Obama to Normalize Relations with Cuba

[Vandalshandle]

About the only Americans that the Cubans have dealt with since the 1940's were either mobsters and Mafia, or our military, which wanted to invade their country. I suspect that it would not be a bad idea for them to see the other side of America.

When the embargoes are lifted, they'll see a lot of America.

The Castro regime has portrayed America as it was during the Batista government when American corporations and mobsters ran Cuba. Batista had abandoned the Cuban constitution by allowing only staged elections in which his victory would be guaranteed and the US government actively supported him.

The Batista supporters, the wealthy and much of the middle class Cubans escaped from Cuba leaving mostly the poor. The wealthy and the middle class that remained suffered under Castro but the poor benefited. After a number of years of struggling, Castro did provide the people with guaranteed jobs, free healthcare, and free education, something that never existed under Batista.

LMFAO... Yeah, the poor benefited SO much under Castro, MANY of them could afford to construct yachts from '57 Chevys and old tires in order to cruise to Miami! ...Guilded Age!

Well, for example, if all you knew about America was what you heard on Fox News, you would probably think.....

Well, I am sure that where I was going with that....

 

[Flopper]

About the only Americans that the Cubans have dealt with since the 1940's were either mobsters and Mafia, or our military, which wanted to invade their country. I suspect that it would not be a bad idea for them to see the other side of America.

When the embargoes are lifted, they'll see a lot of America.

The Castro regime has portrayed America as it was during the Batista government when American corporations and mobsters ran Cuba. Batista had abandoned the Cuban constitution by allowing only staged elections in which his victory would be guaranteed and the US government actively supported him.

The Batista supporters, the wealthy and much of the middle class Cubans escaped from Cuba leaving mostly the poor. The wealthy and the middle class that remained suffered under Castro but the poor benefited. After a number of years of struggling, Castro did provide the people with guaranteed jobs, free healthcare, and free education, something that never existed under Batista.

LMFAO... Yeah, the poor benefited SO much under Castro, MANY of them could afford to construct yachts from '57 Chevys and old tires in order to cruise to Miami! ...Guilded Age!

The improvement in the lives of the poor under Castro has been dramati although slow in coming but only because most Cubans in the 1950's lived in extreme poverty. The illiteracy rate in Cuba in the 1950's was 50% due to the fact that there were essentially no schools available to the poor in rural areas. Healthcare for the poor was also mostly inaccessible in the 1950's. Today both education and healthcare is free. Cuba spends 10% of it's budget on education compared to 2% in the US. Cuba's educational system has been highly ranked for many years and it's literacy rate is nearly 100%. The life expectancy has risen to 78 and Cuba's unemployment rate stands at 3.3%.

The major economic problem in the Cuban workplace is lack of upward mobility which is common in communist countries. The major problem in the economy is lack of new investment which is understandable because the government restricts all foreign investments.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Castro is not dumb, and neither is his brother. They may be holding the political line, but only to make sure that change is incorporated in measured stages. They are not blind. They know damned well that the communist system is dead. They can either evolve like China, Vietnam or Russia, or regress like N. Korea. The status quo is not an option, moving forward.

 

[Flopper]

Castro is not dumb, and neither is his brother. They may be holding the political line, but only to make sure that change is incorporated in measured stages. They are not blind. They know damned well that the communist system is dead. They can either evolve like China, Vietnam or Russia, or regress like N. Korea. The status quo is not an option, moving forward.

Raul Castro will be stepping down as Cuba's president in 2018 following a final five-year term, for the first time putting a date on the end of the Castro era. Miguel Diaz-Canel has been tapped to succeed Castro. Since he's not really a product of the revolution but rather a top manager in the government makes him an unknown factor. However, since the party goal has been stated as obtainment of a mixed economy, that's probably his goal. If that's so, then this could make negotiations easier.

 

[Katzndogz]

The reason why Cuba has been successful in education is because the children are not allowed the freedoms of self expression. Not an altogether bad thing. Education into communist doctrine continues in the home where parents must follow The Code of Parents or go to prison.

Putting bad parents in prison may be something we should look into.

 

[Nutz]

The reason why Cuba has been successful in education is because the children are not allowed the freedoms of self expression. Not an altogether bad thing. Education into communist doctrine continues in the home where parents must follow The Code of Parents or go to prison.

Putting bad parents in prison may be something we should look into.

We wouldn't want to abridge your freedoms.

 

[Katzndogz]

So far obumble is making all the concessions. When is Cuba going to make a concession?

 

[Flopper]

So far obumble is making all the concessions. When is Cuba going to make a concession?

What concessions has Obama made?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The reason why Cuba has been successful in education is because the children are not allowed the freedoms of self expression. Not an altogether bad thing. Education into communist doctrine continues in the home where parents must follow The Code of Parents or go to prison.

Putting bad parents in prison may be something we should look into.

You don't understand.

Continuing a failed policy toward Cuba won't change any of that.

 

[Nutz]

The reason why Cuba has been successful in education is because the children are not allowed the freedoms of self expression. Not an altogether bad thing. Education into communist doctrine continues in the home where parents must follow The Code of Parents or go to prison.

Putting bad parents in prison may be something we should look into.

You don't understand.

Continuing a failed policy toward Cuba won't change any of that.

You are talking to a person who is rooting against America...all because of a President of a darker hue. Traitorous...absolutely pathetic...rooting for Russia. Anti-American scum. Quit wasting your time, CCJ!

 

[Katzndogz]

The reason why Cuba has been successful in education is because the children are not allowed the freedoms of self expression. Not an altogether bad thing. Education into communist doctrine continues in the home where parents must follow The Code of Parents or go to prison.

Putting bad parents in prison may be something we should look into.

You don't understand.

Continuing a failed policy toward Cuba won't change any of that.

The policy wasn't a failure. It has been successful for decades.

 

[Boss]

About the only Americans that the Cubans have dealt with since the 1940's were either mobsters and Mafia, or our military, which wanted to invade their country. I suspect that it would not be a bad idea for them to see the other side of America.

When the embargoes are lifted, they'll see a lot of America.

The Castro regime has portrayed America as it was during the Batista government when American corporations and mobsters ran Cuba. Batista had abandoned the Cuban constitution by allowing only staged elections in which his victory would be guaranteed and the US government actively supported him.

The Batista supporters, the wealthy and much of the middle class Cubans escaped from Cuba leaving mostly the poor. The wealthy and the middle class that remained suffered under Castro but the poor benefited. After a number of years of struggling, Castro did provide the people with guaranteed jobs, free healthcare, and free education, something that never existed under Batista.

LMFAO... Yeah, the poor benefited SO much under Castro, MANY of them could afford to construct yachts from '57 Chevys and old tires in order to cruise to Miami! ...Guilded Age!

The improvement in the lives of the poor under Castro has been dramati although slow in coming but only because most Cubans in the 1950's lived in extreme poverty. The illiteracy rate in Cuba in the 1950's was 50% due to the fact that there were essentially no schools available to the poor in rural areas. Healthcare for the poor was also mostly inaccessible in the 1950's. Today both education and healthcare is free. Cuba spends 10% of it's budget on education compared to 2% in the US. Cuba's educational system has been highly ranked for many years and it's literacy rate is nearly 100%. The life expectancy has risen to 78 and Cuba's unemployment rate stands at 3.3%.

The major economic problem in the Cuban workplace is lack of upward mobility which is common in communist countries. The major problem in the economy is lack of new investment which is understandable because the government restricts all foreign investments.

Oh yes, and in spite of how glorious life is in Cuba today as compared to yesterday, they are still building their yachts from '57 Chevys and old tires to take a cruise to Miami! Their lavish lifestyles know no bounds! Our coast guard sometimes has to pull them in because they've lived so opulently they must've ran out of food and water.

Flops, you've been pumped full of some really great propaganda.

 

[Katzndogz]

Time for another Mariel boat lift.

 

[Flopper]

About the only Americans that the Cubans have dealt with since the 1940's were either mobsters and Mafia, or our military, which wanted to invade their country. I suspect that it would not be a bad idea for them to see the other side of America.

When the embargoes are lifted, they'll see a lot of America.

The Castro regime has portrayed America as it was during the Batista government when American corporations and mobsters ran Cuba. Batista had abandoned the Cuban constitution by allowing only staged elections in which his victory would be guaranteed and the US government actively supported him.

The Batista supporters, the wealthy and much of the middle class Cubans escaped from Cuba leaving mostly the poor. The wealthy and the middle class that remained suffered under Castro but the poor benefited. After a number of years of struggling, Castro did provide the people with guaranteed jobs, free healthcare, and free education, something that never existed under Batista.

LMFAO... Yeah, the poor benefited SO much under Castro, MANY of them could afford to construct yachts from '57 Chevys and old tires in order to cruise to Miami! ...Guilded Age!

The improvement in the lives of the poor under Castro has been dramati although slow in coming but only because most Cubans in the 1950's lived in extreme poverty. The illiteracy rate in Cuba in the 1950's was 50% due to the fact that there were essentially no schools available to the poor in rural areas. Healthcare for the poor was also mostly inaccessible in the 1950's. Today both education and healthcare is free. Cuba spends 10% of it's budget on education compared to 2% in the US. Cuba's educational system has been highly ranked for many years and it's literacy rate is nearly 100%. The life expectancy has risen to 78 and Cuba's unemployment rate stands at 3.3%.

The major economic problem in the Cuban workplace is lack of upward mobility which is common in communist countries. The major problem in the economy is lack of new investment which is understandable because the government restricts all foreign investments.

Oh yes, and in spite of how glorious life is in Cuba today as compared to yesterday, they are still building their yachts from '57 Chevys and old tires to take a cruise to Miami! Their lavish lifestyles know no bounds! Our coast guard sometimes has to pull them in because they've lived so opulently they must've ran out of food and water.

Flops, you've been pumped full of some really great propaganda.

I have never claim life in Cuba was good, it's just a lot better for the poor than it was before Castro. There is little upward mobility compared to the US. The upper middle class hardly exists.

Cuba has come a long way since the revolution but they have a long way to go before life in Cuba comes even close to life in the US. In 1980, 91% of all jobs were government jobs. Today, that's drop to 78%. Property ownership by government is still high but within the last 10 years a number of businesses have been moved into the private sector.

The Communistic Party has endorsed an economic plan that would create a mixed economic system with a goal of 7% growth and a large private sector. The success of that plan depends a lot on opening up Cuba to the US.

 

[Boss]

About the only Americans that the Cubans have dealt with since the 1940's were either mobsters and Mafia, or our military, which wanted to invade their country. I suspect that it would not be a bad idea for them to see the other side of America.

When the embargoes are lifted, they'll see a lot of America.

The Castro regime has portrayed America as it was during the Batista government when American corporations and mobsters ran Cuba. Batista had abandoned the Cuban constitution by allowing only staged elections in which his victory would be guaranteed and the US government actively supported him.

The Batista supporters, the wealthy and much of the middle class Cubans escaped from Cuba leaving mostly the poor. The wealthy and the middle class that remained suffered under Castro but the poor benefited. After a number of years of struggling, Castro did provide the people with guaranteed jobs, free healthcare, and free education, something that never existed under Batista.

LMFAO... Yeah, the poor benefited SO much under Castro, MANY of them could afford to construct yachts from '57 Chevys and old tires in order to cruise to Miami! ...Guilded Age!

The improvement in the lives of the poor under Castro has been dramati although slow in coming but only because most Cubans in the 1950's lived in extreme poverty. The illiteracy rate in Cuba in the 1950's was 50% due to the fact that there were essentially no schools available to the poor in rural areas. Healthcare for the poor was also mostly inaccessible in the 1950's. Today both education and healthcare is free. Cuba spends 10% of it's budget on education compared to 2% in the US. Cuba's educational system has been highly ranked for many years and it's literacy rate is nearly 100%. The life expectancy has risen to 78 and Cuba's unemployment rate stands at 3.3%.

The major economic problem in the Cuban workplace is lack of upward mobility which is common in communist countries. The major problem in the economy is lack of new investment which is understandable because the government restricts all foreign investments.

Oh yes, and in spite of how glorious life is in Cuba today as compared to yesterday, they are still building their yachts from '57 Chevys and old tires to take a cruise to Miami! Their lavish lifestyles know no bounds! Our coast guard sometimes has to pull them in because they've lived so opulently they must've ran out of food and water.

Flops, you've been pumped full of some really great propaganda.

I have never claim life in Cuba was good, it's just a lot better for the poor than it was before Castro. There is little upward mobility compared to the US. The upper middle class hardly exists.

Cuba has come a long way since the revolution but they have a long way to go before life in Cuba comes even close to life in the US. In 1980, 91% of all jobs were government jobs. Today, that's drop to 78%. Property ownership by government is still high but within the last 10 years a number of businesses have been moved into the private sector.

The Communistic Party has endorsed an economic plan that would create a mixed economic system with a goal of 7% growth and a large private sector. The success of that plan depends a lot on opening up Cuba to the US.

All you are doing is repeating Castro propaganda regarding Cuba. None of it is the least bit true. There is no "upward mobility" in a communist country. You're either part of the ruling class or you're a peasant. There is no entrepreneurial freedom in Cuba, the people do as they are told. When you attempt to mix capitalism and communism, you do not get a true free market system, you get "corporatism" at it's very finest. The ruling class elite amass fortunes at the expense of the workers who remain powerless and poor. That is exactly what we can expect to happen when Cuba is opened up to the US. It's not going to benefit the average Cuban at all.

 

[Katzndogz]

Americans still think that Cuba is going to open up for investment. How droll.

 

[Flopper]

When the embargoes are lifted, they'll see a lot of America.

The Castro regime has portrayed America as it was during the Batista government when American corporations and mobsters ran Cuba. Batista had abandoned the Cuban constitution by allowing only staged elections in which his victory would be guaranteed and the US government actively supported him.

The Batista supporters, the wealthy and much of the middle class Cubans escaped from Cuba leaving mostly the poor. The wealthy and the middle class that remained suffered under Castro but the poor benefited. After a number of years of struggling, Castro did provide the people with guaranteed jobs, free healthcare, and free education, something that never existed under Batista.

LMFAO... Yeah, the poor benefited SO much under Castro, MANY of them could afford to construct yachts from '57 Chevys and old tires in order to cruise to Miami! ...Guilded Age!

The improvement in the lives of the poor under Castro has been dramati although slow in coming but only because most Cubans in the 1950's lived in extreme poverty. The illiteracy rate in Cuba in the 1950's was 50% due to the fact that there were essentially no schools available to the poor in rural areas. Healthcare for the poor was also mostly inaccessible in the 1950's. Today both education and healthcare is free. Cuba spends 10% of it's budget on education compared to 2% in the US. Cuba's educational system has been highly ranked for many years and it's literacy rate is nearly 100%. The life expectancy has risen to 78 and Cuba's unemployment rate stands at 3.3%.

The major economic problem in the Cuban workplace is lack of upward mobility which is common in communist countries. The major problem in the economy is lack of new investment which is understandable because the government restricts all foreign investments.

Oh yes, and in spite of how glorious life is in Cuba today as compared to yesterday, they are still building their yachts from '57 Chevys and old tires to take a cruise to Miami! Their lavish lifestyles know no bounds! Our coast guard sometimes has to pull them in because they've lived so opulently they must've ran out of food and water.

Flops, you've been pumped full of some really great propaganda.

I have never claim life in Cuba was good, it's just a lot better for the poor than it was before Castro. There is little upward mobility compared to the US. The upper middle class hardly exists.

Cuba has come a long way since the revolution but they have a long way to go before life in Cuba comes even close to life in the US. In 1980, 91% of all jobs were government jobs. Today, that's drop to 78%. Property ownership by government is still high but within the last 10 years a number of businesses have been moved into the private sector.

The Communistic Party has endorsed an economic plan that would create a mixed economic system with a goal of 7% growth and a large private sector. The success of that plan depends a lot on opening up Cuba to the US.

All you are doing is repeating Castro propaganda regarding Cuba. None of it is the least bit true. There is no "upward mobility" in a communist country. You're either part of the ruling class or you're a peasant. There is no entrepreneurial freedom in Cuba, the people do as they are told. When you attempt to mix capitalism and communism, you do not get a true free market system, you get "corporatism" at it's very finest. The ruling class elite amass fortunes at the expense of the workers who remain powerless and poor. That is exactly what we can expect to happen when Cuba is opened up to the US. It's not going to benefit the average Cuban at all.

All you are doing is repeating US propaganda regarding Cuba.