Obama Steps Up Confrontation

[CrusaderFrank]

It's happening right in front of your face, tovarich.

The problem, Dude, is that his face is in Obama's lap

 

[drsmith1072]

Not like this, sometimes you had fighting, but you never saw 100% partisan bills passed with things like reconcilliation.
The system is breaking down, its not supposed to be a tyranny of the majority, but the current gov has either forgotten this or is ignoring it.

The voters will decide which it is.

simply put, what you are saying, is NOT TRUE....

and THIS shows your flawed thinking on matters imo xeno.

BOTH SIDES have done things like this, to the SAME DEPTH.....me thinks you need to take those rosey colored glasses off, and see the truth about republicans in congress and the DEPTH OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE previously, when they had the majority....

no knowledgeable person on politics could honestly make that statement of yours....

your ''side'' that you choose to honor, is as slimy as the rest of the bunch!

this is why i think arguing about these measures is fruitless....and yes, sad at that!

care

(bolding mine)

Have to disagree there... I don't believe 14+ states ever went to court to counter the passage of one of Bush's bills...

No way is it the SAME DEPTH....

Just because republican morons who feel forced to do something out of a desperate need to try and save face with their base after being defeated in what republicans were calling obama's waterloo it does not make this instance any deeper than anything else in the past. However, thanks for the spin.

To me, it does show that republicans are much shallower and desperate than anyone else in the past. LOL

Furthermore, republicans talking about repealing the legislation are doing so only to suck up donations despite the fact that the chances of repealing it are slim to none.

Based on all reports that I have heard the chances of these suits accomplishing anything are about the same. IMO, It's nothing more than a ploy to make the base feel as though the republicans are doing something about it when they stand little chance of actually accomplishing anything.

 

[The T]

It's happening right in front of your face, tovarich.

The problem, Dude, is that his face is in Obama's lap

Giving a 'Blumpkin'

 

[drsmith1072]

simply put, what you are saying, is NOT TRUE....

and THIS shows your flawed thinking on matters imo xeno.

BOTH SIDES have done things like this, to the SAME DEPTH.....me thinks you need to take those rosey colored glasses off, and see the truth about republicans in congress and the DEPTH OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE previously, when they had the majority....

no knowledgeable person on politics could honestly make that statement of yours....

your ''side'' that you choose to honor, is as slimy as the rest of the bunch!

this is why i think arguing about these measures is fruitless....and yes, sad at that!

care

(bolding mine)

Have to disagree there... I don't believe 14+ states ever went to court to counter the passage of one of Bush's bills...

No way is it the SAME DEPTH....

Ditto.

If evidence to "see the truth about republicans in congress and the DEPTH OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE previously, when they had the majority," exists, then why not present it?

Acts of congress are generally public record

Care4all's imagination, sadly, is not.

The original claim was made by the righty so why not ask them to prove their argument instead of asking others to prove you wrong??

Not like this, sometimes you had fighting, but you never saw 100% partisan bills passed with things like reconcilliation.
The system is breaking down, its not supposed to be a tyranny of the majority, but the current gov has either forgotten this or is ignoring it.

 

[Old Rocks]

Its called circumventing the system.

Did the same thing happen often under previous presidents?

Not like this, sometimes you had fighting, but you never saw 100% partisan bills passed with things like reconcilliation.
The system is breaking down, its not supposed to be a tyranny of the majority, but the current gov has either forgotten this or is ignoring it.

The voters will decide which it is.

Just more bullshit. The Repukes used reconcilliation 14 times in the last twenty years, the Dems have used it 9 times. We still have 5 to go to even the score

 

[Old Rocks]

No, it's not about control, nope, not at all.

Now Frank, you bunch screwed up royally for eight years. Two failed wars, a near depression. You gave the Dems control of both houses, and the Presidency through your boy's incompetance.

Of course it is about control. The Dems have the power and control, through the democratic elective process. If the American Citizen decides they have done a poor job, then the next election will see many of the Dems pay a price for that. If the same Citizen decides they have done well, and the Repubs have continued their policy of failure, then the Dems might actually buck the trend and gain seats in an off year election.

 

[drsmith1072]

The great divider, Barry just is a political gift that keeps on giving, if you are the opposition party.

Obama Takes More Aggressive Tack - WSJ.com

Mr. Obama campaigned on calling for an end to partisan bickering in Washington, but once in office he launched an ambitious agenda that pursued several long-held Democratic goals.

Meanwhile, Republicans decided at an early stage to aggressively oppose most of Mr. Obama's agenda. Partisan tensions have run high for most of his term.

Recently, Mr. Obama has been swinging particularly hard. He followed up his "go for it" taunt Thursday with the recess appointment of union lawyer Craig Becker to the National Labor Relations Board, adopting a tactic that presidents of both parties have used in recent decades to skirt the normal confirmation process. Mr. Becker's confirmation had been blocked in the Senate by a filibuster in February.

On Tuesday, Mr. Obama will sign what has been billed as a package of fixes to the health-care bill, approved under rules that required only a simple majority vote to pass in the Senate. That nullified Republicans' power to block it through a filibuster.

Democrats attached to the bill a major overhaul of student-lending laws, which eliminated a federal subsidy for private tuition lenders, federalized most student loans and plowed the savings into expanded federal higher education aid. Republicans say the bill will destroy the private student-lending market.

Mr. Alexander, the Tennessee Republican, called the student-loan move "really brazen" and "the most underreported, biggest Washington takeover in history."

So little time, and so much to repeal.

Plank #5 of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto:

Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

Check.

Once again the desperate and dishonest righties take ONE aspect and dishonestly try to apply it to the whole in an attempt to support their dishonest claims that obama is a socialist/communist/whatever else they wish to call him. How does this move equal centralization of credit as a whole??

 

[L.K.Eder]

The great divider, Barry just is a political gift that keeps on giving, if you are the opposition party.

Obama Takes More Aggressive Tack - WSJ.com

Mr. Obama campaigned on calling for an end to partisan bickering in Washington, but once in office he launched an ambitious agenda that pursued several long-held Democratic goals.

Meanwhile, Republicans decided at an early stage to aggressively oppose most of Mr. Obama's agenda. Partisan tensions have run high for most of his term.

Recently, Mr. Obama has been swinging particularly hard. He followed up his "go for it" taunt Thursday with the recess appointment of union lawyer Craig Becker to the National Labor Relations Board, adopting a tactic that presidents of both parties have used in recent decades to skirt the normal confirmation process. Mr. Becker's confirmation had been blocked in the Senate by a filibuster in February.

On Tuesday, Mr. Obama will sign what has been billed as a package of fixes to the health-care bill, approved under rules that required only a simple majority vote to pass in the Senate. That nullified Republicans' power to block it through a filibuster.

Democrats attached to the bill a major overhaul of student-lending laws, which eliminated a federal subsidy for private tuition lenders, federalized most student loans and plowed the savings into expanded federal higher education aid. Republicans say the bill will destroy the private student-lending market.

Mr. Alexander, the Tennessee Republican, called the student-loan move "really brazen" and "the most underreported, biggest Washington takeover in history."

So little time, and so much to repeal.

Plank #5 of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto:

Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

Check.

you truly are an expert on marxism, after all you stated hitler admired marx in "mein kampf". go fire up your hibachi.

 

[mudwhistle]

Its called circumventing the system.

Did the same thing happen often under previous presidents?

Yep. And the sore losers, on either side, always cry about it.

What....you didn't do it for 8 fucken years....I'm just saying.

 

[CMike]

We need to get back congress from the marxists.

Once we do Barak Hussein's next step will be to legislate using executive orders.

 

[CMike]

Did the same thing happen often under previous presidents?

Not like this, sometimes you had fighting, but you never saw 100% partisan bills passed with things like reconcilliation.
The system is breaking down, its not supposed to be a tyranny of the majority, but the current gov has either forgotten this or is ignoring it.

The voters will decide which it is.

Just more bullshit. The Repukes used reconcilliation 14 times in the last twenty years, the Dems have used it 9 times. We still have 5 to go to even the score

Reconcilation was never perverted in the way the communist leader has done.

It's supposed to be used. It's not supposed to be used to create a whole new entitlement.

 

[RodISHI]

It appears that taking away the student loans back from the banks that have abused the privatization of government lending programs has a few too many people in a tizzy. See, this is what happens when abuse and corruption runs wild and both sides refuse to address the situation properly. I still believe that taking away the guaranteed loan programs away from the banks is the proper course of action. My hopes would be that the privatization of SBA would also be eliminated as it is also abused to the max.

 

[Misty]

Tissue?

Don't you have some cake to wolf down. get to it. Chop chop.

 

[bodecea]

Tissue?

Yeah...this is the same group that had Newt Gingrich as their leader whining about not getting to leave Air Force 1 from the front door.

 

[driveby]

Not like this, sometimes you had fighting, but you never saw 100% partisan bills passed with things like reconcilliation.
The system is breaking down, its not supposed to be a tyranny of the majority, but the current gov has either forgotten this or is ignoring it.

The voters will decide which it is.

Liar Liar, Pants on Fire.

PolitiFact | Bush tax cuts were passed with reconciliation's 50 votes

We know from our previous reporting that Grayson is also correct that reconciliation was used 22 times overall and 14 times by Republicans.

The 2003 tax cuts were also passed by reconciliation. These were more controversial, because at this point the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan had started, and later the same year Congress passed a Medicare prescription drug benefit. The vote in the Senate was 51-50, with vice president Dick Cheney breaking the tie. (The vice president is technically the president of the Senate and can break ties.) In this vote, only two Democrats joined the Republicans.

The 2003 tax cuts included a number of measures, but the most significant reductions were taxes on dividends and capital gains taxes. Typically, these taxes are on investment income, and those cuts tend to give a bigger break to taxpayers with higher incomes.

Pretty sure this Health Care Bill passed with more votes than that.

Are you seriously comparing the Bush tax cuts to the Health Care legislation ? Seriously ?........

 

[driveby]

Did the same thing happen often under previous presidents?

Not like this, sometimes you had fighting, but you never saw 100% partisan bills passed with things like reconcilliation.
The system is breaking down, its not supposed to be a tyranny of the majority, but the current gov has either forgotten this or is ignoring it.

The voters will decide which it is.

Just more bullshit. The Repukes used reconcilliation 14 times in the last twenty years, the Dems have used it 9 times. We still have 5 to go to even the score

We is a horse turd, hack .........

 

[AquaAthena]

The Shadow Government....

In a few months, it will all be better for the country and economy, even though it will take some time for real "hope and change" that will turn this corrosive machine's effects around. *deep breaths*

 

[jillian]

So little time, and so much to repeal.

i'm thinking your dreams of that are going to be shattered.

 

[CMike]

Actually after the dems lose congress, Barak Hussein will then rule by executive orders.

 

[The T]

Actually after the dems lose congress, Barak Hussein will then rule by executive orders.

He's already trying it on for size...