validates whatever conclusion you want?
     
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    Try deflection now, you can not stand on your merit of the argument because when one actually reads what Cone said about whites your claim it is benign is proven false. Nice try though.

    You want to defend someone, learn what they have said and done before inserting your foot down your throat. Especially when it is presented to you IN the thread your posting in.
     
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    What exactly are we arguing? If we are arguing whether Obama's theory of race relations encompass what Cone has written, then these would be my points.

    1. It is not clear what Cone believes. Certain portions of what he has written are certainly inflammatory, and arguably racist. However, he also has made a number of statements (see previously posted interview with Cone) that conflict with such an interpretation of his writings, and he has stated that this would be the wrong interpretation of his writings.

    2. BLT is a general theological view. There is no Pope to delineate exactly what this theology means (although the Pope doesn't even actually speak for all Catholics). Different churches and different individuals within those churches adhere to their own interpretations.

    3. James Cone is not Jeremiah Wright.

    4. Jeremiah Wright did not make the comments associated with James Cone.

    5. Jeremiah Wright is not Barack Obama.

    6. Barack Obama did not make the comments associated with Jeremiah Wright (which I question constitute racism anyway).

    7. Barack Obama disavowed the comments of Jeremiah Wright.

    8. I have no reason to believe that Obama's theory of race relations encompass what Cone has written as you interpret it, and I believe your interpretation is facile.
     
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    Now remind me again why Trent Lott was hounded out of a position of power? Ohh wait, you do not care. I forgot. That is different.
     
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    Would this be the diversion of which you so often speak?

    You're right. I don't care. Get back to the issue at hand Sonny.
     
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    It is the issue. Cone is a racist, you tried unsuccessfully to claim a single statement of his was "misrepresented" and taken out of context. When provided just one more small example YOU have now tried to change the subject.

    Trent Lott has everything to do with it. Not only did he NOT spend 20 YEARS as a close personal friend of Thurmonds, he did not ever claim he was his mentor nor his religious leader. He also never, to my knowledge, wrote at least one book based on Thurmonds beliefs and teachings. Yet because he said a nice thing about his run for the Presidency years before he was branded a racist and driven from a position of power and attempts were made to have him resign or booted from the Senate.
     

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