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Yea, its fucking disgusting.
I've been against the Patriot Act since day one. I remember when it was first manifested the liberals were kicking and screaming about it, however now that Obama extends the fucking thing its perfectly fine.
It seems Rand Paul is the only patriot in the Senate.
If people only knew how the government and legislators use the Patriot Act.
I was ALWAYS against the Partiot act and waterboarding. Still am.
I was ALWAYS against the Partiot act and waterboarding. Still am.
Yup, me too. We gotta keep pushing the President AND Congress on this.
Regardless of which party is in power, doing right is always right and doing wrong is always wrong. The PATRIOT Act has, to my knowledge, never received the kind of scrunity and attention it demanded in the debate leading up to its original passage, much less its renewals. We need a national discussion of the legislation this time, particularly given that it is now being expanded, rather than downscaled as in previous renewals.
To my mind, the PATRIOT Act hinges on three questions:
(1) Are its provisions in line with our constitional protections?
(2) How effective have its provisions been in achieving its purpose?
(3) Is the trade off in liberty worth the alleged gain in security?
Of course it's easier to just be lazy and let your congressman do your thinking for you. They never lead us astray.
Who could? I saw these guys at Kings Island last October. I, for one, wouldn't want to bump into one of these guys in a dark alley some night.Just like attending a church for 20+ years doesn't mean he believes, you lefties couldn't stand man to man in a midget wrestling contest.
Who could? I saw these guys at Kings Island last October. I, for one, wouldn't want to bump into one of these guys in a dark alley some night.Just like attending a church for 20+ years doesn't mean he believes, you lefties couldn't stand man to man in a midget wrestling contest.
The Obama ran against everything GWB did - He advertised Himself as "change" from the failed policies of GWB.
And so, what has The Obama done since taking office?
Continued, if not expanded, just about every one of those policies.
If GWB was a terrible President because of those policies, it is impossible to escape the conclusion that, The Obama, by continuing and expanding those polices, is worse.
Seems Obama and the Dems love Bush's Patriot Act more then the GOP does.
What a change taking the White House has made.
Obama signed the thing by Auto-Pen while taking a break from embarassing himself in Europe.
Now I feel safer.(Sarcasm intended)
It's okay now. A Democrap did it.
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