And another disgraceful RW BS thread bites the dust...where'd the hater dupes go lol?
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Obamacare premiums skyrocketing 78%!
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You had a scam policy if you got really ill, you live in a red state with no competition in the exchange, prices doubled on average just under Booosh so this is nothing new.All experts who aren't paid off say the cost curve has already gone down, and will continue- it's just not a big lie blared endlessly by lying Pubs and loudmouth hater dupes...
Link for Obama admitting he was wrong?
Thanks for all the out of context 4 second clips- but he often said "when fully implemented", "down the road", etc etc. PFFFFT!
I don't care that you are drowning in a pool of long debunked fallacies, two year old talking points and creative math, but you should really try watching the news sometimes. Seriously, how do you not know that Obama apologized for being wrong?
OP=bsACA state exchanges
By contrast, the average premium increase across all reporting states is 5.9% and the average premium is $382.
Obamacare sends health premiums skyrocketing by as much as 78 percent - Washington Times
Ok liberals, we took your advice and voted for Obama to give us Obamacare in order to fix health care, so I think the only sensible thing to do now is to listen to you again and vote for a single payer system to fix it.
Sound about right you moronic, lying, pieces of filth?
So, you're basing your assumptions on the Moonie Times? Maybe you should broaden your information base.
Don't mince words. Tell them what you really think....Obamacare sends health premiums skyrocketing by as much as 78 percent - Washington Times
Ok liberals, we took your advice and voted for Obama to give us Obamacare in order to fix health care, so I think the only sensible thing to do now is to listen to you again and vote for a single payer system to fix it.
Sound about right you moronic, lying, pieces of filth?
You had a scam policy if you got really ill, you live in a red state with no competition in the exchange, prices doubled on average just under Booosh so this is nothing new.All experts who aren't paid off say the cost curve has already gone down, and will continue- it's just not a big lie blared endlessly by lying Pubs and loudmouth hater dupes...
Link for Obama admitting he was wrong?
Thanks for all the out of context 4 second clips- but he often said "when fully implemented", "down the road", etc etc. PFFFFT!
I don't care that you are drowning in a pool of long debunked fallacies, two year old talking points and creative math, but you should really try watching the news sometimes. Seriously, how do you not know that Obama apologized for being wrong?
We were talking about the $2500 saving "when fully implemented"....
On this one, he should have said "if you knew your plan suqed" and "weren't a Pub/insurer dupe". And insurance plans/hospital networks have been taking away your doctor for years...
5.9% rise is NOTHING for guaranteed care, annual caps, and no more losing everything you have. Our media suqs. They should try journalism...
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Whenever I go to the HC website and run the numbers for myself the estimate has increased. When I honestly and accurately state my income and address the estimated monthly payment is so far above what I can afford I just shake my head in sadness.
There is nothing affordable in this plan unless you're jobless and destitute and can have the federal government subsidize all or part of your cost. That makes it a welfare plan not a healthcare insurance plan.
The only way I can afford to sign up for Obama care is to lie and say I earn less than I do. It appears that my government would prefer that I go on a welfare plan rather than take care of myself.
That's not America.....
There is nothing affordable in this plan unless you're jobless and destitute and can have the federal government subsidize all or part of your cost. That makes it a welfare plan not a healthcare insurance plan.
The only way I can afford to sign up for Obama care is to lie and say I earn less than I do. It appears that my government would prefer that I go on a welfare plan rather than take care of myself.
That's not America.....
Are you able to get a subsidy? My doctor didn't know about them March 2014...lolWhenever I go to the HC website and run the numbers for myself the estimate has increased. When I honestly and accurately state my income and address the estimated monthly payment is so far above what I can afford I just shake my head in sadness.
There is nothing affordable in this plan unless you're jobless and destitute and can have federal government subsidized all or part of your cost. That makes it a welfare plan not a healthcare insurance plan.
The only way I can afford to sign up for Obama care is to lie and say I earn less than I do. It appears that my government would prefer that I go on a welfare plan rather than take care of myself.
That's not America.....
Look on the bright side obama supporters one day it will all come down and you will not have to defend obamacarelie anymore, that is if you live and are alive the week after the fall.
Subsidy paid for by the TAX PAYERS you dumb fuck.Are you able to get a subsidy? My doctor didn't know about them March 2014...lolWhenever I go to the HC website and run the numbers for myself the estimate has increased. When I honestly and accurately state my income and address the estimated monthly payment is so far above what I can afford I just shake my head in sadness.
There is nothing affordable in this plan unless you're jobless and destitute and can have federal government subsidized all or part of your cost. That makes it a welfare plan not a healthcare insurance plan.
The only way I can afford to sign up for Obama care is to lie and say I earn less than I do. It appears that my government would prefer that I go on a welfare plan rather than take care of myself.
That's not America.....
Wanna bet? Only total hater dupes want to repeal...30%
Duh- And a great deal for them in comparison to our ER care/die in the gutter/go bankrupt and lose everything Pub plan.Subsidy paid for by the TAX PAYERS you dumb fuck.Are you able to get a subsidy? My doctor didn't know about them March 2014...lolWhenever I go to the HC website and run the numbers for myself the estimate has increased. When I honestly and accurately state my income and address the estimated monthly payment is so far above what I can afford I just shake my head in sadness.
There is nothing affordable in this plan unless you're jobless and destitute and can have federal government subsidized all or part of your cost. That makes it a welfare plan not a healthcare insurance plan.
The only way I can afford to sign up for Obama care is to lie and say I earn less than I do. It appears that my government would prefer that I go on a welfare plan rather than take care of myself.
That's not America.....
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 41% of Likely U.S. Voters have a favorable opinion of the health care law, while 53% view it unfavorably. This includes 16% who have a Very Favorable view versus 38% with a Very Unfavorable oneWanna bet? Only total hater dupes want to repeal...30%
You are a fucking liar unless you are including illegalsDuh- And a great deal for them in comparison to our ER care/die in the gutter/go bankrupt and lose everything Pub plan.Subsidy paid for by the TAX PAYERS you dumb fuck.Are you able to get a subsidy? My doctor didn't know about them March 2014...lolWhenever I go to the HC website and run the numbers for myself the estimate has increased. When I honestly and accurately state my income and address the estimated monthly payment is so far above what I can afford I just shake my head in sadness.
There is nothing affordable in this plan unless you're jobless and destitute and can have federal government subsidized all or part of your cost. That makes it a welfare plan not a healthcare insurance plan.
The only way I can afford to sign up for Obama care is to lie and say I earn less than I do. It appears that my government would prefer that I go on a welfare plan rather than take care of myself.
That's not America.....
Yup, 30% want to repeal it, 20% want single payer.
Pubs are liars, you are duped, I am right.
Pubs are liars, you are duped, I am right.
11 facts about the Affordable Care Act - The Washington Post
www.washingtonpost.com/.../11-facts-about-the-aff...
The Washington Post
Jun 24, 2012 - This calculator from the Kaiser Family Foundation will let you see the ... The law is expected to spend a bit over $1 trillion in the next 10 years. ... which fall on Medicare -- and tax increases are expected to either save or raise a ...
Study: Obamacare could save US businesses $3.25 trillion ...
www.wsws.org/en/articles/.../obam-m07.html
World Socialist Web Site
May 7, 2014 - A new study finds that the Affordable Care Act (ACA) will save US businesses $3.25 trillion through 2025, largely through ending ...
Updated Estimates of the Effects of the Insurance Coverage ...
Updated Estimates of the Effects of the Insurance Coverage Provisions of the Affordable Care Act April 2014 Congressional Budget Office
Congressional Budget Office
Apr 14, 2014 - ... of the ACA's insurance coverage provisions—to $1.4 trillion over the ... CBO and JCT now estimate that the ACA's coverage provisions will ...
CBO's Estimate of the Net Budgetary Impact of the ...
CBO s Estimate of the Net Budgetary Impact of the Affordable Care Act s Health Insurance Coverage Provisions Has Not Changed Much Over Time Congressional Budget Office
Congressional Budget Office
May 14, 2013 - Taking the coverage provisions and other provisions together, CBO and JCT have estimated that the ACA will reduce deficits over the next 10 ...
Johnson exaggerates by describing the $1 trillion as “middle-income tax increases,” and he ignores the fact that the legislation will help millions of middle-income taxpayers buy insurance.
Let’s first look at who will pay most of the health care tab, which falls heavily on businesses and upper-income individual taxpayers.
The CBO letter to Boehner shows about $318 billion — a third of the $1 trillion in net revenues — would come from tax increases on upper-income taxpayers to help fund Medicare. (See Table 2, “Additional Hospital Insurance Tax.”) Beginning Jan. 1, taxpayers started paying an additional 0.9 percent Medicare tax on income above $200,000 (for individuals) and $250,000 (for families), and a 3.8 percent tax on investment earnings above those thresholds.
In addition to upper-income taxpayers, the law will impose new taxes and fees on businesses — particularly in the health care field. Another $165 billion in new revenue would come from an annual fee on drug manufacturers ($34.2 billion), a 2.3 percent excise tax on manufacturers and importers of some medical devices ($29.1 billion), and an annual fee on health insurance providers ($101.7 billion). (The revenue estimates for each industry come from a June 2012 JCT report used by the CBO for its report.)
In addition, the CBO says businesses that do not offer health insurance for their employees are expected to pay $106 billion in penalties over the 10-year period.
Those six provisions total $589 billion over 10 years. Two other changes in the business tax code push the total to more than $600 billion — about half of the $1.2 trillion in total new revenues.
This is not to say that some middle-income taxpayers won’t pay to help finance the expansion of health care for millions of Americans.
The CBO estimates that the law will raise about $106 billion from penalties on individuals who fail to buy insurance — the so-called “individual mandate.”
GOP Budget Revives 'Obamacare' Claims - FactCheck.org
GOP Budget Revives 8216 Obamacare 8217 Claims
FactCheck.org
Mar 12, 2013 - The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office says repealing the law will “reduce revenues by $1 trillion between 2013 and 2022,” meaning it ...
Deficit-Reducing Health Care Reform | The White House
The White House › The Administration
White House
In short, coverage expansion in the Affordable Care Act will benefit the nation's ... saving more than $200 billion over 10 years and more than $1 trillion in the ...
►
New study says Obamacare will save the government a lot ...
www.dailykos.com/.../-New-study-says-Obamacare-will-save-t...
Daily Kos
Oct 23, 2013 - That means the government will be saving money—a lot of ... Lower than projected premiums under the Affordable Care Act will ..... It is certainly in the trillions -----each year ----- Plus it would improve the health outcomes.
The Top Five Myths About the Affordable Care Act | the 2×2 ...
the2x2project.org/the-top-five-myths-about-the-affordable-care-act/
Myth #3: It's Going to Plunge Us Into More Debt and Cost Us Trillions ... In fact, the Congressional Budget Office projects the ACA will save us money and cut the .
www.washingtonpost.com/.../11-facts-about-the-aff...
The Washington Post
Jun 24, 2012 - This calculator from the Kaiser Family Foundation will let you see the ... The law is expected to spend a bit over $1 trillion in the next 10 years. ... which fall on Medicare -- and tax increases are expected to either save or raise a ...
Study: Obamacare could save US businesses $3.25 trillion ...
www.wsws.org/en/articles/.../obam-m07.html
World Socialist Web Site
May 7, 2014 - A new study finds that the Affordable Care Act (ACA) will save US businesses $3.25 trillion through 2025, largely through ending ...
Updated Estimates of the Effects of the Insurance Coverage ...
Updated Estimates of the Effects of the Insurance Coverage Provisions of the Affordable Care Act April 2014 Congressional Budget Office
Congressional Budget Office
Apr 14, 2014 - ... of the ACA's insurance coverage provisions—to $1.4 trillion over the ... CBO and JCT now estimate that the ACA's coverage provisions will ...
CBO's Estimate of the Net Budgetary Impact of the ...
CBO s Estimate of the Net Budgetary Impact of the Affordable Care Act s Health Insurance Coverage Provisions Has Not Changed Much Over Time Congressional Budget Office
Congressional Budget Office
May 14, 2013 - Taking the coverage provisions and other provisions together, CBO and JCT have estimated that the ACA will reduce deficits over the next 10 ...
Johnson exaggerates by describing the $1 trillion as “middle-income tax increases,” and he ignores the fact that the legislation will help millions of middle-income taxpayers buy insurance.
Let’s first look at who will pay most of the health care tab, which falls heavily on businesses and upper-income individual taxpayers.
The CBO letter to Boehner shows about $318 billion — a third of the $1 trillion in net revenues — would come from tax increases on upper-income taxpayers to help fund Medicare. (See Table 2, “Additional Hospital Insurance Tax.”) Beginning Jan. 1, taxpayers started paying an additional 0.9 percent Medicare tax on income above $200,000 (for individuals) and $250,000 (for families), and a 3.8 percent tax on investment earnings above those thresholds.
In addition to upper-income taxpayers, the law will impose new taxes and fees on businesses — particularly in the health care field. Another $165 billion in new revenue would come from an annual fee on drug manufacturers ($34.2 billion), a 2.3 percent excise tax on manufacturers and importers of some medical devices ($29.1 billion), and an annual fee on health insurance providers ($101.7 billion). (The revenue estimates for each industry come from a June 2012 JCT report used by the CBO for its report.)
In addition, the CBO says businesses that do not offer health insurance for their employees are expected to pay $106 billion in penalties over the 10-year period.
Those six provisions total $589 billion over 10 years. Two other changes in the business tax code push the total to more than $600 billion — about half of the $1.2 trillion in total new revenues.
This is not to say that some middle-income taxpayers won’t pay to help finance the expansion of health care for millions of Americans.
The CBO estimates that the law will raise about $106 billion from penalties on individuals who fail to buy insurance — the so-called “individual mandate.”
GOP Budget Revives 'Obamacare' Claims - FactCheck.org
GOP Budget Revives 8216 Obamacare 8217 Claims
FactCheck.org
Mar 12, 2013 - The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office says repealing the law will “reduce revenues by $1 trillion between 2013 and 2022,” meaning it ...
Deficit-Reducing Health Care Reform | The White House
The White House › The Administration
White House
In short, coverage expansion in the Affordable Care Act will benefit the nation's ... saving more than $200 billion over 10 years and more than $1 trillion in the ...
►
New study says Obamacare will save the government a lot ...
www.dailykos.com/.../-New-study-says-Obamacare-will-save-t...
Daily Kos
Oct 23, 2013 - That means the government will be saving money—a lot of ... Lower than projected premiums under the Affordable Care Act will ..... It is certainly in the trillions -----each year ----- Plus it would improve the health outcomes.
The Top Five Myths About the Affordable Care Act | the 2×2 ...
the2x2project.org/the-top-five-myths-about-the-affordable-care-act/
Myth #3: It's Going to Plunge Us Into More Debt and Cost Us Trillions ... In fact, the Congressional Budget Office projects the ACA will save us money and cut the .
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That's a lieYup, 30% want to repeal it, 20% want single payer.
Pubs are liars, you are duped, I am right.
ACA state exchanges
By contrast, the average premium increase across all reporting states is 5.9% and the average premium is $382.
Hhttp://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/05/11/cnn-poll-should-obamacare-be-kept-or-repealed/
Hardly, Pub dupe.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...=8qvHp53G-IymCBEnMns2zg&bvm=bv.78677474,d.cWc
Hardly, Pub dupe.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...=8qvHp53G-IymCBEnMns2zg&bvm=bv.78677474,d.cWc
''According to the poll, 61% want Congress to leave the Affordable Care Act alone (12%) or make some changes to the law in an attempt to make it work better (49%).
Thirty-eight percent of those questioned say the law should be repealed and replaced with a completely different system (18%) or say the measure should be repealed, with Americans going back to the system in place before the law was implemented (20%).
Two other surveys conducted earlier this year – Kaiser Family Foundation in April and National Public Radio in March – also indicated majority support for keeping and improving the law. Two others, (NBC News/Wall Street Journal in April and ABC News/Washington Post in March), suggested Americans were divided on whether to keep the measure or repeal it.
As expected, there is a wide partisan divide, with nearly nine in 10 Democrats saying the law should be kept as is, or improved. That number drops to 55% among independents and 38% among Republicans. More than six in 10 Republicans want the measure repealed.''
Thirty-eight percent of those questioned say the law should be repealed and replaced with a completely different system (18%) or say the measure should be repealed, with Americans going back to the system in place before the law was implemented (20%).
Two other surveys conducted earlier this year – Kaiser Family Foundation in April and National Public Radio in March – also indicated majority support for keeping and improving the law. Two others, (NBC News/Wall Street Journal in April and ABC News/Washington Post in March), suggested Americans were divided on whether to keep the measure or repeal it.
As expected, there is a wide partisan divide, with nearly nine in 10 Democrats saying the law should be kept as is, or improved. That number drops to 55% among independents and 38% among Republicans. More than six in 10 Republicans want the measure repealed.''
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