Obama's African cousin

[ScreamingEagle]

This is pertinent because it shows us who Obama associates with and it gives us a better idea of what Obama is really all about. This is pertinent because Obama has belonged to an African-centered church for twenty years. This is pertinent because Obama has supported his cousin in his political endeavors with visits and phone calls. Obama made his third trip to Kenya in 2007 to visit and campaign for his cousin. That was when the infamous picture of Obama was taken dressed in African Muslim dress.

Who is Obama's cousin in Africa? His name is Raila Odinga and he is a politician in Kenya - which is the homeland of Obama's father.

Odinga is a cousin of American Senator and presidential candidate Barack Hussein Obama through the latter's father, Barack Obama Sr., who Odinga claims was his maternal uncle.[25] Obama Sr. did come from the same Luo tribe as Odinga.[25]. Senator Barack Hussein Obama supported his older half-brother Abongo Obama, a militant muslim leader of the Luo tribe of Barack Obama's family and campaigned for his uncle, Raila Odinga during his 2006 visit to Kenya, where the famous picture of Barack in a turbin was taken from.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raila_Odinga

Raila Odinga ran for President of Kenya but lost to the incumbent in December 2007. The election was disputed. In protest riots and civil war ensued. Many have been killed including women and children burned in a church and Christians macheted in the streets. Finally in a power-brokering agreement Raila Odinga was appointed to be Prime Minister, a position that never existed before. However the violence continues, mostly by Odinga's followers.

Raila Odinga is " Labelled an anti-conformist, dictatorial, a party-hopper and a party wrecker who is the anti-thesis to the Midas Touch -- every party he touches disintegrates -- Mr Odinga has always tried to explain himself, saying that he changes parties when he fails to agree with other officials."
http://allafrica.com/stories/200803240329.html?page=2

Raila Odinga is a Marxist. His father was a Communist. His son is named Fidel, after Fidel Castro.

Raila has close ties to an oil big shot: Sheik Abdullahi Abdi who chairs NAMLEF (National Muslim Leaders Forum)

Raila Odinga had campaign backing by Libyan socialist leader Muammar al-Gaddafi.

It is purported that Odinga made a pact with Islamics to institute Sharia law in Kenya if he received their political support. Kenya is a country primarily consisting of Christians.

Raila's website is similar to Obama's website….his main campaign message and slogan is CHANGE.

http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/31226.html

 

[nibor]

This is pertinent because it shows us who Obama associates with and it gives us a better idea of what Obama is really all about. This is pertinent because Obama has belonged to an African-centered church for twenty years. This is pertinent because Obama has supported his cousin in his political endeavors with visits and phone calls. Obama made his third trip to Kenya in 2007 to visit and campaign for his cousin. That was when the infamous picture of Obama was taken dressed in African Muslim dress.

Who is Obama's cousin in Africa? His name is Raila Odinga and he is a politician in Kenya - which is the homeland of Obama's father.



Raila Odinga ran for President of Kenya but lost to the incumbent in December 2007. The election was disputed. In protest riots and civil war ensued. Many have been killed including women and children burned in a church and Christians macheted in the streets. Finally in a power-brokering agreement Raila Odinga was appointed to be Prime Minister, a position that never existed before. However the violence continues, mostly by Odinga's followers.

Raila Odinga is " Labelled an anti-conformist, dictatorial, a party-hopper and a party wrecker who is the anti-thesis to the Midas Touch -- every party he touches disintegrates -- Mr Odinga has always tried to explain himself, saying that he changes parties when he fails to agree with other officials."
http://allafrica.com/stories/200803240329.html?page=2

Raila Odinga is a Marxist. His father was a Communist. His son is named Fidel, after Fidel Castro.

Raila has close ties to an oil big shot: Sheik Abdullahi Abdi who chairs NAMLEF (National Muslim Leaders Forum)

Raila Odinga had campaign backing by Libyan socialist leader Muammar al-Gaddafi.

It is purported that Odinga made a pact with Islamics to institute Sharia law in Kenya if he received their political support. Kenya is a country primarily consisting of Christians.

Raila's website is similar to Obama's website….his main campaign message and slogan is CHANGE.

http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/31226.html

We are in SOME SHIT!!!!!!!!

 

[ScreamingEagle]

We are in SOME SHIT!!!!!!!!

Ain't that the truth....the more I learn about Obama's past and present and his ideas for the future....the more I fear for America...

...and wonder how the hell he ever got this far...

 

[Shogun]

it's probably a satanic liberal conspiracy. I think I read about how this little drama begins somewhere in the last book of the bible.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

it's probably a satanic liberal conspiracy. I think I read about how this little drama begins somewhere in the last book of the bible.

No, this is not a "conspiracy".

This is a real-life, actual friend/cousin of Obama - someone who Obama supports.

 

[Shogun]

oh I know, dude.. He probably claims to offer peace for seven years too.


You HAVE read the left behind series, havent you?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

oh I know, dude.. He probably claims to offer peace for seven years too.


You HAVE read the left behind series, havent you?

What exactly are you alluding to? Yes, I've read the Left Behind books.

 

[Gunny]

I moved this thread back to Politics because I don't see a "conspiracy theory."

However, I'd like to see some facts/links to back up the statements presented as fact in regard to Obama, and that he supports his cousin, and in what way.

 

[blunt]

oops

 

[ScreamingEagle]

I moved this thread back to Politics because I don't see a "conspiracy theory."

However, I'd like to see some facts/links to back up the statements presented as fact in regard to Obama, and that he supports his cousin, and in what way.

Thank you.

Obama has been mum on the subject (not hard to see why- given recent developments) and with the support of the media blackout on the subject he can get away with it.

This is a report from the BBC that indicates Obama's trip to Kenya to support Odinga:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7176683.stm

Following is another report exerpt on Obama and his cousin/friend from Global Politician which is an independent journal of politics and world affairs which has professionally-trained reporters and analysts from around the world. David Storobin is the Editor-in-Chief (and former editor of the Eurasian Politician out of Finland) and he's also a practicing New York attorney (Rutgers School of Law-2002). Mr. Storobin has been interviewed on the radio and cited in books as a political and legal expert.

What You Don't Know About Obama Can Hurt The Nation
Ted Belman - 3/23/2008
http://globalpolitician.com/24312-elections
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Odinga, the communist Muslim revolutionary in Kenya

In August, 2006 US Senator Barack Obama [D-IL] made a special trip to visit a special man in Kenya. The man’s name was Raila Amolo Odinga. [(who signed a Shariah pact with Muslims and claims to be Obama’s cousin)] He is the head of the National Muslim Leaders Forum [NAMLEF] in Kenya. The political party he heads is called the Orange Democratic Movement [ODM]—although there is definitely nothing democratic about his political party of NAMLEF. The ODM is dedicated to overthrowing the legitimate democratic government of Kenya. Odinga is not really concerned how he achieves his objective. It matters little to him if he assumes power through a
free election—or by revolution. But, by hook or crook, he is determined to become the president of Kenya. If he succeeds, he will be president for life and Kenya will become another Afghanistan.

Obama’s brother Abongo ‘Roy’ Obama who is a Luo activist and a militant Muslim [fighting with Odinqa] argues that the black man must ‘liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture.’ Obama wrote in Dreams From My Father , ‘Abongo’s new lifestyle has left him lean and clear-eyed, and at the wedding, he looked so dignified in his black African gown with white trim and matching cap that so me of our guests mistook him for my father,’.

When the US Senator visited Kenya to meet with Odinga in Nairobi, the Kenyan government officially denounced the visit. And, most specifically, they denounced Obama. According to a Kenyan government spokesman, Obama’s bias for his friend was so blatant that the government found it necessary to complain that Obama appeared to be Odinga’s stooge. Not only did Obama campaign for his Islamic friend, he convinced former Clinton adviser Dick Morris to become Odinga’s campaign adviser.

Odinga bothers the US State Department for a couple of reasons. First, after losing the democratic election on December 27, Raila Odinga cut a deal for support from Vladimir Putin and the former Soviet Union. Odinga knows he has to overthrow the government to gain power. When he lost the election, he protested that the vote was rigged to keep him from claiming an election he won. He incited his tribal followers to go on a murderous rampage in towns that were primarily Christian. Throughout Kenya, hundreds of people were murdered. What shocked the west is that the Kenyan media—and the political power brokers within the country—out of fear of Odinga, appear to be suggesting that perhaps the election should be held over to stop the violence and the potential for long term Muslim terrorism.

In a wave of violence aimed at protesting what they call the illegal election of newly-elected Kenyan President Mwai Kibaki, a group of Christian women and children—some entire families—barricaded themselves in a church. Muslims, inflamed by Odinga’s men, torched the church and burned to death everyone inside. This is the man Obama campaigned for in Kenya, and sang the praises of. This is also the man who claims that Barack Obama is a close, personal friend. Christianity would be outlawed.

[My own research indicates that the elections held in December were not legitimate and early polls had indicated an Odinga victory. So Odinga was right in fighting back. The US has pushed for a compromise and a coalition agreement has now been agreed to between Kibakki and Odinga which appoints Odinga as Prime Minister. Facts are facts. Mar ‘08 ]


The following quotes are taken from Obama’s books.

“The person who made me proudest of all, though, was [half brother] Roy .. He converted to Islam.”

“Lolo (Obama’s step father) followed a brand of Islam ….”I looked to Lolo for guidance”.

“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

“In Indonesia, I had spent two years at a Muslim school” “I studied the Koran..”

” FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASIVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER’S RACE”

This is from a man who obviously is troubled by his mixed racial background. He has animosity towards whites and is partial to Muslims. He emphasizes

Their (his friends) confusion made me question my own racial credentials all over again. … To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets. (pages 99-100)

If nationalism could create a strong and effective insularity, deliver on its promise of self-respect, then the hurt it might cause well-meaning whites, or the inner turmoil it caused people like me, would be of little consequence.

It seems to me that Obama and his Pastor are totally in sync. The Muslims, Palestinians and the blacks belonging to Wright’s church, all consider themselves oppressed by the white man and/or the Jew. They have found common cause with the Left in fighting America.

Not only, is Obama part black and part white, he is also part Muslim and part Christian and part African, part American. To “avoid being mistaken for a sellout” to the whites, he became a black nationalist.

I do not consider Obama a radical Islamist. But I do consider him to be a greater danger. If he would be the former, he wouldn’t come to power. If on the other hand he says “can’t we all just get along” he will be well received by many.

Obama is on the far left of the political spectrum. This includes the anti-war communist crowd, the anti-Israel crowd, the anti-American crowd, the pro-Palestinian crowd, the MoveOn.Org crowd, and the Islamic rapproachment crowd. That’s why I fear the change he would bring. I want no part of it.

 

[Shogun]

 

[Dr Grump]

Sorry Gunny, this sooooo belongs in the conspiracy theory section...

 

[Gunny]

Sorry Gunny, this sooooo belongs in the conspiracy theory section...

Howso? What's the conspiracy theory?

Obama and Odinga are cousins at best, from the same tribe at least. Obama supported Odinga's bid for power in Kenya.

Those are documented facts. So where's the conspiracy theory?

By your reasoning, I can justify moving every "Bush lied" thread there.

That is not the purpose of that forum. It is for universally accepted conspiracy theories.

Obama and/or his supporters have YET to answer any REAL questions, deflecting to and hiding behind his race. It's like the left just refuses to look at their own candidate, and refuse to let anyone else either.

Obama has some questionable associations, and they should be questions. Flip-side of the coin is a GOP candidate can't even take a contribution from someone who is a racist without automatically being relegated to racist status as well by the left.

Treat your own the same.

 

[DeadCanDance]

Wow.

Bush lovers are desperate to talk about anything besides Iraq, the economy and healthcare.

Some guy in africa may, or may not be, Obama's cousin. I am LMAO.

 

[Dr Grump]

The only documented fact is that they are cousins. That's about it. All the rest is conjecture.

Dennis Wilson from the Beach Boys once met Charles Manson. Doesn't mean Wilson supports murder. Really is a long bow!

 

[jillian]

The only documented fact is that they are cousins. That's about it. All the rest is conjecture.

Dennis Wilson from the Beach Boys once met Charles Manson. Doesn't mean Wilson supports murder. Really is a long bow!

Exactly right.....

but it's about Obama, so no proof necessary for the loonies.

 

[midcan5]

Sorry Gunny, this sooooo belongs in the conspiracy theory section...

I agree, this is a witch hunt for anything that can used to label Obama, everything that is except his real record.

Gunny, If you are going to place some of Eots posts in conspiracy thinking, I think this sort of inane nonsense belongs there too. Maybe we need yet another sub form: Speculative Crap from Wackos."

 

[DeadCanDance]

The only documented fact is that they are cousins. That's about it. All the rest is conjecture.

snip!

That's not even a documented fact.

The link states that this guy claims to be Obama's cousin. I didn't see any independent confirmation of that, other than the fact that the dude does come from Obama's tribe. Which doesn't mean much.

 

[Gunny]

Wow.

Bush lovers are desperate to talk about anything besides Iraq, the economy and healthcare.

Some guy in africa may, or may not be, Obama's cousin. I am LMAO.

Wow. Moron trolls infatuated with Bush can't talk about anything BUT their little dream crap regarding Iraq, the economy and healthcare.

Just in case you missed it, Bushisn't running for office, oh bright one, and nobody gives a damn about your worn-out crap but you and any other 'tard that thinks like you.

 

[Gunny]

The only documented fact is that they are cousins. That's about it. All the rest is conjecture.

Dennis Wilson from the Beach Boys once met Charles Manson. Doesn't mean Wilson supports murder. Really is a long bow!

You might want to look again, if you've looked at all. I saw no documented fact that they were cousins. Only Odinga's claim that they were. Obama has yet to comment.

What IS documented fact is that Obama has supported Odinga politically.