Obamacare

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Do we need another failed political fanticy like Obamacare shoved on us

The plan you linked to is, essentially, another political fantasy like Obamacare. And it's exactly what the Republicans will serve up as an "alternative" to ACA, if we're dumb enough to elect them.

Not exactly

It's rebranding the same basic idea. It replaces mandates with tax incentives which is the same thing under a different name.

Actually, re-reading, it's worse. It leaves the mandate in place, but removes guaranteed issue. That's insane.

The only guarantees you have 28th Obama are is you will pay the high premiums. There is no guarantee if you have a claim it won't be denied.

???

 

[froggy]

Do we need another failed political fanticy like Obamacare shoved on us

Rubio's plan is pretty much a fantasy if he can't get both Congress and the insurers to go along with it. :shrug:

So why don't we make the gov't stay outta the insurance business

Will you refuse Medicare when you turn 65?

Do we need another failed political fanticy like Obamacare shoved on us

Rubio's plan is pretty much a fantasy if he can't get both Congress and the insurers to go along with it. :shrug:

So why don't we make the gov't stay outta the insurance business

Will you refuse Medicare when you turn 65?

I've been paying for that every week

But its government insurance. Surely as a protest you'd want to refuse to accept it.

You're right. But I'm sure I could manage

 

[Arianrhod]

The only guarantees you have with Obama are is you will pay the high premiums. There is no guarantee if you have a claim it won't be denied.

(A) If you're paying high premiums, you're doing it wrong
(B) If your insurer denies a claim, you have more recourse under the PPACA

You're right. But I'm sure I could manage

Manage without Medicare coverage, or manage to deny your principles and accept Medicare?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Why Obamacare fails poor and middle class - CNN.com

The law already forced termination of health insurance for millions of Americans estimated as 4.7 million by the Associated Press -- insurance they personally had chosen to buy. The Congressional Budget Office now projects that a stunning 10 million Americans will be forced off their chosen employer-based health insurance by 2021 -- a tenfold increase in the number that was initially projected back in 2011, at the onset of the law.
Along with that forced change of coverage, many suddenly find themselves without access to their chosen doctors.
Despite the assertion that the law increases insurance choices, the Obamacare exchanges do quite the opposite for those dependent on them and their government's subsidies. McKinsey reported 68% of Obamacare insurance options only cover narrow or very narrow provider networks, double that of the previous year.
For cancer care, the majority of America's best hospitals in the National Comprehensive Cancer Network are not covered in most of their states' exchange plans. The "narrow network" strategy is about to hit even more Americans in 2015, as Obamacare exchanges from California to New Hampshire further restrict access to top doctors and hospitals in an attempt to quell insurance premium increases caused by the law itself, according to an analysis by the Los Angeles Times.
And a study in late 2014 commissioned by the prestigious American Heart Association determined that the specialists essential to diagnose and treat stroke, one of the most disabling and lethal diseases in the United States, are in severe shortage under Obamacare insurance exchange plans.
Indeed, unless one has the financial resources or power to skirt the new system, many of America's top doctors and hospitals are no longer available.

It's great that quoting the CBO is now considered "an opinion piece".

Of course, this was countered by a "primary source"....only she forgot to post it.

 

[Arianrhod]

It's great that quoting the CBO is now considered "an opinion piece".

Look at the URL. It says "opinion."

Why are y'all averse to citing the CBO itself?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Obamacare Profits Health Insurance Companies While Hurting Some Consumers

And yet another example.

Robin dumbasshood at work.

During the past three years, many Americans have been feeling the financial relief that Obamacare was meant to provide. However, many other Americans, like Terri Corcoran of Falls Church, Va., have been feeling the pain of increased premium rates. What's bad for many consumers, though, spells good news for insurance companies reaping the financial benefits of these payments.
Corcoran says her health insurance premiums doubled under Affordable Care Act (ACA) to almost $600 a month. “I used to get a policy with a high deductible -- so lower premiums -- because I didn't have many medical expenses,” Corcoran says.