Obama Walks Us Towards Socialism/Communism

[bobcollum]

It doesn't matter, guilt by association is always a weak case.

Having one or two Communist/Socilaist associations makes a weak argument. Having a career full of them is called analysis based upon past actions and associations. Barack Obama once asked that we judge him by the people he surrounds himself with. I'm holding him to that standard. Your dismissing the facts because it prevents further discussion of the obvious.

Those are the only people he has associated with in his past, or did you only pick certain ones to fit your narrative?

 

[francoHFW]

Pure Pubcrappe for dupes only. Getting our ridiculous scam of a greedy Pub/corp health "system' reformed with a plan Pubs SAID they wanted, and taxing the bloated rich 4% more is only communism for totally brainwashed MORONS. Hoping for your recovery.

The CPUSA has totally given up on communism, btw. Not as imaginary as the NBPP, but close. The character assassination of loyal Americans is awfully old too, twits.

 

[Publius1787]

It doesn't matter, guilt by association is always a weak case.

Having one or two Communist/Socilaist associations makes a weak argument. Having a career full of them is called analysis based upon past actions and associations. Barack Obama once asked that we judge him by the people he surrounds himself with. I'm holding him to that standard. Your dismissing the facts because it prevents further discussion of the obvious.

Those are the only people he has associated with in his past, or did you only pick certain ones to fit your narrative?

Further proof that you have zero understanding of who these people are. Many of them serve in his admin today. Of course, the final sentence of the list of names is still in play for those of you who failed to read it. Shall I make a more complete list with times dates and annotation? It would take me some time but I will be happy to do it.

 

[kiwiman127]

Here we go again, another thread about communism/socialism but it seems all these thread starters have no clue what communism/socialism really are.

So for at least the 5th time:

Definition of SOCIALISM

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
Socialism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Definition of COMMUNISM

1 a : a theory advocating elimination of private property
b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
Communism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

OK, above are the definitions of both communism and socialism. Now please tell all of us what exactly Obama has done in factual terms that meet the definitions.

Jon Huntsman recently nailed the far right nutters right on the head. He said "We can't be known as a party that's fear-based". Fear-based, that's what all this communism/socialism hysteria is really all about.
Obama has been president for four years and yet the US is still the least socialistic/communist country in the world. Nothing has changed.

 

[Mac1958]

Here we go again, another thread about communism/socialism but it seems all these thread starters have no clue what communism/socialism really are.

So for at least the 5th time:

Definition of SOCIALISM

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
Socialism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Definition of COMMUNISM

1 a : a theory advocating elimination of private property
b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
Communism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

OK, above are the definitions of both communism and socialism. Now please tell all of us what exactly Obama has done in factual terms that meet the definitions.

Looking forward to the clear and direct responses.

.

 

[bobcollum]

Having one or two Communist/Socilaist associations makes a weak argument. Having a career full of them is called analysis based upon past actions and associations. Barack Obama once asked that we judge him by the people he surrounds himself with. I'm holding him to that standard. Your dismissing the facts because it prevents further discussion of the obvious.

Those are the only people he has associated with in his past, or did you only pick certain ones to fit your narrative?

Further proof that you have zero understanding of who these people are. Many of them serve in his admin today. Of course, the final sentence of the list of names is still in play for those of you who failed to read it. Shall I make a more complete list with times dates and annotation? It would take me some time but I will be happy to do it.

You didn't answer my question.

He has zero history of any acquaintances with more of a capitalist background?

 

[Plasmaball]

Cass Sunstein - Discover the Networks

Oh! I know who Cass Sunstein is. But Who is Cass Sinstien? Sounds really evil and communisty. Better watch out for him.

Avoiding the merits and falts of communism/socialism, Obama is still closer to a socialist than he ever will be a capitalist. Likewise he has associated and surrounded himself by socialist influences throughout his whole life. This cannot be contested.

and you base this on?

 

[Stephanie]

Pure Pubcrappe for dupes only. Getting our ridiculous scam of a greedy Pub/corp health "system' reformed with a plan Pubs SAID they wanted, and taxing the bloated rich 4% more is only communism for totally brainwashed MORONS. Hoping for your recovery.

The CPUSA has totally given up on communism, btw. Not as imaginary as the NBPP, but close. The character assassination of loyal Americans is awfully old too, twits.

yeah sure they have..you get paid to spread that around?

 

[Plasmaball]

Here we go again, another thread about communism/socialism but it seems all these thread starters have no clue what communism/socialism really are.

So for at least the 5th time:

Definition of SOCIALISM

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
Socialism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Definition of COMMUNISM

1 a : a theory advocating elimination of private property
b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
Communism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

OK, above are the definitions of both communism and socialism. Now please tell all of us what exactly Obama has done in factual terms that meet the definitions.

Jon Huntsman recently nailed the far right nutters right on the head. He said "We can't be known as a party that's fear-based". Fear-based, that's what all this communism/socialism hysteria is really all about.
Obama has been president for four years and yet the US is still the least socialistic/communist country in the world. Nothing has changed.

OMG public parks are communism! We must destroy yellow stone!

 

[FJO]

Damn.....a commie AND a socialist

And when Republicans asked......Wouldn't you rather have us run things?

America loudly replied.....FUCK NO

And when the free phones, Obama-stash-money, meal tickets, food stamps and all other stuff known as such or bought by other people's money, will say the same things to Democrats. Just a matter of time. Try 2014. And then 2016.

Cycles and pendulum, remember?!

 

[Publius1787]

Here we go again, another thread about communism/socialism but it seems all these thread starters have no clue what communism/socialism really are.

So for at least the 5th time:

Definition of SOCIALISM

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
Socialism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Definition of COMMUNISM

1 a : a theory advocating elimination of private property
b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
Communism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

OK, above are the definitions of both communism and socialism. Now please tell all of us what exactly Obama has done in factual terms that meet the definitions.

Jon Huntsman recently nailed the far right nutters right on the head. He said "We can't be known as a party that's fear-based". Fear-based, that's what all this communism/socialism hysteria is really all about.
Obama has been president for four years and yet the US is still the least socialistic/communist country in the world. Nothing has changed.

With seperation of powers we cannot show how he has changed us into a socialist state but only the actions he has done to move of closer to such a state. By default, a country that moves further to the left naturally moves closer to socialism, and thus, is not a good indicator. The question then becomes not how he has made us in to a socialist state, but, what would we look like in his perfect society. That can only be assessed via past actions, stated intentions, and associations.

 

[Publius1787]

Oh! I know who Cass Sunstein is. But Who is Cass Sinstien? Sounds really evil and communisty. Better watch out for him.

Avoiding the merits and falts of communism/socialism, Obama is still closer to a socialist than he ever will be a capitalist. Likewise he has associated and surrounded himself by socialist influences throughout his whole life. This cannot be contested.

and you base this on?

Someone posted without going through the thread first.

 

[Publius1787]

Those are the only people he has associated with in his past, or did you only pick certain ones to fit your narrative?

Further proof that you have zero understanding of who these people are. Many of them serve in his admin today. Of course, the final sentence of the list of names is still in play for those of you who failed to read it. Shall I make a more complete list with times dates and annotation? It would take me some time but I will be happy to do it.

You didn't answer my question.

He has zero history of any acquaintances with more of a capitalist background?

No other president in the history of the us has had the amount of communist/socialist influences than he. Capitalist associations? I am sure. But look how he treats the Chamber of Commerce and then look how he treats the Unions. Unions are the path to socialism, every socialist organizer will tell you that. Thats why it was important for Obama to make an illegal recess appointment to the NLRB while congress was still in session. However, the best indicator of all is his non confirmed appointees who need not go through congress. In Obama's perfect world, those people would run the country.

 

[FJO]

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This girl is from Europe.

I'm just sayin'.

She looks like she is starving and nothing to wear.....

Damn socialism!

Proves nothing, but the fact that in socialist countries one can do just as well as anyone in a capitalist country, as long as they have a certain amount of talent and/or they faithfully toe the party line.

How else can you explain the success of tiny socialist/communist countries like Cuba or Hungary to do so well at the Olympic Games? Maybe not so much now, but in the heydays of communism, how could Hungary win 16 gold medals in the 1952 Helsinki Olympic Games? Or East Germany then and many times, after, until life and kharma and justice caught up with them??

 

[Publius1787]

Here we go again, another thread about communism/socialism but it seems all these thread starters have no clue what communism/socialism really are.

So for at least the 5th time:

Definition of SOCIALISM

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
Socialism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Definition of COMMUNISM

1 a : a theory advocating elimination of private property
b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
Communism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

OK, above are the definitions of both communism and socialism. Now please tell all of us what exactly Obama has done in factual terms that meet the definitions.

Jon Huntsman recently nailed the far right nutters right on the head. He said "We can't be known as a party that's fear-based". Fear-based, that's what all this communism/socialism hysteria is really all about.
Obama has been president for four years and yet the US is still the least socialistic/communist country in the world. Nothing has changed.

OMG public parks are communism! We must destroy yellow stone!

There is plenty of natural precedent for "the commons" without infringing on the principle of self ownership.

 

[francoHFW]

Those definitions are ridiculously simplistic. Non Cold War dinosaurs, non Pub dupes define socialist as always democratic, basically regulated and fair capitalism with a good safety net, including universal health care, ie, every modern democracy but us- see sig pp1. They call themselves social democrats so as to not drive brainwashed ignorant loudmouth US RWers into frothing at the mouth. LOL

 

[Plasmaball]

Avoiding the merits and falts of communism/socialism, Obama is still closer to a socialist than he ever will be a capitalist. Likewise he has associated and surrounded himself by socialist influences throughout his whole life. This cannot be contested.

and you base this on?

Someone posted without going through the thread first.

stop dodging.

 

[FJO]

I don't think there is anyone here who doesn't honestly beleive that Obama would rather take the side of communists/socialists as opposed to working with conservatives.

The only person who believes such a thing is ignorant, not being honest, or a partisan hack.

Or perhaps, somebody who dares to look at facts, rather than forgive everything to a treasonous half-black pretender, because the color of his skin.

 

[Meathead]

Despite idiots (Franco) like the above, I do not think Obama himself is that radical. Those like the idiot above are, but the agenda is fortunately not controlled by the like.

 

[Publius1787]

and you base this on?

Someone posted without going through the thread first.

stop dodging.

I have already answered this question when someone else posed it in this very thread. It isn't dodging and I am not going to answer the same question twice due to your intellectual laziness.