Obama's Birth Cerificate: Is His Last Name The Issue?

[elvis]

Yes. Only because the stupid birthers deserve neither civility or rational discourse.

We don't worry about offending Klansmen when we discuss their bigoted viewpoints.

Thank you for unintentionally proving the hypocrisy of the Left crying for this new Civility.

It's a sham behind which you all hide in order to lob your vile insults.

Wondering what Obama is hiding is not Racism, but you'll use that accusation to keep the truth from being known.

The desperation is very telling.

Are you a birther? If not, then why do you care what I consider them to be?

At this point, two years into watching the birthers cling to their foolish cause (and watching the ones with a lick of sense split off after realizing that it's a lost cause) my belief is that they are being driving out of pure bigotry.

I didn't say they are the same as the klan, but they sure as hell have something in common. They are all bigots.

Well, that's definitely true of those who question the Holocaust.

but I think there are birthers who are so simply because they hate obama, not matter what color he is. it's interesting.

 

[The Infidel]

Are you a birther? If not, then why do you care what I consider them to be?

At this point, two years into watching the birthers cling to their foolish cause (and watching the ones with a lick of sense split off after realizing that it's a lost cause) my belief is that they are being driving out of pure bigotry.

I didn't say they are the same as the klan, but they sure as hell have something in common. They are all bigots.

You'd know.... beings your the "bigger bigot"

 

[Defiant1]

The records for his educational funding and achievement should have been made available by now. Considering the scrutiny on Bush's GPA, it's quite telling that Obama's has been concealed.

Investigative journalism just isn't the same since Dan Rather retired.

 

[geauxtohell]

Thank you for unintentionally proving the hypocrisy of the Left crying for this new Civility.

It's a sham behind which you all hide in order to lob your vile insults.

Wondering what Obama is hiding is not Racism, but you'll use that accusation to keep the truth from being known.

The desperation is very telling.

Are you a birther? If not, then why do you care what I consider them to be?

At this point, two years into watching the birthers cling to their foolish cause (and watching the ones with a lick of sense split off after realizing that it's a lost cause) my belief is that they are being driving out of pure bigotry.

I didn't say they are the same as the klan, but they sure as hell have something in common. They are all bigots.

Well, that's definitely true of those who question the Holocaust.

but I think there are birthers who are so simply because they hate obama, not matter what color he is. it's interesting.

Yeah. Though the two concepts aren't mutually exclusive. Either way, they are not being driven by rational concerns.

This is no longer a "constitutional law" issue to birthers.

 

[geauxtohell]

Are you a birther? If not, then why do you care what I consider them to be?

At this point, two years into watching the birthers cling to their foolish cause (and watching the ones with a lick of sense split off after realizing that it's a lost cause) my belief is that they are being driving out of pure bigotry.

I didn't say they are the same as the klan, but they sure as hell have something in common. They are all bigots.

You'd know.... beings your the "bigger bigot"

Calling a spade a spade doesn't equate to bigotry. You might not like my opinion, but there it is anyway.

 

[The Infidel]

Are you a birther? If not, then why do you care what I consider them to be?

At this point, two years into watching the birthers cling to their foolish cause (and watching the ones with a lick of sense split off after realizing that it's a lost cause) my belief is that they are being driving out of pure bigotry.

I didn't say they are the same as the klan, but they sure as hell have something in common. They are all bigots.

You'd know.... beings your the "bigger bigot"

Calling a spade a spade doesn't equate to bigotry. You might not like my opinion, but there it is anyway.

As you pm'd me.... What-the-fuck-ever

 

[geauxtohell]

You'd know.... beings your the "bigger bigot"

Calling a spade a spade doesn't equate to bigotry. You might not like my opinion, but there it is anyway.

As you pm'd me....

Care to expand on it?

Perhaps you like to defend the birthers? Perhaps you view them as noble constitutionalists and not a bunch of frigging hate mongers and bigots? Perhaps you are one yourself?

What exactly about me using the term "bigot" in the thread sent you into cheetah flips.

Also, if you are going to violate the TOS and post the contents of my PMs on this thread, you can at least be accurate about it. I never used your goofy smiley to convey my point.

 

[shintao]

interesting theory:

The real issue regarding obama's birth certificate is not his birth place, but his adopted name. In hawaii, birth certificates are amended if a child is adopted and has a change of name. Obama's legal name may actually be barry soetero.

Heh.

Will reality ever get a turn?

 

[The Infidel]

Calling a spade a spade doesn't equate to bigotry. You might not like my opinion, but there it is anyway.

As you pm'd me....

Care to expand on it?

Perhaps you like to defend the birthers? Perhaps you view them as noble constitutionalists and not a bunch of frigging hate mongers and bigots? Perhaps you are one yourself?

What exactly about me using the term "bigot" in the thread sent you into cheetah flips.

Also, if you are going to violate the TOS and post the contents of my PMs on this thread, you can at least be accurate about it. I never used your goofy smiley to convey my point.

 

[geauxtohell]

As you pm'd me....

Care to expand on it?

Perhaps you like to defend the birthers? Perhaps you view them as noble constitutionalists and not a bunch of frigging hate mongers and bigots? Perhaps you are one yourself?

What exactly about me using the term "bigot" in the thread sent you into cheetah flips.

Also, if you are going to violate the TOS and post the contents of my PMs on this thread, you can at least be accurate about it. I never used your goofy smiley to convey my point.

You're stumped now, aren't you?

Carry on, then!

 

[The Infidel]

Care to expand on it?

Perhaps you like to defend the birthers? Perhaps you view them as noble constitutionalists and not a bunch of frigging hate mongers and bigots? Perhaps you are one yourself?

What exactly about me using the term "bigot" in the thread sent you into cheetah flips.

Also, if you are going to violate the TOS and post the contents of my PMs on this thread, you can at least be accurate about it. I never used your goofy smiley to convey my point.

I violated nothing by saying what YOU told me.... and again &

 

[geauxtohell]

I violated nothing by saying what YOU told me.... and again &

Something hit close to home, didn't it? I'll try and be more considerate of your feelings next time.

Okay. Not really.

 

[The Infidel]

You're stumped now, aren't you?

Carry on, then!

Oh yeah.... you really smacked me down didnt you

 

[geauxtohell]

You're stumped now, aren't you?

Carry on, then!

Oh yeah.... you really smacked me down didnt you

No. But then again, I am not the one making a total ass out of myself on this thread.

 

[The Infidel]

I violated nothing by saying what YOU told me.... and again &

Something hit close to home, didn't it? I'll try and be more considerate of your feelings next time.

Okay. Not really.

I just cant stand bigots that point their boney fingers at everyone else and then get upset when that are called on it.

So NO nothing hit close to home with me.... you on the other hand

 

[boedicca]

You're stumped now, aren't you?

Carry on, then!

Oh yeah.... you really smacked me down didnt you

No. But then again, I am not the one making a total ass out of myself on this thread.

Don't be so modest. You are giving GC a good run for that dubious honor.

 

[The Infidel]

No. But then again, I am not the one making a total ass out of myself on this thread.

And yet again....

 

[geauxtohell]

I violated nothing by saying what YOU told me.... and again &

Something hit close to home, didn't it? I'll try and be more considerate of your feelings next time.

Okay. Not really.

I just cant stand bigots that point their boney fingers at everyone else and then get upset when that are called on it.

So NO nothing hit close to home with me.... you on the other hand

Whose upset and what have I done to indicate that I am a bigot? This is your big chance to explain your point and spare us all more smileys.

 

[Ozmar]

Interesting theory:

The real issue regarding Obama's birth certificate is not his birth place, but his adopted name. In Hawaii, birth certificates are amended if a child is adopted and has a change of name. Obama's legal name may actually be Barry Soetero.

heh.

The fact that Obama was adopted by Indonesian Lolo Soetoro in the 1970s, and his name was legally changed to Barry Soetoro at that time, is most likely the reason he is spending millions of dollars to hide his birth certificate. He never filed the papers to change his name back to “Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.”, so any birth certificate produced by the state of Hawaii would list him as “Barry Soetoro”.

It’s easy to see why he never wants this to come to light. Aside from the legal ramifications of this, how would the American people feel about Obama lying to them about his NAME all this time? And if he lied about something as simple as that, what else has he lied about? It would open a whole host of new questions for most people about this man of deliberate mystery.

(snip)

I honestly and truly believe this solves the entire mystery.

It is seriously this straightforward.

* Obama was indeed born in Hawaii in 1961

* Obama was indeed adopted by Lolo Soetoro in the 1970s

* Obama’s name was indeed changed to Barry Soetoro in the 1970s

* Obama’s birth certificate was altered per Hawaiian law to reflect his new name in the 1970s

* Obama never changed his name back to “Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.” — most likely because he used “Barry Soetoro” on all of his student aid applications for college, and probably received foreign student grants and admissions assistance playing off his years living in Indonesia

* All the records, transcripts, documents, and paperwork Obama continues to hide from the public is all hidden because it lists his name as “Barry Soetoro” on all of it.

* Obama will not allow his birth certificate to be released because it lists the “wrong” name on it: Barry Soetoro

It is as simple as this, folks....

HAWAII GROUND REPORT: Could Hawaiian Governor Neil Abercrombie not be as incompetent and foolish as he appears, but orchestrating a deliberate birth certificate recovery dead end to cover his own papakole? UPDATED: Mystery solved! Reason Obama will n

I smell a conspiracy theory!

And it belongs here:

 

[Ozmar]

BTE, WTF is this thread doing in a forum devoted to LEGITIMATE political discussion? Just an aside...