Obamacare costs

............. I do not believe that prior to 2014 very many states will decide not to administer their states’ insurance exchanges or expand their Medicaid.
Direct federal administration of states’ insurance exchanges will induce sooner rather than later transformation to universal federal healthcare insurance. Not availing themselves of the generous federal benefits offered for expanding Medicaid will only serve to increase those states’ healthcare costs and provide their citizens with lesser healthcare.

Respectfully, Supposn

I fully expected most, (if not all red states) to fold; but I didn’t expect them to start folding so soon.

Refer to:
In surprise move, Arizona?s GOP governor pushes for Medicaid expansion under health care law - The Washington Post

Respectfully, Supposn

notice that as a liberal you lack the IQ to respond to the central claim that the ACA provides only typical socialist incentives to limit hospital readmissions.

As you try to grasp the subject please recall that socialism very slowly killed perhaps 75 million in Red China and Russia with socialist incentives.
 
[Notice that as a liberal you lack the IQ to respond to the central claim that the ACA provides only typical socialist incentives to limit hospital readmissions.
As you try to grasp the subject please recall that socialism very slowly killed perhaps 75 million in Red China and Russia with socialist incentives.

Edward Baiamonte, I regret you don’t share Greenbeard’s and my advocacy for both individual personal and/or organizations’ accepting their duty to act responsibly. Fortunately the U. S, Congress agreed with us rather than with you.

The provisions of the Affordable Care Act, (correctly described as the “Re-admissions Reduction Program”), does not penalize hospitals for readmitting patients. It does penalize hospitals practicing policies that result in statistically clear increased readmissions.

Such hospitals attempted (and occasionally succeeded) to reduce their own costs by passing the consequences of their policies upon others.

Patients received sub-standard healthcare and along with their families they additionally suffered lesser qualities of life due to those hospitals sub-standard practices. Everyone (which certainly includes USA taxpayers), directly or indirectly paying for the additional expenses due to those hospitals’ practices of false economy, have in effect had their “pockets picked”.

The “Re-admissions Reduction Program” is not socialist or communist, or capitalist or liberal or conservative policy; it’s sensible financial policy.

Respectfully, Supposn
 
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[Notice that as a liberal you lack the IQ to respond to the central claim that the ACA provides only typical socialist incentives to limit hospital readmissions.
As you try to grasp the subject please recall that socialism very slowly killed perhaps 75 million in Red China and Russia with socialist incentives.

Edward Baiamonte, I regret you don’t share Greenbeard’s and my advocacy for both individual personal and/or organizations’ accepting their duty to act responsibly. Fortunately the U. S, Congress agreed with us rather than with you.

The provisions of the Affordable Care Act, (correctly described as the “Re-admissions Reduction Program”), does not penalize hospitals for readmitting patients. It does penalize hospitals practicing policies that result in statistically clear increased readmissions.

Such hospitals attempted (and occasionally succeeded) to reduce their own costs by passing the consequences of their policies upon others.

Patients received sub-standard healthcare and along with their families they additionally suffered lesser qualities of life due to those hospitals sub-standard practices. Everyone (which certainly includes USA taxpayers), directly or indirectly paying for the additional expenses due to those hospitals’ practices of false economy, have in effect had their “pockets picked”.

The “Re-admissions Reduction Program” is not socialist or communist, or capitalist or liberal or conservative policy; it’s sensible financial policy.

Respectfully, Supposn

notice that as a liberal you lack the IQ to respond to the central claim that the ACA provides only typical socialist incentives to limit hospital readmissions and to limit costs in general.

Imagine if Republicans advocated a policy that had killed 100 million and just pretended it never happened or that Red China had not instantly stopped the socialist en masse starvation with Republican capitalist incentives?
 
[Notice that as a liberal you lack the IQ to respond to the central claim that the ACA provides only typical socialist incentives to limit hospital readmissions.
As you try to grasp the subject please recall that socialism very slowly killed perhaps 75 million in Red China and Russia with socialist incentives.

Edward Baiamonte, I regret you don’t share Greenbeard’s and my advocacy for both individual personal and/or organizations’ accepting their duty to act responsibly. Fortunately the U. S, Congress agreed with us rather than with you. ......
.......The “Re-admissions Reduction Program” is not socialist or communist, or capitalist or liberal or conservative policy; it’s sensible financial policy.
Respectfully, Supposn

notice that as a liberal you lack the IQ to respond to the central claim that the ACA provides only typical socialist incentives to limit hospital readmissions and to limit costs in general.
Imagine if Republicans advocated a policy that had killed 100 million and just pretended it never happened or that Red China had not instantly stopped the socialist en masse starvation with Republican capitalist incentives?

Edward Baiamonte, the Affordable Care Act is federal law. Fortunately the U. S, Congress disagreed with with you.

Respectfully, Supposn
 
Edward Baiamonte, I regret you don’t share Greenbeard’s and my advocacy for both individual personal and/or organizations’ accepting their duty to act responsibly. Fortunately the U. S, Congress agreed with us rather than with you. ......
.......The “Re-admissions Reduction Program” is not socialist or communist, or capitalist or liberal or conservative policy; it’s sensible financial policy.
Respectfully, Supposn

notice that as a liberal you lack the IQ to respond to the central claim that the ACA provides only typical socialist incentives to limit hospital readmissions and to limit costs in general.
Imagine if Republicans advocated a policy that had killed 100 million and just pretended it never happened or that Red China had not instantly stopped the socialist en masse starvation with Republican capitalist incentives?

Edward Baiamonte, the Affordable Care Act is federal law. Fortunately the U. S, Congress disagreed with with you.

Respectfully, Supposn

dear, issue is if you have IQ to respond to charge that it employs typical socialist incentives, not whether it is Federal law.

Do you have IQ?? Are you a socialist??
 
Uh, did you ever consider that the US has the highest health care costs of any nation among the 35 industrialized nations of the world?

this is obviously because we have a socialized system controlled by the liberal government. I guess you've never heard of Medicaid, Medicare, VA, Schip, and insurance mis-regulation??? See why we are positive a liberal will be slow, so very very slow.

Edward Baiamonte, your message made no attempt to refute Rshermr’s contention “the US has the highest health care costs of any nation among the 35 industrialize nations of the world”.

Prior to the passage of the Affordable Care Act, No industrial nation’s medical policies were more capitalistic or less socialistic than that of the USA.

Your implied conclusion:
The greater medical expenditures of USA per national capita of general populations or populations of general patients or populations among populations of patients sharing any particular common medical condition are due primarily to USA’s medical insurance industry and government practices has absolutely no logical basis.

Your contention is illogical. I’m far from certain that the ACA will not be cause for greater government budget expenditures. I fully expect that the ACA will significantly improve medical care within the USA at no greater aggregate cost to our nation.

Respectfully, Supposn
 
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Edward Baiamonte, your message made no attempt to refute Rshermr’s contention “the US has the highest health care costs of any nation among the 35 industrialize nations of the world”.

too stupid but perfectly liberal !! the USSR and Red China demonstrated that socialism makes everything so expensive that everyone starves to death!! We have a socialist system now and Barry wants to make it more socialist!!

See why we say a liberal will be slow, so very very slow!!
 
Prior to the passage of the Affordable Care Act, No industrial nation’s medical policies were more capitalistic or less socialistic than that of the USA.

OMG too stupid and perfectly liberal!!!!!! We had no capitalism at all. In fact insurance competition was made illegal by libturds. Providers don't post prices in a comparable way and people don't shop with their own money.

See why we are 100% positive a liberal will be slow, so very very slow!!!!
 
Prior to the passage of the Affordable Care Act, No industrial nation’s medical policies were more capitalistic or less socialistic than that of the USA.

OMG too stupid and perfectly liberal!!!!!! We had no capitalism at all. In fact insurance competition was made illegal by libturds. Providers don't post prices in a comparable way and people don't shop with their own money.

See why we are 100% positive a liberal will be slow, so very very slow!!!!

Edward Baiamonte, labels and hyperboles are recourses for those unable to respond with facts and logic. I suppose you can write more intelligently.

Respectfully, Supposn
 
Prior to the passage of the Affordable Care Act, No industrial nation’s medical policies were more capitalistic or less socialistic than that of the USA.

OMG too stupid and perfectly liberal!!!!!! We had no capitalism at all. In fact insurance competition was made illegal by libturds. Providers don't post prices in a comparable way and people don't shop with their own money.

See why we are 100% positive a liberal will be slow, so very very slow!!!!

Edward Baiamonte, labels and hyperboles are recourses for those unable to respond with facts and logic. I suppose you can write more intelligently.

Respectfully, Supposn

The libturd said we had capitalist health care in the USA. He had never heard of Medicaid, Medicare, VA, Schip, and health insurance regulation!!! See why we are positive a liberal will be slow, so very very slow!!
 
OMG too stupid and perfectly liberal!!!!!! We had no capitalism at all. In fact insurance competition was made illegal by libturds. Providers don't post prices in a comparable way and people don't shop with their own money.

See why we are 100% positive a liberal will be slow, so very very slow!!!!

Edward Baiamonte, labels and hyperboles are recourses for those unable to respond with facts and logic. I suppose you can write more intelligently.
Respectfully, Supposn

The libturd said we had capitalist health care in the USA. He had never heard of Medicaid, Medicare, VA, Schip, and health insurance regulation!!! See why we are positive a liberal will be slow, so very very slow!!

Edward Baiamonte, Medicaid, Medicare and SCHIP are administration of medical insurance plans; they’re not healthcare providers. USA’s hospitals span the entire ownership spectrum; there are corporate, university, charity, partnership and government owned clinics and hospitals. A great proportion of health care is provided by those who financially profit from their own enterprises. That’s factual and that's capitalism.

You object to government monitoring insurance companies? The lack of diligent government monitoring of the financial industries significantly undermined our nation’s economy and was reflected throughout the global economy.

My supposition is incorrect? You’re unable to respond with facts and logic? If you stretch yourself and strive, I want to believe you’re capable of writing intelligently.

Respectfully, Supposn
 
Edward Baiamonte, Medicaid, Medicare and SCHIP are administration of medical insurance plans; they’re not healthcare providers. USA’s hospitals span the entire ownership spectrum; there are corporate, university, charity, partnership and government owned clinics and hospitals. A great proportion of health care is provided by those who financially profit from their own enterprises. That’s factual and that's capitalism.

got it!!! The libturd feels Medicaid Medicare Schip VA and illegal health insurance competition mean we have a capitalist heath care system in America!!

See why we are 100% positive a liberal will be so, so very very slow!!!
 
You object to government monitoring insurance companies? The lack of diligent government monitoring of the financial industries significantly undermined our nation’s economy and was reflected throughout the global economy.

too stupid but 100% liberal !!! The USSR and Red China and 165 other socialist countries diligently monitored their entire economies and starved 125 millin to death!! Then they switched to capitalism!!
Have you ever heard of China??? See why we say slow??????

Also, our current crisis was caused because our soviet liberals did too diligently monitor our economy!! Has the idiot liberal ever heard of the Federal Reserve?? Fanny Freddie FHA CRA all of whom were designed to subvert the Republican free market to get people into homes the Republican free market said they could not afford??? See why we say slow???? OMG slow!!!
 
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You object to government monitoring insurance companies? The lack of diligent government monitoring of the financial industries significantly undermined our nation’s economy and was reflected throughout the global economy.

too stupid but 100% liberal !!! The USSR and Red China and 165 other socialist countries diligently monitored their entire economies and starved 125 millin to death!! Then they switched to capitalism!!
Have you ever heard of China??? See why we say slow??????

Also, our current crisis was caused because our soviet liberals did too diligently monitor our economy!! Has the idiot liberal ever heard of the Federal Reserve?? Fanny Freddie FHA CRA all of whom were designed to subvert the Republican free market to get people into homes the Republican free market said they could not afford??? See why we say slow???? OMG slow!!!

EdwardBaiamonte, obviously my supposition was incorrect.
Your message indicates (at least upon this issue), you are incapable of responding with facts and logic.

Our elected official explicitly state, legislate and administrate in manners that uphold the contention of our giant financial institutions being “too large to be permitted to fail”.

If government’s legal powers to monitor and enforce existing laws applicable to all financial institutions within the USA were not and continue not to be exercised, then obviously the federal government did not diligently act to safeguard our economy. Our federal and our states’ governments do continue to treat those institutions as sacred.
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What and who are “our soviet liberals”?
You believe the Russia Federation and the Peoples’ Republic of China are capitalist nations?

Respectfully, Supposn
 
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the federal government did not diligently act to safeguard our economy.

once again:
our current crisis was caused because our soviet liberals did too diligently monitor our economy!! Has the idiot liberal ever heard of the Federal Reserve?? Fanny Freddie FHA CRA all of whom were designed to subvert the Republican free market to get people into homes the Republican free market said they could not afford??? See why we say slow???? OMG slow!
 

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