Obama's 26% Strong Approval

I remember someone predicting that P-BO would never go below 30% approval because no president before has. I think he's working hard towards that. Regardless, after 2010, he's going to have no political power left with approval ratings dropping so low.

No president has gone below 30 percent? Bush spend most of his last two years in office under 30 percent.
Then I'm proven wrong on that point. I guess the predictor that Obama can't go beneath that are wrong too.
 
Fitz et al continue to stagger along in strangeville. One, Obama is much stronger in the eyes of the public than is the GOP. Two, the health bill will pass. Three, the Dems will retain control of Congress and the Presidency. Fourth, the economy will be in full recovery before 1 Jan 2012. The GOP will be wandering in the political wilderness for a long, long time if we don't jettison the reactionary wing nuts on the loony fringe of the party.

I don't think it matters that Obama polls better than the GOP. The midterms will be about how people feel about the general direction, and if that's negative, it's going to be a bad night for Democrats. However, the Democrats will retain both houses.
I remember you predicting that before, but with the failing economy in the job and housing markets, combined with the real fear of depression (which is all but inevitable now as well) foreclosure and layoffs, negative is about the only outcome left unless something totally miraculous occurs.
 
Fitz et al continue to stagger along in strangeville. One, Obama is much stronger in the eyes of the public than is the GOP. Two, the health bill will pass. Three, the Dems will retain control of Congress and the Presidency. Fourth, the economy will be in full recovery before 1 Jan 2012. The GOP will be wandering in the political wilderness for a long, long time if we don't jettison the reactionary wing nuts on the loony fringe of the party.

I don't think it matters that Obama polls better than the GOP. The midterms will be about how people feel about the general direction, and if that's negative, it's going to be a bad night for Democrats. However, the Democrats will retain both houses.

I remember you predicting that before, but with the failing economy in the job and housing markets, combined with the real fear of depression (which is all but inevitable now as well) foreclosure and layoffs, negative is about the only outcome left unless something totally miraculous occurs.

It's also about degree. I think this election will compare most closely to 1982. Economy pulling out of recession, but still sluggish. The out-party gained 27 House seats that year and one Senate seat.
 
When he loses Congress... which is all but inevitable now, he gets nothing done. Happened to Bill Clinton too.

What makes you think he will lose Congress?

What if God is punishing this country and we are doomed to 70 years of Democratic Control aka The Deepest Pits of Hell?

Immie
Country won't survive 70 years of socialist/fascist rule. It will fall apart into civil war in 10 or less.

I agree it won't survive 70 years of socialist rule, but then I am expecting major changes regardless of what the President does or does not do. This country is too divided and I believe only a miracle can change that.

The fascist rule (corporate state partnership) was during the Bush years. The outsourcing of the Iraqi war to Halliburton is a primary, but certainly not the only, example. The fascists in my party were defeated last year.

I don't agree with you often but regarding the statement above about the Bush admin, I would agree.

I would not, however, agree with you that the socialists of your party were defeated last year. In fact, they were lauded.

You and I have different ideas on what is best for America. I don't think government control of our production is a good thing and you think complete government control is heaven. On that we will never agree.

Immie
 
I remember someone predicting that P-BO would never go below 30% approval because no president before has. I think he's working hard towards that. Regardless, after 2010, he's going to have no political power left with approval ratings dropping so low.

Yes no political power when you lead the party that controls Congress and the White House, are the leader of the free world and have an opposition party that has approval ratings in the 20s
When he loses Congress... which is all but inevitable now, he gets nothing done. Happened to Bill Clinton too.

And like I said elsewhere, the Republicans found out the hard way that even if they control Congress, the Prez is still the Prez.
 
Economy pulling out of recession, but still sluggish.

I could use some reason for optimism. Where are we getting the money from to help pull us out of the current economic death spiral we're in? What policies are being pushed forth that will reverse the job losses?
 
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Wow...thats super interesting!

Too bad Obama only needs 20% approval to beat the crap out of whatever stiff the GOP picks to run
The President and you cheap hacks better be worrying about Hillary, who is enjoying an across the board 70% favorability rating. Obama might not even win the nomination of his own party come 2012.

THAT would be historic.
 
Economy pulling out of recession, but still sluggish.

I could use some reason for optimism. Where are we getting the money from to help pull us out of the current economic death spiral we're in? What policies are being pushed forth that will reverse the job losses?

As a business owner, I can say one thing for sure. There are no policies or initiatives being discussed that will prompt me to hire anyone. There are many, however, that give me reason to hold off hiring.

Right now, the cost of an employee is salary plus 18%....with cap and trade and healthcare on the table, the cost to hire may increase to as much as 34% of salary....so a 30K employee will cost me as much as 40,000....and in a recession, for me to hire, I need the cost to hire to decrease....not increase.....as the revenue attributed to each employee has been steadily decreasing over the last 2 years.

The "capital gains tax elimination" for one year is a farce. Not too many of us are worried about capital gains for the year 2010....we will be happy to minimize our losses.

So anyone who says that the capital gains tax elimination for a year is a compromise by the President....it is typical smoke and mirrors as seems to be quite the norm for this administration.
 
I remember someone predicting that P-BO would never go below 30% approval because no president before has. I think he's working hard towards that. Regardless, after 2010, he's going to have no political power left with approval ratings dropping so low.

Probably the same people who told us unemployment wouldn't rise above 8% if we passed the Porkulus Bill.

Harry Truman had terrible poll numbers when he left office. Now he is everyone's hero. They are largely meaningless except as a measure of how much he can get done. Which is to say not much. And that's a good thing.
 
Economy pulling out of recession, but still sluggish.

I could use some reason for optimism. Where are we getting the money from to help pull us out of the current economic death spiral we're in? What policies are being pushed forth that will reverse the job losses?

My statement isn't really that optimist. It's projecting that things simply aren't getting worse. We're not in a "death spiral". GDP grew last quarter and appears to have do so this quarter. The job market has somewhat stabilized, but growth has yet to return. This economy is most likely at the beginning of recovery, as fragile as it may be.
 
GDP grew last quarter and appears to have do so this quarter.

Yes, almost exclusively government spending based. When the government runs out of money, very soon again... what then? Their policies are anti-business. They are only delaying the inevitable. It's like putting the plane into a power dive to get up enough speed to begin to glide again... the engines still aren't running.

The job market has somewhat stabilized, but growth has yet to return.

Right, because of fears from nationalized health care, corporate takeovers, punative Cap and Trade tax and anti-profit mentalities. Nobody's going to expand or bring back employees they know they can't keep.

This economy is most likely at the beginning of recovery, as fragile as it may be.

Due to the above reasons, that is why this is, in my opinion, a sucker's rally based on government spending that's making matters worse.
 
The Gallup tracking poll has President Obama's approval right where it was back in August.

(that would be over 4 months ago) If you believed the wingnut noise over that time period you'd think his poll numbers were in the 20's, aka, Bush territory.
 
I saw Obama on TV today the poor fellow is looking pooped...

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 26% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-one percent (41%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -15 (see trends).

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports™
26% eh?

Figures. The mouth-foaming, wild-eyed, knuckle-dragging, ass-scratching, shit-flinging.....

Was that Nancey that just went by? Uh...were was I? Oh yeah.

.... sign-carrying crazy assed freedom destroying assholes support Mr. Obama......

I don't see how this is news....There has always been a hardcore radical element of the left wing.....
 
The darkwinds wish to return us to the dark days of cheney and bush, thus darkwinds merely give off irrelevant static. Let's move on.
 
The democrats could run a dead candidate against your candidate (a la John Ashcroft) and still win.

That's how relevant you are to the living: you aren't.
 
The 'strong approval' concoction by Rasmussen is hilarious. Leave to the right's asskisser pollster to manufacture another oddball manipulation of the numbers in order to be able to headline a lower number for Obama.
 

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