Obamacare Kicking In (And The People Like It So Far!!)

[DaGoose]

That's great ain't it. Adults a few years short of 30 can depend on mommy and daddy for health insurance. What happens when they grow up?

Exactly!!!



We are raising a generation of pussies!

And you should know. You're too much of a pussy to debate me in public so you chose to "neg" me for my OP in private instead. And for what? Just because I started a thread that you diagreed with? Well you can KMA pussy.

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[The Infidel]

Wait till the rest of Obamacare kicks in.

Wait till those with insurance see what its going to cost them to cover all those without.

Wonder if Goosey will be so high on Obamacare then.

Guess what? WE'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR THOSE W/O HEALTH CARE.

If someone who can afford HC chooses not to buy a policy goes to the ER the hospital is REQUIRED to treat them. And what happens? They can sue to get back a little of the costs but you and I will have to pay the rest of his or her bill.

By requiring one to purchase HC coverage he or she will have to the personal responsibility (remember those words?) to shoulder their fair share of the costs.

What do you have against requiring personal responsibility? I thought conservatives believed in that.

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yes...you and I will have to pay the rest of the bill.

We have been doing that for years...and I am fine with it as it is designed to help those that can NOT afford healthcare insurance and you will always have some people gaming the game...sort of like welfare...most NEED IT and prefer not to be on it...but we will not stop the system becuase of the few that dont need to be on it but take it anyway.

Why do you refer to the few that game the insurance game (with the ER) but when you talk about welfare you only refer to those that need it and not those that game the game?

Keep consistant goose...you are too good to play the Truthmatters hypocrisy game.

There is one thing left out here... we can absorb the cost of AMERICANS. As it stands and will be with Obamacare.... Illegals will be taken care of.
Get rid the criminal aliens and we can easily take care of OUR OWN CITIZENS!

But you are spot on Jarhead

 

[Jarhead]

thread title...



from the linked article...



Thread title is severely misleading.

How about this...

Do you like the fact that your children get to be on your policy free of charge until they are 26 years old?......

Answer:

Yes.

Do you like the fact that you can not be denied insurance due to pre existing conditions?

Answer:

Yes

So based on those two provisions ....sure it is preferred by all...

But soon the questions will be...

Do you mind that your premiums have gone up by 20%?
Do you mind being told by the government that you MUST spend your hard earned money on purchasing something you may never actually need?

Do you mind that the deficit is affected to thre tune of about 500 mrillion dollars even though you were promised that it was deficit neutral?

Do you mind having to switch your doctors becuase your insurance company can no longer afford to work with your existing doctors?

I bet the responses wont be as favorable.

Premiums were going up regardless..and at a much faster rate. Additionally this whole deal is a big boon to HMOs who actually like the mandate but hate the inability to kick people for pre-existing conditions.

And the Deficit Neutral thing actually because a deficit negative after 10 or so years when the savings kick in.

lets address this AFTER the rest kicks in.
To debate it now is nothing more than 2 guys saying what they think, not what they know.
Agreed?

 

[DaGoose]

Guess what? WE'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR THOSE W/O HEALTH CARE.

If someone who can afford HC chooses not to buy a policy goes to the ER the hospital is REQUIRED to treat them. And what happens? They can sue to get back a little of the costs but you and I will have to pay the rest of his or her bill.

By requiring one to purchase HC coverage he or she will have to the personal responsibility (remember those words?) to shoulder their fair share of the costs.

What do you have against requiring personal responsibility? I thought conservatives believed in that.

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yes...you and I will have to pay the rest of the bill.

We have been doing that for years...and I am fine with it as it is designed to help those that can NOT afford healthcare insurance and you will always have some people gaming the game...sort of like welfare...most NEED IT and prefer not to be on it...but we will not stop the system becuase of the few that dont need to be on it but take it anyway.

Why do you refer to the few that game the insurance game (with the ER) but when you talk about welfare you only refer to those that need it and not those that game the game?

Keep consistant goose...you are too good to play the Truthmatters hypocrisy game.

There is one thing left out here... we can absorb the cost of AMERICANS. As it stands and will be with Obamacare.... Illegals will be taken care of.
Get rid the criminal aliens and we can easily take care of OUR OWN CITIZENS!

But you are spot on Jarhead

Perry seems to be taking care of the illegals just fine though. Right pussy?

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[Jarhead]

yes...you and I will have to pay the rest of the bill.

We have been doing that for years...and I am fine with it as it is designed to help those that can NOT afford healthcare insurance and you will always have some people gaming the game...sort of like welfare...most NEED IT and prefer not to be on it...but we will not stop the system becuase of the few that dont need to be on it but take it anyway.

Why do you refer to the few that game the insurance game (with the ER) but when you talk about welfare you only refer to those that need it and not those that game the game?

Keep consistant goose...you are too good to play the Truthmatters hypocrisy game.

There is one thing left out here... we can absorb the cost of AMERICANS. As it stands and will be with Obamacare.... Illegals will be taken care of.
Get rid the criminal aliens and we can easily take care of OUR OWN CITIZENS!

But you are spot on Jarhead

Perry seems to be taking care of the illegals just fine though. Right pussy?

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Did I miss something?
Perry is President?
Perry voted for Obamacare?

Not often I see the starter of a thread divert from the topic itself.

 

[The Infidel]

That's great ain't it. Adults a few years short of 30 can depend on mommy and daddy for health insurance. What happens when they grow up?

Exactly!!!



We are raising a generation of pussies!

And you should know. You're too much of a pussy to debate me in public so you chose to "neg" me for my OP in private instead. And for what? Just because I started a thread that you diagreed with? Well you can KMA pussy.

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You stupid ass.... here is what I said in private "any 26 yr old on mommies insurance is a FUCKING PUSSY"

How does that differ with what I said in "public"?

 

[The Infidel]

Perry seems to be taking care of the illegals just fine though. Right pussy?

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Hmm... when did we start talking about Perry?

Besides, do some research... I have said it "publicly" here that I dont like his attitude on criminal aliens.

So again,

 

[AmericanFirst]

Wait till the rest of Obamacare kicks in.

Wait till those with insurance see what its going to cost them to cover all those without.

Wonder if Goosey will be so high on Obamacare then.

Guess what? WE'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR THOSE W/O HEALTH CARE.

If someone who can afford HC chooses not to buy a policy goes to the ER the hospital is REQUIRED to treat them. And what happens? They can sue to get back a little of the costs but you and I will have to pay the rest of his or her bill.

By requiring one to purchase HC coverage he or she will have to the personal responsibility (remember those words?) to shoulder their fair share of the costs.

What do you have against requiring personal responsibility? I thought conservatives believed in that.

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Obviously your thinking is screwed up just like all the other socialists. It is totally unconstitutional for the gov't. to mandate you buy a product or service. That is unless you are a libtard socialist like obamaturd, reid, pelosi and the other dimwits.

 

[DiamondDave]

Wait till the rest of Obamacare kicks in.

Wait till those with insurance see what its going to cost them to cover all those without.

Wonder if Goosey will be so high on Obamacare then.

Guess what? WE'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR THOSE W/O HEALTH CARE.

If someone who can afford HC chooses not to buy a policy goes to the ER the hospital is REQUIRED to treat them. And what happens? They can sue to get back a little of the costs but you and I will have to pay the rest of his or her bill.

By requiring one to purchase HC coverage he or she will have to the personal responsibility (remember those words?) to shoulder their fair share of the costs.

What do you have against requiring personal responsibility? I thought conservatives believed in that.

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Uhhh.. forced participation is not personal responsibility... what fucking drug ingesting universe are you living in??

 

[Jarhead]

Exactly!!!



We are raising a generation of pussies!

And you should know. You're too much of a pussy to debate me in public so you chose to "neg" me for my OP in private instead. And for what? Just because I started a thread that you diagreed with? Well you can KMA pussy.

.

You stupid ass.... here is what I said in private "any 26 yr old on mommies insurance is a FUCKING PUSSY"

How does that differ with what I said in "public"?

hey...my kid had his own insurance when he was 22....but when the law was passed what were we supposed to do? Stand on ceremonies and make him keep on paying 4000 a year or have him not renew his policy and put him back on mine for free?

He is not a pussy.....we are smart people...if my tax dollars are going to pay for a law....even if I disagree with the law, I may as well capitalize on it....if it is going to cost me, I want to save from it as much as it allows.

But my son is by no means a pussy. The kid started working at the age of 14...he knew how to bank up sheetrock SOLO by the age of 16...and he can take apart and put together any combustible engine....given the time to do so.

 

[DaGoose]

Exactly!!!



We are raising a generation of pussies!

And you should know. You're too much of a pussy to debate me in public so you chose to "neg" me for my OP in private instead. And for what? Just because I started a thread that you diagreed with? Well you can KMA pussy.

.

You stupid ass.... here is what I said in private "any 26 yr old on mommies insurance is a FUCKING PUSSY"

How does that differ with what I said in "public"?

On your knees pussy.

 

[DaGoose]

And you should know. You're too much of a pussy to debate me in public so you chose to "neg" me for my OP in private instead. And for what? Just because I started a thread that you diagreed with? Well you can KMA pussy.

.

You stupid ass.... here is what I said in private "any 26 yr old on mommies insurance is a FUCKING PUSSY"

How does that differ with what I said in "public"?

hey...my kid had his own insurance when he was 22....but when the law was passed what were we supposed to do? Stand on ceremonies and make him keep on paying 4000 a year or have him not renew his policy and put him back on mine for free?

He is not a pussy.....we are smart people...if my tax dollars are going to pay for a law....even if I disagree with the law, I may as well capitalize on it....if it is going to cost me, I want to save from it as much as it allows.

But my son is by no means a pussy. The kid started working at the age of 14...he knew how to bank up sheetrock SOLO by the age of 16...and he can take apart and put together any combustible engine....given the time to do so.

Infidels being a real dick today. More than usual anyway.

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[AmericanFirst]

Wait till the rest of Obamacare kicks in.

Wait till those with insurance see what its going to cost them to cover all those without.

Wonder if Goosey will be so high on Obamacare then.

Guess what? WE'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR THOSE W/O HEALTH CARE.

If someone who can afford HC chooses not to buy a policy goes to the ER the hospital is REQUIRED to treat them. And what happens? They can sue to get back a little of the costs but you and I will have to pay the rest of his or her bill.

By requiring one to purchase HC coverage he or she will have to the personal responsibility (remember those words?) to shoulder their fair share of the costs.

What do you have against requiring personal responsibility? I thought conservatives believed in that.

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You will need to show me in the Constitution where the Govt can require me to buy anything.

I'll wait.

You will have to keep waiting, it is not in there. Unless the dimwits rewrite it like they would like.

 

[AmericanFirst]

You stupid ass.... here is what I said in private "any 26 yr old on mommies insurance is a FUCKING PUSSY"

How does that differ with what I said in "public"?

hey...my kid had his own insurance when he was 22....but when the law was passed what were we supposed to do? Stand on ceremonies and make him keep on paying 4000 a year or have him not renew his policy and put him back on mine for free?

He is not a pussy.....we are smart people...if my tax dollars are going to pay for a law....even if I disagree with the law, I may as well capitalize on it....if it is going to cost me, I want to save from it as much as it allows.

But my son is by no means a pussy. The kid started working at the age of 14...he knew how to bank up sheetrock SOLO by the age of 16...and he can take apart and put together any combustible engine....given the time to do so.

Infidels being a real dick today. More than usual anyway.

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You are wrong about this just like obamaturd has been wrong about everything, especialy healthcare. Grow up socialist.

 

[AmericanFirst]

That's great ain't it. Adults a few years short of 30 can depend on mommy and daddy for health insurance. What happens when they grow up?

Exactly!!!



We are raising a generation of pussies!

And you should know. You're too much of a pussy to debate me in public so you chose to "neg" me for my OP in private instead. And for what? Just because I started a thread that you diagreed with? Well you can KMA pussy.

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Only pussies support obamaturd and his policies.

 

[RDD_1210]

That's great ain't it. Adults a few years short of 30 can depend on mommy and daddy for health insurance. What happens when they grow up?

the law will say they must buy something they very well may not be able to afford...nor may never need.

My 24 year old son ius back on our policy....but in the meantime, he has never made a claim on his original policy...other than for his annuals.....but that should never be part of insurance anyway....for insurance ius INSURANCE.....for the unexpected....

Instead, my son was paying $4000 a year to cover his $300 annual visit.

Your post sort of contradicts itself. First you say that people are forced to buy something that they "may never need" but then you go on to point out that insurance is there to cover you for the unexpected.

So isn't that the point? People should have insurance because you never know. No one is immune to accidents, heart attacks, strokes, cancer, etc...and if you don't have the insurance when unexpected illness/accidents hit, you are in a world of hurt (physically and financially).

Yeah, this law require people to buy in to a shitty system dominated by private insurance companies, but it's the system we are stuck with.

 

[Truthmatters]

It like some of you forget how much insurance was raising before the health care was done.

 

[RDD_1210]

Survey: Significant drop in uninsured young adults

The number of young adults without health insurance has dropped significantly, a new survey finds, thanks to a provision of President Barack Obama's health care law allowing them to stay on their parents' plans.

The new Gallup poll findings translate to about 1 million more young adults with health insurance.

.....coverage for young adults has proven to be a popular and relatively low-cost benefit that families were eager to sign up for in these days of prolonged school-to-work transitions.

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Actually a vast majority of the bill is well liked by the general population when they are asked about each part one by one. Outside of the mandate which I still believe to be faux-outrage anyway, there is very little that people dislike about the bill when looking at it line by line. It's FAR from perfect but there are alot of good things in the bill that many people really do like and support.

 

[Jarhead]

That's great ain't it. Adults a few years short of 30 can depend on mommy and daddy for health insurance. What happens when they grow up?

the law will say they must buy something they very well may not be able to afford...nor may never need.

My 24 year old son ius back on our policy....but in the meantime, he has never made a claim on his original policy...other than for his annuals.....but that should never be part of insurance anyway....for insurance ius INSURANCE.....for the unexpected....

Instead, my son was paying $4000 a year to cover his $300 annual visit.

Your post sort of contradicts itself. First you say that people are forced to buy something that they "may never need" but then you go on to point out that insurance is there to cover you for the unexpected.

So isn't that the point? People should have insurance because you never know. No one is immune to accidents, heart attacks, strokes, cancer, etc...and if you don't have the insurance when unexpected illness/accidents hit, you are in a world of hurt (physically and financially).

Yeah, this law require people to buy in to a shitty system dominated by private insurance companies, but it's the system we are stuck with.

it was contradictory...yes....

But my point is my point......

I mean...lets look at it this way...

Do you think there should be a law that everyone who lives within 100 miles of the coast should buy hurrican insurance?

Everyone who lives in tornado alley should buy tornado insurance?

How about this...anyone who lives within 30 miles of a lake, a stream, a river or the ocean should have to, by law, buy flood insurance?

Anyone who lives within 200 miles of a fault line should be forced to buy earthquake insurance?

You know, by the time we are done, we will be spending 75% of our income on insurance....which is something mpost of us will actually NEVER USE.

 

[Liberty]

the government can kiss my ass i am not buying insurance unless I can afford it.