Obama Supporters and Liberals Please Explain...

[Mad Scientist]

...how President Obama is smart enough to have "pulled the economy back from the brink" yet doesn't have the slightest clue about job creation?

I'm having trouble understanding how he could do one but not the other. It's all about economics is it not?

It's like the NFL quarterback who knows how to throw passes but can't hand the ball off the the running backs. That kind of player just doesn't exist. Or if he did he'd be benched rather quickly I think.

Please help me understand.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Hello? TM? Anyone?

Yeah, I didn't think you Liberals could explain that one.

 

[LANMaster]

They can't handle the truth!

 

[Cuyo]

Hello? TM? Anyone?

Yeah, I didn't think you Liberals could explain that one.

Because, bless your retarded little soul, unemployment is always the last indicator to fluctuate in any business cycle; Last down, last back up. That should be enough for you to shut up, but I know it isn't. So lets talk specifically about what's been happening around here.

I know it's hard for you to believe in the bubble you've built around yourself, but the economy would only be marginally different regardless of who won. We're coming out of an economy that was bloated to the gills and has contracted. Meanwhile, due to the actions of the private sector and the indifference of both political parties, manufacturing jobs have been sent overseas. Unfortunately, not everyone is cut out to be a hedge fund manager, and there's only so many shit retail jobs to be had. For a whole generation that's been living on borrowed time, the time has come to pay the piper.

Since you're so brilliant, why don't you tell us what he should do? Well he can't create jobs directly, right, that'd be soooooocialism! Sure, he could cut taxes for the rich [Amazing how they've convinced you THAT will suddenly work, despite 30 years of epic failure] and create a bunch more jobs in Asia, but don't we have a deficit problem to worry about as well?

What he's trying to do, much to the chagrin of the Republicans, is position the US as a leader in new economies, namely alternative fuels and smart grid technology. I happen to think that besides re-negotiating trade deals and/or increasing tariffs [my long-held suggestion], that's the best path to sustainability. But it's not an instant gratification endeavor, mmmmkay?

 

[keee keee]

It was the job no-stimulus program that did the trick!!!! Baffoon Hussain Obama is the worst President the United States ever had!!!!

 

[Cuyo]

It was the job no-stimulus program that did the trick!!!! Baffoon Hussain Obama is the worst President the United States ever had!!!!

Ahh yes, now that was very profound. Are you actually a liberal infiltrator, here trying to make conservatives look really dumb? It's Workin!!

 

[Mr Natural]

There won't be any new jobs because we don't produce anymore, just consume.

And the stuff we consume comes from overseas.

Allthat outsourcing is finally coming around to bite us in the ass.

 

[Bob Roberts]

Because, bless your retarded little soul, unemployment is always the last indicator to fluctuate in any business cycle; Last down, last back up. That should be enough for you to shut up, but I know it isn't. So lets talk specifically about what's been happening around here.

I know it's hard for you to believe in the bubble you've built around yourself, but the economy would only be marginally different regardless of who won. We're coming out of an economy that was bloated to the gills and has contracted. Meanwhile, due to the actions of the private sector and the indifference of both political parties, manufacturing jobs have been sent overseas. Unfortunately, not everyone is cut out to be a hedge fund manager, and there's only so many shit retail jobs to be had. For a whole generation that's been living on borrowed time, the time has come to pay the piper.

Since you're so brilliant, why don't you tell us what he should do? Well he can't create jobs directly, right, that'd be soooooocialism! Sure, he could cut taxes for the rich [Amazing how they've convinced you THAT will suddenly work, despite 30 years of epic failure] and create a bunch more jobs in Asia, but don't we have a deficit problem to worry about as well?

What he's trying to do, much to the chagrin of the Republicans, is position the US as a leader in new economies, namely alternative fuels and smart grid technology. I happen to think that besides re-negotiating trade deals and/or increasing tariffs [my long-held suggestion], that's the best path to sustainability. But it's not an instant gratification endeavor, mmmmkay?

I agree with almost all of what wrote. I do disagree with your position regarding trade. I think multilateral trade agreements are important to advance new markets, and sustain capitalism. More open trade levels the playing field for all nations, particularly poorer nations. As poorer nations improve its infrastructure, education, health care, etc, new markets emerge. And as new markets emerge, the US benefits by penetrating these markets. From a medium-to-long-term perspective, the US economy needs new markets to penetrate to sustain a reasonable growth rate.

 

[topspin]

Hey Klansman jobs are being added just not fast enough.

 

[Rozman]

The only possible answer has to be....he doesn't want the economy or job creation to get better.He has a genuine hatred for the Country as it is now.If you have wealth you got it by fraud or corruption or illegally.The liberals from Pelosi to Reed,to Biden,all wealthy people believe that rich people need to be punished.How dare they have more then everyone else.Oh by the way the people I just mentioned are all very wealthy.I saw Ed Shultz from MSNBC tonight talk about the estate tax/death tax....He was angry that people who's relatives have died get money that they haven't EARNED.....They should be taxed heavily and then the government can get their hands on it to distribute among the people.
And they say all the time they are not socialists.People who earn money and get taxed and pay that tax
will now be taxed again after they have passed on....When is the tax on the citizens of the country enough for these people?

 

[Mad Scientist]

Hello? TM? Anyone?

Yeah, I didn't think you Liberals could explain that one.

Since you're so brilliant, why don't you tell us what he should do? Well he can't create jobs directly, right, that'd be soooooocialism! Sure, he could cut taxes for the rich [Amazing how they've convinced you THAT will suddenly work, despite 30 years of epic failure] and create a bunch more jobs in Asia, but don't we have a deficit problem to worry about as well?

What he's trying to do, much to the chagrin of the Republicans, is position the US as a leader in new economies, namely alternative fuels and smart grid technology. I happen to think that besides re-negotiating trade deals and/or increasing tariffs [my long-held suggestion], that's the best path to sustainability. But it's not an instant gratification endeavor, mmmmkay?

I forgive you for your arrogant attitude towards me in your explanation. You can't help yourself, you're a Liberal. You hate people. (Except for yourself whom you consider to be the center of the universe)

Anyway you've asked for my version on how to get the economy going again so here it is:

1. Immediate 20-25% cut in government spending across the board. This includes defense but I'd be willing to cut their budget by only 5-10%.
2. Government Hiring Freeze.
3. Tax cut to all those who pay taxes.
4. Return all unused TARP money.

This puts money back into the average consumers hands and will jump start the economy fairly quickly. But that's precisely why you Liberal/Communists hate tax cuts: It puts the power back into The Peoples' hands. Because as I said: Liberal/Communists hate and don't trust the common people.

This is just a start. I have other ideas that require more political will than the current crop of Democrats have.

 

[Cuyo]

Anyway you've asked for my version on how to get the economy going again so here it is:

1. Immediate 20-25% cut in government spending across the board. This includes defense but I'd be willing to cut their budget by only 5-10%.
2. Government Hiring Freeze.

Both will result in immediate job losses and higher unemployment. Higher unemployment will further stagnate the economy from the bottom up.

3. Tax cut to all those who pay taxes.

Deficit will skyrocket; Not to mention, the stimulus bill was 42% tax cuts.

4. Return all unused TARP money.

There is no TARP spending this year.

This puts money back into the average consumers hands and will jump start the economy fairly quickly. But that's precisely why you Liberal/Communists hate tax cuts: It puts the power back into The Peoples' hands. Because as I said: Liberal/Communists hate and don't trust the common people.

This is just a start. I have other ideas that require more political will than the current crop of Democrats have.

Seriously, dude, you are an utter moron.

Is there anyone here, of any political leaning, who will go on record saying this guy is not an utter moron?

 

[sparky]

Hey Klansman jobs are being added just not fast enough.

maybe they should try the eoe section of the papers

 

[Skull Pilot]

The government cannot create jobs that help the economy.

Every government job is funded by money confiscated from the private sector. For every government job "created" there will be more than one private sector job denied.

 

[topspin]

Hello? TM? Anyone?

Yeah, I didn't think you Liberals could explain that one.

Since you're so brilliant, why don't you tell us what he should do? Well he can't create jobs directly, right, that'd be soooooocialism! Sure, he could cut taxes for the rich [Amazing how they've convinced you THAT will suddenly work, despite 30 years of epic failure] and create a bunch more jobs in Asia, but don't we have a deficit problem to worry about as well?

What he's trying to do, much to the chagrin of the Republicans, is position the US as a leader in new economies, namely alternative fuels and smart grid technology. I happen to think that besides re-negotiating trade deals and/or increasing tariffs [my long-held suggestion], that's the best path to sustainability. But it's not an instant gratification endeavor, mmmmkay?

I forgive you for your arrogant attitude towards me in your explanation. You can't help yourself, you're a Liberal. You hate people. (Except for yourself whom you consider to be the center of the universe)

Anyway you've asked for my version on how to get the economy going again so here it is:

1. Immediate 20-25% cut in government spending across the board. This includes defense but I'd be willing to cut their budget by only 5-10%.
2. Government Hiring Freeze.
3. Tax cut to all those who pay taxes.
4. Return all unused TARP money.

This puts money back into the average consumers hands and will jump start the economy fairly quickly. But that's precisely why you Liberal/Communists hate tax cuts: It puts the power back into The Peoples' hands. Because as I said: Liberal/Communists hate and don't trust the common people.

This is just a start. I have other ideas that require more political will than the current crop of Democrats have.

MY Bad, I'd vote for you tomorrow on that list. Love the include defense, get Palin's handlers to add that and she may crush him.
Again my bad

 

[hipeter924]

Since you're so brilliant, why don't you tell us what he should do? Well he can't create jobs directly, right, that'd be soooooocialism! Sure, he could cut taxes for the rich [Amazing how they've convinced you THAT will suddenly work, despite 30 years of epic failure] and create a bunch more jobs in Asia, but don't we have a deficit problem to worry about as well?

What he's trying to do, much to the chagrin of the Republicans, is position the US as a leader in new economies, namely alternative fuels and smart grid technology. I happen to think that besides re-negotiating trade deals and/or increasing tariffs [my long-held suggestion], that's the best path to sustainability. But it's not an instant gratification endeavor, mmmmkay?

I forgive you for your arrogant attitude towards me in your explanation. You can't help yourself, you're a Liberal. You hate people. (Except for yourself whom you consider to be the center of the universe)

Anyway you've asked for my version on how to get the economy going again so here it is:

1. Immediate 20-25% cut in government spending across the board. This includes defense but I'd be willing to cut their budget by only 5-10%.
2. Government Hiring Freeze.
3. Tax cut to all those who pay taxes.
4. Return all unused TARP money.

This puts money back into the average consumers hands and will jump start the economy fairly quickly. But that's precisely why you Liberal/Communists hate tax cuts: It puts the power back into The Peoples' hands. Because as I said: Liberal/Communists hate and don't trust the common people.

This is just a start. I have other ideas that require more political will than the current crop of Democrats have.

MY Bad, I'd vote for you tomorrow on that list. Love the include defense, get Palin's handlers to add that and she may crush him.
Again my bad

Not far enough on that point.....Voluntary taxation is better as it removes the ability of government to take your money without consent, and allows you to decide if you choose to pay tax where your dollars are spent.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

...how President Obama is smart enough to have "pulled the economy back from the brink" yet doesn't have the slightest clue about job creation?

I'm having trouble understanding how he could do one but not the other. It's all about economics is it not?

It's like the NFL quarterback who knows how to throw passes but can't hand the ball off the the running backs. That kind of player just doesn't exist. Or if he did he'd be benched rather quickly I think.

Please help me understand.

you truly are a dumb fuck, aren't ya? uh huh.

 

[rikules]

...how President Obama is smart enough to have "pulled the economy back from the brink" yet doesn't have the slightest clue about job creation?

I'm having trouble understanding how he could do one but not the other. It's all about economics is it not?

It's like the NFL quarterback who knows how to throw passes but can't hand the ball off the the running backs. That kind of player just doesn't exist. Or if he did he'd be benched rather quickly I think.

Please help me understand.

I did not vote for obama because I thought he could fix all the problems in the country

I voted for obama because I too many conservatives are too full of irrational hatred for sane and rational people.

I voted fo rhim because I can't stand people like limbaugh
coulter
savage

and you

I will ALWAYS vote against any candidate that you support

 

[Samson]

Anyway you've asked for my version on how to get the economy going again so here it is:

1. Immediate 20-25% cut in government spending across the board. This includes defense but I'd be willing to cut their budget by only 5-10%.
2. Government Hiring Freeze.

Both will result in immediate job losses and higher unemployment. Higher unemployment will further stagnate the economy from the bottom up

Well, the fact is, there is no way there can be 20-25% cut in government spending "across the board."

The feds can cut spending, however federal laws remain. Since states must follow federal law, then they will end up paying for federal mandates without the support of federal dollars.

Now if by spending cuts you mean STATE Government spending cuts, then I agree that obviously, state budgets benefit, E.G. Virginia:

The Governor's latest budget announcement includes:[3]

Recovering over $74 million in general fund and more than $68 million in nongeneral fund balances from FY 2009

Capturing savings of over $22 million resulting from Governor's directives to agencies in May to immediately implement cuts in discretionary spending

Reducing agency spending by over $403 million, based primarily on the recommendations made by state agencies in their 5, 10, and 15 percent reduction strategies

Further savings are achieved through targeted strategies that will reduce general fund spending by an additional $446 million-including more than $104 million in reduced payments to the Virginia Retirement System (VRS) for the final quarter of FY 2010.

Contribution rates for the Commonwealth and its employees will be changed in July at the beginning of the next biennium to adequately fund the long-term needs of the retirement system.

$18 million in improved business practices and efficiencies

Nearly $235 million in the reduction or elimination of current services

More than $170 million in reduced personnel costs

More than $28 million in reduced discretionary expenses

The elimination of 929 positions-including 593 layoffs

Reductions of 13 or 15 percent to institutions of higher education

Reductions in administrative costs that will prevent deeper cuts in direct service delivery

Restructuring of Department of Corrections facilities, closing two older facilities and one juvenile correction facility

A one-day furlough of all state employees on the Friday preceeding Memorial Day 2010.

Agencies with critical or emergency personnel are instructed to accommodate staffing needs and make adjustments to the furlough date accordingly

But why aren't Federal Government Employees not being given a Friday Furlough? What about reducing Federal Employee benefits? WTF other American gets to retire after 20 years with full benefits?

 

[hortysir]

There won't be any new jobs because we don't produce anymore, just consume.

And the stuff we consume comes from overseas.

Allthat outsourcing is finally coming around to bite us in the ass.

And the new jobs Cuyo speaks of (green) are so new they're cost prohibitive.
That would cause us to throw even more money at our problem, with no guarantee of a return.
And what's to keep these new and greener jobs from setting sail across the Pacific?