Obamacare: Buy Insurance Or Go To Jail!...

[Soggy in NOLA]

What do you expect? All this from a bunch who say Big Macs are "imoral", Iran is no threat and embraces Chavez & Castro. Who'd a seen this a coming!!??

 

[Zoom-boing]

Name calling, deflection and crickets oh my.

 

[Wicked Jester]

So the only lefty, lib, pinko response to this is deflection and attacking the messenger?

Hey libs, how about you actually address the issue of charging people with a misdemeanor if they can't or won't buy health insurance or pay a "fee" (call it anything but a tax)?

Go on.....I dare you!

Good luck with that!

 

[Care4all]

this is a gift horse for the insurance industry... we are better off having a Medicare system we can buy in to or be taxed for, that covers all imo....

i don't feel good about making this mandatory...

then, if you do not, or do not have a public option, there is nothing to lower our health care expenses and insurance companies can charge as high a price as they would like....and not care because it is mandatory for citizens to buy insurance from them....so...they have guaranteed customers....no need to compete.

 

[Tech_Esq]

So the only lefty, lib, pinko response to this is deflection and attacking the messenger?

Hey libs, how about you actually address the issue of charging people with a misdemeanor if they can't or won't buy health insurance or pay a "fee" (call it anything but a tax)?

Go on.....I dare you!

Good luck with that!

I know it Jester! I'm having no luck at all!

 

[LibocalypseNow]

The main problem with American Leftists is that they like to laugh off things like "Fat Police Gestapos" and then boldly proclaim that such insane things could not possibly ever happen here. Well unfortunately that's what most used to say in countries like Great Britain as well. Now their Leftists really have given them their Fat Police Gestapos and Global Warming Gestapos. Seriously,who in Great Britain ever imagined a day when their Government could storm their homes and confiscate their children for being deemed "Obese" by the State? So it's time for people to stop living that fantasy "It could never happen here." It is actually more realistic to think that it will probably happen here. Socialism/Communism is never the answer in the end.

 

[Wicked Jester]

So the only lefty, lib, pinko response to this is deflection and attacking the messenger?

Hey libs, how about you actually address the issue of charging people with a misdemeanor if they can't or won't buy health insurance or pay a "fee" (call it anything but a tax)?

Go on.....I dare you!

Good luck with that!

I know it Jester! I'm having no luck at all!

Well, after all, it is the libs who are whining about "too many people being put in jail". Hell, that's the ACLU's main mantra.
And now, a liberal is proposing we jail more people for...ahhhh....gee.....ahhh......oh never mind!

Libs are friggin' idiots!

 

[Jay Canuck]

GOPcare: Buy insurance from the large insurance corps or die.

Change the subject and attack. Good one. But it's already been done on this thread.

Just defend the proposition.

sorry I was just employing the far-right tactic I have seen used for the last 20 years.

 

[logical4u]

Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) received a handwritten note Thursday from Joint Committee on Taxation Chief of Staff Tom Barthold confirming the penalty for failing to pay the up to $1,900 fine for not buying health insurance. "Violators" could also be charged with a Misdemeanor and could face up to a year in jail or a $25,000 penalty,Barthold wrote on JCT letterhead. He signed it "Sincerely,Thomas A. Barthold."

So there will be a Health Care Gestapo created after all. This is and never was just "Silly Paranoia" like so many were accused of by the Hopey Changey Sheep. This is reality. Lets just hope & pray that our Politicians stand on the side of Freedom & Liberty and do not support this current health care legislation. We do not have to be forced to give up more of our Freedom & Liberty in the name of possibly better health care. Just isn't a wise trade-off in my humble opinion. Surely we can fix our health care without further oppressing the people. I hope all will urge their representatives in Congress to vote against this legislation.

Senator John Ensign?
Has his Mommy and Daddy paid off any more of his mistresses and their families lately?

The topic is "healthcare" being used to take our freedoms. Can you show where it is constitutional or will help the economy?

 

[Tech_Esq]

GOPcare: Buy insurance from the large insurance corps or die.

Change the subject and attack. Good one. But it's already been done on this thread.

Just defend the proposition.

sorry I was just employing the far-right tactic I have seen used for the last 20 years.

Your military left Jay. You had your left and your right confused.

 

[Tech_Esq]

this is a gift horse for the insurance industry... we are better off having a Medicare system we can buy in to or be taxed for, that covers all imo....

i don't feel good about making this mandatory...

then, if you do not, or do not have a public option, there is nothing to lower our health care expenses and insurance companies can charge as high a price as they would like....and not care because it is mandatory for citizens to buy insurance from them....so...they have guaranteed customers....no need to compete.

Care,

You understand that if there is a public option, then in 5 years there will not be a private option right? Is that the result you are seeking?

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Socialists are not Liberals. There are no real Liberals left in the Democratic Party at this point. Many people continue to make the mistake of labeling most Democrats "Liberals." No real Liberal could ever support Socialist Dictators like Hugo Chavez. Hugo Chavez is currently in the process of shutting down Venezuela's last opposition Media sources. What kind of Liberal would support such brutal suppression of Free Speech? Calling today's Democrats "Liberals" is like calling Hugo Chavez a "Liberal." Hugo Chavez is actually a National Socialist just like Adolf Hitler was. So why do so many Democrats kneel to lick his boots? The answer is that they are not Liberals but rather are Socialists. There really is a big difference between the two. More people will begin to understand this at some point. Lets just hope & pray it's not too late.

 

[Jay Canuck]

I didn't know that a public option would wipe out all the insurance corps?!?..... how will this happen?

 

[Jay Canuck]

"I don't need maternity care. So requiring that on my insurance policy is something that I don't need and will make the policy more expensive."
-- Jon Kyl (R-Total Ass) after Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) argued
that insurers must be required to cover basic maternity care, Link

I'm just guesing here but Jon I think your Mother did.

 

[keee keee]

Big Black Dog it is not bull shit!!! It is the way the dems are going to give amnesty to all the illegals, while buying their future votes in all upcoming elections, and getting the working people joe taxpayer to pay for the insurance of all the unemployed, poor, and illegals through higher taxes on payrole and purchases. But the funny thing is that the politicians excluded themselves and families from this insurance system leaving themselves in a good insurance system provided by the taxpayers while screwing them and putting them in a rationed horrible system that is doomed to fail and go broke!!!

 

[Tech_Esq]

I didn't know that a public option would wipe out all the insurance corps?!?..... how will this happen?

You should know, that's the way Canada did it.

The "public plan" doesn't need to make a profit or break even. It can run a deficit forever. Just like all of the health care plans do. It won't take too long for all the health insurance plans to decide they cannot compete against something that loses money every year. So, they will stop offering health care plans.

Then, you will be left with the "Public Option" of course, since having health care is mandatory or pay a fine, it isn't an "Option" anymore.

 

[Tech_Esq]

"I don't need maternity care. So requiring that on my insurance policy is something that I don't need and will make the policy more expensive."
-- Jon Kyl (R-Total Ass) after Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) argued
that insurers must be required to cover basic maternity care, Link

I'm just guesing here but Jon I think your Mother did.

If I'm a 24 year old male, why should I pay maternity coverage.

I'm a couple where both of us have had been snipped, why should we pay for maternity care.

We're a couple and she had to have a hysterectomy. Why should we have to pay for maternity care?

 

[Jay Canuck]

is that why I purchased extra life and health insurance here? gee it sounds as if you know about as much about Canadian healthcare as you do your own.....

 

[Jay Canuck]

I don't blame you though you are just repeating what your talking head masters would have you repeat verbatim as they accept all that money from lobbyists.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Just remember that Socialists are not Liberals. There really is a big difference between the two. Today's Democratic Party is no longer the Party of Liberals it has instead become the Party of Socialists. I don't know any true Liberals who would kneel and lick Hugo Chavez's boots the way today's Democrats do. Why do so many current Democrats lick Chavez's boots? It's an interesting question no? The man is currently shutting down all opposition Media. No true Liberal would ever support such brutal suppression of Free Speech. Calling today's Democrats Liberals would be like calling Chavez a Liberal. Chavez is a National Socialist just like those other National Socialists back in Germany. The sooner people start realizing that today's Democrats are Socialists not Liberals,the better off the country will be. We can then start electing real Leaders who fully support our Constitution and its Freedoms it guarantees.