Obama says they are calling me a Socialist

Nah, people who refer to the Preisdent as obamaturd are the foolish idoits.

Oh? Not like those who say "Ray Gun..."

Ronnie earned it with his "Star War Missile Defense" dream. Doubt you can say the same about Barak

I have never referred to Obama as anything but President Obama, Obama, POTUS, CIC.....

But I recall many on this board...to this day...referring to Bush as "shrub".....along with many other names.....
 
The Prime Minister of Israel explained it once: The only country in the Middle East where Arabs are free is Israel.

One Palestinian killed an infant with the butt of his riffle. Eventually, he went to prison in Lebanon. He got out and was hailed as a hero by the Palestinians. Heroes in my book save lives. They don’t murder babies, but that is how Palestinians think.

The only Palestinian leaders are those who propose violence. You cannot espouse moderation or peace in Palestine and be a leader.

The Israelis are at fault too. They have made it illegal to murder children in school buses. I guess that they just don’t like murderers.

I guess that we should be even handed. We should see the Israelis as half bad, and those who murdered 2500 people in the World Trade Center as half good.

Personally, if the violent Muslims would ever behave like they were half good, I would be willing to treat them like half good.

PS. Palestinian leaders make peace agreements sometimes, but then they immediately return to violence.

I do like the way you ignore Israeli terrorism as if it doesn't and never existed.
 
Ronnie earned it with his "Star War Missile Defense" dream. Doubt you can say the same about Barak

Proving once again that there is NO hypocrisy like demopocrisy.

BTW, Your Messiah® continues to fund SDI, which was revived by Clinton - because it's just common fucking sense.

Proving he is not my messiah by funding a boondoggle gift to the military industry. It's not common sense because it could be easily rendered useless by drones or fake missiles, decoys.
 
No, what we want is redistribution of wealth to those who work, as opposed to those who own. Different kettle of fish altogether.
That's easy. Prove to your boss you're worth a raise. Negotiate a new salary.

Oh, wait, what am I saying? That's toooo haaaaard!! Much easier to have the government just take what you haven't earned from those who did and give it to you.
 
No, what we want is redistribution of wealth to those who work, as opposed to those who own. Different kettle of fish altogether.
That's easy. Prove to your boss you're worth a raise. Negotiate a new salary.

Please observe that "those who work" implies the plural.
What's plurality got to do with anything? People are individuals. Leftists have a hard time understanding that.
And besides, I am my boss.
Oh, so YOU'RE the selfish bastard keeping you down. :lol:
 
No, what we want is redistribution of wealth to those who work, as opposed to those who own. Different kettle of fish altogether.
That's easy. Prove to your boss you're worth a raise. Negotiate a new salary.

Oh, wait, what am I saying? That's toooo haaaaard!! Much easier to have the government just take what you haven't earned from those who did and give it to you.

And being a career military person your knowledge and experience in negotiating a salary is....:confused:
 
No, what we want is redistribution of wealth to those who work, as opposed to those who own. Different kettle of fish altogether.
That's easy. Prove to your boss you're worth a raise. Negotiate a new salary.

Oh, wait, what am I saying? That's toooo haaaaard!! Much easier to have the government just take what you haven't earned from those who did and give it to you.

And being a career military person your knowledge and experience in negotiating a salary is....:confused:
In the military, I competed for promotion against other Airmen in my AFSC (MOS to the ground-pounders).

My negotiation with my leadership was to do my job better than my peers. And I was rewarded for it.

It works in the civilian world, too. Give it a shot! It's fun and profitable!

Oh, wait -- will the union let you do that?
 
Oh? Not like those who say "Ray Gun..."

Ronnie earned it with his "Star War Missile Defense" dream. Doubt you can say the same about Barak

I have never referred to Obama as anything but President Obama, Obama, POTUS, CIC.....

But I recall many on this board...to this day...referring to Bush as "shrub".....along with many other names.....

While I do disagree with you many times, you are amicable, and I appriciate it.
 
What's plurality got to do with anything?

There's a difference between one person not earning as much as he could, and the entire working class across the board being paid less than they should be. The latter is what we have. Regardless of the baseline, it's always possible to do a better job, obtain new skills, and earn relatively more than you have been, but while that may improve your own circumstances, it won't change the overall reality that we as a nation face.

Oh, so YOU'RE the selfish bastard keeping you down. :lol:

That's right. I'm self-employed, so if I'm not making as much as I should be it's no one's fault but my own. I keep saying that this isn't about me. I am not a working-class victim. But that doesn't mean plenty of other people aren't.
 
What's plurality got to do with anything?

There's a difference between one person not earning as much as he could, and the entire working class across the board being paid less than they should be. The latter is what we have. Regardless of the baseline, it's always possible to do a better job, obtain new skills, and earn relatively more than you have been, but while that may improve your own circumstances, it won't change the overall reality that we as a nation face.
When did the left stop seeing people as individuals?
Oh, so YOU'RE the selfish bastard keeping you down. :lol:

That's right. I'm self-employed, so if I'm not making as much as I should be it's no one's fault but my own. I keep saying that this isn't about me. I am not a working-class victim. But that doesn't mean plenty of other people aren't.
And what's stopping them from negotiating their own deals?
 
Then prove the following: Democratic Socialists of America did not create the New Party
Prove to me that Obama was not a member of the New Party

Welcome to the board, stinger....

....they really don't know. It is a hallmark of our Leftist friends that they do not educate themselves.

But, for purposes of education, from Klein, "Red Army," is instructive:

1. While the United States is one of the few democracies without an official socialist party, in reality socialist occupy some of the highest positions in the “Marxist-socialist” bloc in Congress. In fact, the Congressional Progressive Caucus was founded as a sister to the Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA.

a. Before the socialist network infiltrated the Democratic Party, its ideology permeated academic institutions for decades.

b. In the 60’s, radicals attempted to overthrow the US capitalist system by actual revolution: the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) or its spinoff, the Weathermen terrorist group. DSA was established to transform capitalism by democratic means.

2. Based on ideas similar to those of the Fabians, it was decided to drop the word ‘socialism’ and continued as the ‘Congressional Progressive Caucus.’ Stealth was determined to be more effective….boring from within.

a. Bill Ayers, Mike Klonsky, and Bernardine Dohrn attacked capitalism from academia.

b. Wade Rathke founded ACORN.

c. Heather and Paul Booth, and Steve Max, founded the Midwest Academy to attack capitalism using Saul Alinsky-style community organizing.
Anyone else come to mind?

3.Michael Harrington, founder of the DSA, knew that infiltration of the Democratic Party was primary, and it already contained all of the progressive elements.
The Eduard Bernstein Internet Archive Socialism time line.

The DSA remains the principle branch of the Socialist International, whose primary goal is global governance under worldwide socialism.

a. The SI boasts it is successor to the First International of Karl Marx, 1864. “Ever since its inception in 1951, the Socialist International has made cosmetic efforts to distance itself from communist socialists.”
The Grasp of Socialist International

4. Journalist Balint Vazonyi, in the Washington Times: “But the real pay-off will occur on the day when we accept that, as we get nearer to the present time, we have had an increasing number of Americans falling prey to the socialist mind set - even in Congress.

"What?" I hear you say. "Socialists in the Congress of the United States?"

Dozens, dear reader, dozens. And they make no secret of it. Although of late it has been refurbished and the address altered, they have their own web site. They call themselves the "Progressive Caucus," until recently an arm of the Democratic Socialists of America, itself an arm of the Socialist International. The Progressive Caucus may be a separate entity now, but the details of its program, as advertised on the web site (www.dsausa.org/pc/pc.caucus.html), are indistinguishable from that of the Socialist International.
We had better believe it. And we had better remember: the socialist cause trumps everything. Everything.”
The Riddle That Isn't


Progressive, socialist, Marxist, Fabian....
 
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When did the left stop seeing people as individuals?

Never. We just don't see people as wholly-separate, self-contained Heracleitian atoms moving each in his or her own distinct orbit and neither impacted by nor impacting anyone else. Collective reality is also important. We swim in a social sea.

And what's stopping them from negotiating their own deals?

For one thing, lack of talent. I'm just getting started at this point but am confident I'll succeed. But that's because I'm damned good. Not everyone is.
 
When did the left stop seeing people as individuals?

Never. We just don't see people as wholly-separate, self-contained Heracleitian atoms moving each in his or her own distinct orbit and neither impacted by nor impacting anyone else. Collective reality is also important. We swim in a social sea.
The left hasn't seen people as individuals for decades. Everyone is placed neatly into a well-delineated cubbyhole of the left's choosing. And if they dare set one foot out of that cubbyhole, if they dare voice a thought unacceptable to the left, all hell breaks loose.

You don't see individuals. You see blocs.
And what's stopping them from negotiating their own deals?

For one thing, lack of talent. I'm just getting started at this point but am confident I'll succeed. But that's because I'm damned good. Not everyone is.
We are guaranteed equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome.
 
I think it's time to start viewing Obama as a Dictator. Fresh out of the closet. :D
 

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