Obama says they are calling me a Socialist

[Truthseeker420]

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[daveman]

 

[oreo]

Then prove the following: Democratic Socialists of America did not create the New Party
Prove to me that Obama was not a member of the New Party

Wealth redistribution is socialism and that's what Barack Obama is all about. In fact here is a democrat and CEO calling Barack Obama a SOCIALIST.

"I'm saying it bluntly, that this administration is the greatest wet blanket to business, progress and job creation in my lifetime. A lot of people don't want to say that. They'll say, 'Oh God, don't be attacking Obama.' Well, this is Obama's deal, and it's Obama that's responsible for this fear in America."

"The guy [Obama] keeps making speeches about redistribution, and maybe 'we ought to do something to businesses that don't invest or hold too much money.' We haven't heard that kind of talk except from pure socialists."

"Business is being hammered. The business community in this country is frightened to death of the weird political philosophy of the president of the United States. Until he's gone, everybody's going to be sitting on their thumbs."

Steve Wynn's Anti-Obama Rant - Is He Right? - CBS News

 

[Unkotare]

I've had an interest in North Korea for 15 years or so.....

Oh, here we go again...

 

[Uncensored2008]

When did the left stop seeing people as individuals?

The left has never seen people as individuals. Stalin said that people are cogs in the great machine, with no value beyond their function to the state. Marx taught that people are a resource like any other, that they are no more valuable than lumber or coal, the worth of a person is in their function. The concept of life as having value is a purely Judeo-Christian one.

And what's stopping them from negotiating their own deals?

Nothing. We truly are a free nation, any person can negotiate any deal that others will agree to.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You are an honest guy, wingy...

ROFL

RW is to "honest" as Ru Paul is to "Macho."

...I have no trouble believing that you haven't studied the DSA, or the New Party.

I have. And the OP has.

If all of you Lefties knew what we know, you would be a real rightwinger.

I have trouble believing anything RW posts, ever.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I think it's time to start viewing Obama as a Dictator. Fresh out of the closet.

What you mean "start?"

 

[CaughtInTheMid]

Huh?

so·cial·ism/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
Noun:

A political and economic theory of that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated...
(in Marxist theory) A transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.

That describes the GObP/Repub party.

It also describes the Repub health care system where we all have to pay for the care of those who do not or cannot pay for themselves.

Its the opposite of ObamaCare.

It's not about the way socialism works its about the outcome...

Would a heart be a heart if it pumped backwards??

At the end of the day our government redistributes wealth to those who do nothing... That is socialism or at least the end result is the end result of socialism.

If it makes you any happier I would gladly rename the government redistribution of wealth "Obamunism" and you know what?? I will also claim that new economic ideology is a synonym to socialism..

Happy?

"Obamunism"

there are lots of examples of wealth being redistributed. as one small example, did you know that it's legal for members of congress to "inside" trade?

 

[AquaAthena]

Then prove the following: Democratic Socialists of America did not create the New Party
Prove to me that Obama was not a member of the New Party

"Obama says, they are calling me a socialist."

"They" are being naive. He is much worse and if he wins a second term you will see him really getting started. What ever we do, we MUST hold on to our real property rights, or we will be looking at serfdom and a dictator who controls our very lives.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You are an honest guy, wingy...

ROFL

RW is to "honest" as Ru Paul is to "Macho."

...I have no trouble believing that you haven't studied the DSA, or the New Party.

I have. And the OP has.

If all of you Lefties knew what we know, you would be a real rightwinger.

I have trouble believing anything RW posts, ever.

Actually, he is honest as to not knowing about the DSA or the Progressive Caucus in Congress....
....the prob is that the folks who support the Left are purposefully ignorant....

1. Check this out:
"Stephanopoulos appeared on The Sean Hannity Show and New York radio station WOR's The Steve Malzberg Show, where both Hannity and Malzberg suggested to Stephanopoulos that he ask Obama about Ayers."
Right-wing radio hosts suggested "damn good" Ayers question to Stephanopoulos day before Dem debate | Media Matters for America
He didn't know about Ayers!!

2. CBS's Bob Schieffer on Sunday said the reason he didn't ask Attorney General Eric Holder about the New Black Panther Party voter intimidation case on last week's "Face the Nation" was because he didn't know about it.

Chatting with Howard Kurtz on CNN's "Reliable Sources," Schieffer said, "This all really became a story when the whistleblower came out and testified that he'd had to leave the Justice Department and so on. And, frankly, had I known about that, I would have asked the question."
His excuse?
"I was on vacation that week. This happened -- apparently, it got very little publicity. And, you know, I just didn't know about it" (video follows with transcript and commentary):
Bob Schieffer: What Black Panther Story? 'I Was on Vacation' - Archive - Fox Nation

3. Several Chicago readers and Twitterers report that ABC News anchor Charlie Gibson told WLS-AM Chicago talk show hosts Don Wade and Roma this morning that the reason he hasn’t covered the ACORN scandal is that he didn’t know about it.
“…Charlie Gibson on as their usual Tuesday morning guest. Don asked Charlie, why, after the senate last night voted to halt funding to ACORN and after three of those video tapes of ACORN employees helping the pimp and prostitute set up shop, there was no mention of it anywhere on the network news. Charlie gave out a most uncomfortable laugh and said that that was the first he heard of it!”

ABC’s Jake Tapper reported on the Census Bureau’s decision to drop ACORN from its data collection partnerships on Friday as a result of BigGovernment.com’s video stings.
Gibson also admitted to Don and Roma that he didn’t know about the Senate vote to de-fund ACORN.
Michelle Malkin » ACORN Watch: Charlie Gibson and the ostrich media; Update: Audio added

4. But, of course, there is the alternative view, as revealed by Aldous Huxley in “Ends and Means.” “Most ignorance is vincible ignorance. We don’t know because we don’t want to know, It is our will that decides how and upon what subjects we shall use our intelligence. Those who detect no meaning in the world generally do so because, for one reason or another, it suits their books that the world should be meaningless.”(p. 312)

 

[daveman]

When did the left stop seeing people as individuals?

The left has never seen people as individuals. Stalin said that people are cogs in the great machine, with no value beyond their function to the state. Marx taught that people are a resource like any other, that they are no more valuable than lumber or coal, the worth of a person is in their function. The concept of life as having value is a purely Judeo-Christian one.

And what's stopping them from negotiating their own deals?

Nothing. We truly are a free nation, any person can negotiate any deal that others will agree to.

Amazing how many people just can't understand that.

 

[Dragon]

[You don't see individuals. You see blocs.

We DO see individuals. We ALSO see blocs. You don't.

We are guaranteed equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome.

We are NOT guaranteed equality of opportunity, nor do you believe in it. The child of rich parents begins life with a huge head start and has opportunities denied to others. You see nothing wrong with this, so don't go talking about "equality of opportunity" as if it were something important to you.

 

[daveman]

[You don't see individuals. You see blocs.

We DO see individuals. We ALSO see blocs. You don't.

You can't have it both ways.

We are guaranteed equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome.

We are NOT guaranteed equality of opportunity, nor do you believe in it.

Arrogantpricksayswhat?

The child of rich parents begins life with a huge head start and has opportunities denied to others. You see nothing wrong with this, so don't go talking about "equality of opportunity" as if it were something important to you.

Your problem is this nation was set up with the equality of opportunity in mind, not equality of results. That's why you can't create your leftist Utopia without destroying the very fabric of this nation.

You see nothing wrong with this.

Furthermore, you can't make everyone equally happy, so you will settle for making everyone equally miserable, just as your philosophy has done all throughout history.

You see nothing wrong with this.

 

[Foxfyre]

[You don't see individuals. You see blocs.

We DO see individuals. We ALSO see blocs. You don't.

We are guaranteed equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome.

We are NOT guaranteed equality of opportunity, nor do you believe in it. The child of rich parents begins life with a huge head start and has opportunities denied to others. You see nothing wrong with this, so don't go talking about "equality of opportunity" as if it were something important to you.

But everybody's parents, grand parents, ancesters had opportunity to improve themselves, educate themselves, achieve as much as possible and give their progeny a head start. Not everybody took advantage of that and such has become epidemic once the government started taking over the role of parenting and providing for those who will not provide for themselves. There are consequences for not doing what we can do to get ahead, and sometimes our kids also experience those consequences.

My husband and both came from humble beginnings--he didn't have indoor plumbing until he was 21 yrs old--but we worked hard to give our kids a leg up to achieve more and better things that we could achieve They weren't given not graduating highschool as an option. They weren't given not learning a trade and learning the value of a dollar and what is necessary to earn one as an option. They weren't given not going to college as an option. We have never been wealthy in any sense of the word at least when compared to other Americans. But the kids have achieved excellence in their respective careers and are doing very well financially and in every other way. They took advantage of the opportunities they had. They also could have chosen to not take advantage of some or all of those opportunities. Because they usually chose wisely, they are in a position to offer opportunities to their kids that they or their parents didn't have. There is nothing wrong with that.

I had fewer opportunitiies handed to me than did most of my classmates and endured family issues that most of them did not have to endure. But what I have made of the opportunities I had were strictly up to me and nobody hindered me for taking advantage of them. Any regrets for things I wanted to do and didn't get to do? Sure. But still I have managed to have a widely varied and interesting working life without any help from the federal government. And except for a summer job with the New Mexico State Police when I was in college, I have never held a government job.

Of course we don't all start from the same place because there are consequences for the choices made before us and consequences for the choices that we make. But the opportunities are the same for all in this country. It is just that all don't make the most of them or do what is necessary to access them.