Obama selling out our own college graduates?

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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jBb70Dc3Ug&feature=youtube_gdata_player]Jobless engineer's wife questions Pres. Obama about 1 million new immigrants a year - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    I don't like NumbersUSA -- but they are correct on this account..

    Even tho there are AMPLE openings in the tech field right now -- they are often filled by H1B visa workers requiring substantially lower wages. If we want to fill our Grad schools with AMERICAN kids, we have to show them that the DEMAND for those skills is gonna make it worth their while..

    Dirty little Silicon Valley secret BTW is --- A LOT of the H1B workers are hired because the OWNER or MANAGEMENT is from the home country. I've been in dozens of "chinese" shops or "indian" shops where all I understood (unless they were talking with me) was the American slang and cuss words.

    That's just personal preference to populate those tech communities with solid UNIculturalism..
    But we shouldn't make them comfortable if it means graduates and American workers are gonna be left unemployed.
     
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    Today is the first I've heard of Numbersusa. I saw the ad and thought it was worthy of sharing.
     
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    I don't indict sources Gramps. But I've seen some of their supporters on this very board making really nasty comments. There's nothing wrong with that Ad as a topic IMHO..
     
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    On this I'll agree with you:



    What do you think about those plans?
     
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    Good post.
     
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    Obama cares more about the rest of the world than Americans. Where are all these trillions going to? Not to the poor or the middle class! Nope, not to better our own children or nation....It is unbelievable.
     
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    Certainly do NOT need to raise quotas higher. At least not for High Tech slots. Faced with the clear contraction of the US workforce, these are exactly the jobs that will lead us out of recession. And I'd prefer that Americans do those jobs. If we're not turning enough in the science, tech, engineering, areas --- then THAT'S what has to be fixed.

    The bolded part above is certainly true. And I appreciate the contribution HERE in the US. I've worked with and for a number of excellent immigrants. But we need to encourage OUR kids to fill those slots. Or this contraction will never end..

    And DEFINATELY NOT "Grant permanent residency to eligible graduates with advanced degrees in math, science, and engineering". If anything -- we should grant preference to American students in our tech. Grad Schools and not fill them out with Foreign students.

    Those schools are one of our "proprietary resources" and should be serving OUR future needs.

    And yes Candy -- I KNOW who's platform that is.. It's ill-conceived, but not much diff from tweedle-dee.
     
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    It's basically the anti-thesis of the complaint in the OP. Yet guess who grumps is voting for.
     
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    Most likely Romney but for other reasons. Can't agree with everything someone proposes no matter who they are.
     

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