Obama's Contempt for Christian Values Takes a Kick in the Balls

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    OBAMACARE HHS ABORTION PILL MANDATE DEALT SERIOUS BLOW; VICTORY FOR PEOPLE OF FAITH

    "Alliance Defending Freedom has just secured the first victory against Obamacare’s HHS Mandate that forces a Christian family to either comply with the mandate and violate their religion or forfeit their livelihood."

    "Oddly, the government argued that the Newlands forfeited their constitutional rights when they started their family business. But Christians or other people of faith do not lose their God-given right to religious freedom when they earn a living. Fortunately, the court did not accept such an outrageous position."

    Herein lies the problem with government trampling Constitutional rights and liberties as opposed to ensuring their integrity.
    Any bets on the dollar amount that will be wasted just on the stream of litigation we're embarking on?
     
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    It's not the government trampling Constitutional rights and liberties.
    It is Obama.
     
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    in fact - "granting an estimated 47 million women access to free contraception and a raft of preventive health services" - is now the Law of the Land.

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    Nothing is free.
     
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    You can have your free birth control without forcing those with faith to provide it. You've had that provision for years now.
    We'll see how this one plays out. But for now, the mandate in this particular case is currently in a holding pattern.
    :)
     
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    i agree nothing is free if that will dispel that argument -


    no one is requiring those who believe against birth control from accepting the benefits - nor should those who's beliefs oppose the same should be allowed to prevent those of a different opinion from gaining access for their own use.
     
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    No one is restricting the use of anything, simply asking that those who oppose such things not be forced to provide them.
     
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    first, old news.

    Second, shitty news source.

    Third, the lawsuit continues and it is not terribly surprising the courts granted an injunction while the lawsuit goes on. It is pretty normal for the courts to grant these injunctions even if the case would be victorious. This is why despite the courts continue to side with gay marriage in california, they also continue to keep gay marriages from continuing until the higher courts deal with it.

    Fourth, no your religion does not allow you to violate laws and practice discrimination. The denial of health care for women, which birth control qualifies as because it has medicinal purposes for women who have certain dangerous medical conditions, is discrimination based on religious values. You cannot base your sexist policies in for profit secular business on your religious values.

    So yeah, not a victory, just a delay while the courts deal with the case.
     
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    in other words it doesnt agree with me so its a horrible source" and "as long as they dont agree with me, they are stooooooopid"
     
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    Actually it does, the first admendment is free exercise of religion, where is descrimination? And are you saying under no circumstances you cant descriminate? You do know the word is more than just racist, right, so I'd be careful tossing it around so cavalierly
     
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