Obama Wins Debate Factchecking

[jtpr312]

Lol, factcheck and the NY Times call Romney a liar. No freaking surprsie from these two leftsits organizations. I wouldn't trust either when it came to making obama look good and his opponent look bad, both are liberal obama supporters, the only difference being that factcheck tries to say it's non-partisan where the NY Times can't make that claim.

 

[The Rabbi]

You understand that what you've posted is indicative of the failure of Obama's policies, right? In a recovery job growth should be very strong as demand snaps back. This is the worst recovery on record. Obama has created the fewest jobs on record. Every indicator is bad.
You understand that failure is not success, right?

 

[hazlnut]

The TeaBrains are avoiding this thread.

Great posts from all who respect facts!!

Thank you for this thread.

 

[hazlnut]

Lol, factcheck and the NY Times call Romney a liar. No freaking surprsie from these two leftsits organizations.

When you (mis)use the word 'leftist', you realize a siren goes off, identifying you as an idiot.

Just a helpful tip.

 

[The Rabbi]

The TeaBrains are avoiding this thread.

Great posts from all who respect facts!!

Thank you for this thread.

The only tea brain here appears to be you.

 

[Oddball]

Nothing like a straight-up lie right off the bat, to make your "arithmetic" fail to add up....The housing bust was not caused by Chimpola's, or anyone elses, "trickle down" policies.

Sorry I once mistook you for one of the few marginally intellectually honest lolberals around here...Won't make the same mistake again.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

lugnuts make it a habit to blame others for their failures.

 

[Barb]

Nothing like a straight-up lie right off the bat, to make your "arithmetic" fail to add up....The housing bust was not caused by Chimpola's, or anyone elses, "trickle down" policies.

Sorry I once mistook you for one of the few marginally intellectually honest lolberals around here...Won't make the same mistake again.

Deregulation of the financial markets and how they were allowed to gamble with derivative debt and red-line people with perfectly respectable credit ratings into sub=prime mortgages in order to increase their risks weren't part and parcel of supply side economic policy? Is THAT what you're trying to claim? Further, are you trying to say that there were NO other economic repercussions of supply side policies at play, that people weren't already losing their jobs to downsizing, out sourcing, in sourcing, right sizing, and plain scumbuggery? That the rising gas prices on top of all that did not put added pressures on people at the same time, raising heating, electricity, food, and every other inelastic need beyond peoples ability to adjust?

Its okay Oddball, I stopped making that mistake about you a long time ago.

 

[jtpr312]

Lol, factcheck and the NY Times call Romney a liar. No freaking surprsie from these two leftsits organizations.

When you (mis)use the word 'leftist', you realize a siren goes off, identifying you as an idiot.

Just a helpful tip.

You realize when you tell us you support obama a siren goes off identifying you as a brain dead, kool aid slurrping moron.

 

[Oddball]

Nothing like a straight-up lie right off the bat, to make your "arithmetic" fail to add up....The housing bust was not caused by Chimpola's, or anyone elses, "trickle down" policies.

Sorry I once mistook you for one of the few marginally intellectually honest lolberals around here...Won't make the same mistake again.

Deregulation of the financial markets and how they were allowed to gamble with derivative debt and red-line people with perfectly respectable credit ratings into sub=prime mortgages in order to increase their risks weren't part and parcel of supply side economic policy? Is THAT what you're trying to claim? Further, are you trying to say that there were NO other economic repercussions of supply side policies at play, that people weren't already losing their jobs to downsizing, out sourcing, in sourcing, right sizing, and plain scumbuggery? That the rising gas prices on top of all that did not put added pressures on people at the same time, raising heating, electricity, food, and every other inelastic need beyond peoples ability to adjust?

Its okay Oddball, I stopped making that mistake about you a long time ago.

Like I said, lying is a poor way to get your point across.

But please, keep trying to blame everything from the housing bubble to unsightly panty lines on GEORGE BOOOOOOOOSH!...People with half a brain will save themselves the bother of reading any more your posts.

 

[Stephanie]

Lol, factcheck and the NY Times call Romney a liar. No freaking surprsie from these two leftsits organizations.

When you (mis)use the word 'leftist', you realize a siren goes off, identifying you as an idiot.

Just a helpful tip.

well you using Teabrains identifies you as an idiot and nothing but a troll.

 

[Barb]

Nothing like a straight-up lie right off the bat, to make your "arithmetic" fail to add up....The housing bust was not caused by Chimpola's, or anyone elses, "trickle down" policies.

Sorry I once mistook you for one of the few marginally intellectually honest lolberals around here...Won't make the same mistake again.

Deregulation of the financial markets and how they were allowed to gamble with derivative debt and red-line people with perfectly respectable credit ratings into sub=prime mortgages in order to increase their risks weren't part and parcel of supply side economic policy? Is THAT what you're trying to claim? Further, are you trying to say that there were NO other economic repercussions of supply side policies at play, that people weren't already losing their jobs to downsizing, out sourcing, in sourcing, right sizing, and plain scumbuggery? That the rising gas prices on top of all that did not put added pressures on people at the same time, raising heating, electricity, food, and every other inelastic need beyond peoples ability to adjust?

Its okay Oddball, I stopped making that mistake about you a long time ago.

Like I said, lying is a poor way to get your point across.

But please, keep trying to blame everything from the housing bubble to unsightly panty lines on GEORGE BOOOOOOOOSH!...People with half a brain will save themselves the bother of reading any more your posts.

Take a pill, Oddball, you've been proven wrong before. It isn't fatal.

 

[Barb]

Why Obama Now - YouTube

 

[candycorn]

Romney Goes On Offense, Pays For It In First Wave Of Fact Checks


by Mark Memmott and Scott Montgomery


In their first of three debates, President Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney "traded barbs" and stretched some facts, say the nonpartisan watchdogs at PolitiFact.com.

Similarly, the researchers at the Annenberg Public Policy Center's FactCheck.org found examples of truth-stretching by both men.

Overall, it was a debate packed with facts, a wonk's delight. From the very first remarks, with President Obama saying 5 million jobs have been created in the private sector over the last 30 months, the debate was very number focused. So there were some things to check. And because Romney made more factual assertions, he's getting dinged more — at least in the early hours after the debate — by the fact checkers.
Here a sample of what's being reported about the truthiness of what Obama and Romney had to say Wednesday night on stage at the University of Denver:
— One of the biggest disputes was over tax cuts. Obama argued that Romney's plan to stimulate the economy includes a tax cut totaling $5 trillion that, Obama said, isn't possible because the Republican nominee is also promising to spend money in other places.

Romney flatly disputed that number. "First of all, I don't have a $5 trillion tax cut," he said.

Who's right? The Washington Post's Fact Checker says the facts on this one are on Obama's side. The New York Times notes that Romney "has proposed cutting all marginal tax rates by 20 percent — which would in and of itself cut tax revenue by $5 trillion."

FactCheck.org has weighed in too, tweeting during the debate that "Romney says he will pay for $5T tax cut without raising deficit or raising taxes on middle class. Experts say that's not possible."

PolitiFact has given a "mostly true" rating to the charge that "Romney is proposing a tax plan "that would give millionaires another tax break and raise taxes on middle class families by up to $2,000 a year."

— Has the president put in place a plan that would cut Medicare benefits by $716 billion? Romney says yes. The president says no. According to PolitiFact, Romney's charge is "half true."

"That amount — $716 billion — refers to Obamacare's reductions in Medicare spending over 10 years, primarily paid to insurers and hospitals," says PolitiFact. So there is a basis for the number. But, it adds, "the statement gives the impression that the law takes money already allocated to Medicare away from current recipients," which is why it gets only a "half true" rating.

The New York Times writes that Obama "did not cut benefits by $716 billion over 10 years as part of his 2010 health care law; rather, he reduced Medicare reimbursements to health care providers, chiefly insurance companies and drug manufacturers. And the law gave Medicare recipients more generous benefits for prescription drugs and free preventive care like mammograms."

Television debates these days are usually not decided on substantive argument. Much of what Governor Romney stated had been long debunked or were liberal planks that he had never mentioned before. Forget Etch a Sketch; he's more like a slinky at this point.

Obama has an electoral college lock so it's not going to matter but its still a shame that more voters are not seeing the Governor for his lack of honesty.

 

[Wroberson]

Lol, factcheck and the NY Times call Romney a liar. No freaking surprsie from these two leftsits organizations.

When you (mis)use the word 'leftist', you realize a siren goes off, identifying you as an idiot.

Just a helpful tip.

You realize when you tell us you support obama a siren goes off identifying you as a brain dead, kool aid slurrping moron.

When things like this are said from the right, it make you
sound like a neo-con nut job out to take over the World.

As an independent, I find it hard to support a President
constitutionally and retain the right to force change.

 

[xsited1]

When did PolitiFact.com become nonpartisan?

 

[Stephanie]

They have to find SOME way to say Obama won..

very sad and pathetic

 

[California Girl]

Fact checkers will hammer Romney's distortions and lies.

LOL, you're so called "Fact Checkers" are in the tank for the democrats. Obama looked like the Clown in Chief tonight at the debate and even you know it. You had better go consult Big Chief Squat-n-drop-it for some new bullshit.

The truth (facts) tend to have a liberal bias.

At least, according to liberals. But then, they are biased. It's fine to keep repeating one liners that you believe are 'relevant'... but it doesn't make those one liners true. The problem, in my view, is that very few of us actually value truth.