Obama says paying taxes is patriotic.

AND it's the Christian thing to do. But where are the Christians?
Jesus thought government and taxes were a good thing and a necessary thing or else he would not have suggested it and approved of it. Before govrnment and taxes were in place there are priest, judges, gleaning, tithes. How did we get from Jesus's socialism to capitalism?

Roman 13;107
Romans 13:1-7 NIV - Submission to Governing Authorities - Bible Gateway

Matt 12;13-17
Mark 12:13-17 NIV - Paying the Imperial Tax to Caesar - Bible Gateway
 
It is not really about whether he paid or did not pay taxes, it's about honesty and integrety of paying a fair amount and not using loop holes. if you want to be president. Shit, I never had any loop hole and most middle class amerians don't either. Christian bible and Christian Jesus said pay what is asked of you and looking for loop holes and tax havens are not honest. But ofcourse Romney never claimed to be honest.

ps. 8.2% is a miracle considering if Obama had done nothing it would have been in the double digits. Get your heads out of your booties and take off the blindfolds and see the whole picture. All of the $4 trillion spending by Obama was result of fixing Bush's blunders and had to be done to escape a depression. Any one with half a brain, know Obama's success and know there is much work to be done and he is capable of doing it.
 
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It is not really about whether he paid or did not pay taxes, it's about honesty and integrety of paying a fair amount and not using loop holes. if you want to be president. Shit, I never had any loop hole and most middle class amerians don't either. Christian bible and Christian Jesus said pay what is asked of you and looking for loop holes and tax havens are not honest.
The EITC is one such "loop hole"...Bet you've taken it, too.
 
AND it's the Christian thing to do. But where are the Christians?
Jesus thought government and taxes were a good thing and a necessary thing or else he would not have suggested it and approved of it. Before govrnment and taxes were in place there are priest, judges, gleaning, tithes. How did we get from Jesus's socialism to capitalism?

Roman 13;107
Romans 13:1-7 NIV - Submission to Governing Authorities - Bible Gateway

Matt 12;13-17
Mark 12:13-17 NIV - Paying the Imperial Tax to Caesar - Bible Gateway

Why is it the left uses jesus when it's politically expedient for thier cause?

Did jesus say..."Give your money to government because they're going to take it from you anyway and they can spend it better than you can..."

Jesus said render unto Caesar's that which is Caesar's, Render unto God that which is God's.

Jesus was also talking about morality. how moral is it for Government to steal property of others and give to those that don't work for it, or refuse to? Make it a way of life?

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President Obama suggested it’s “patriotic” for well-off Americans to pay more in taxes, bringing back an argument then-Sen. Joe Biden first made before the 2008 election.


President Obama suggested it’s “patriotic” ...


no, not patriotic -

O had it right the first time - "you did not build that yourself"
 
It is not really about whether he paid or did not pay taxes, it's about honesty and integrety of paying a fair amount and not using loop holes. if you want to be president. Shit, I never had any loop hole and most middle class amerians don't either. Christian bible and Christian Jesus said pay what is asked of you and looking for loop holes and tax havens are not honest. But ofcourse Romney never claimed to be honest.

ps. 8.2% is a miracle considering if Obama had done nothing it would have been in the double digits. Get your heads out of your booties and take off the blindfolds and see the whole picture. All of the $4 trillion spending by Obama was result of fixing Bush's blunders and had to be done to escape a depression. Any one with half a brain, know Obama's success and know there is much work to be done and he is capable of doing it.

PISS OFF.

You use loopholes which more them proves you dont pay your fair share.......
 
sacraficing for your country is patriotic.


Pretending it is not is unpatriotic
 
It is not really about whether he paid or did not pay taxes, it's about honesty and integrety of paying a fair amount and not using loop holes. if you want to be president. Shit, I never had any loop hole and most middle class amerians don't either. Christian bible and Christian Jesus said pay what is asked of you and looking for loop holes and tax havens are not honest. But ofcourse Romney never claimed to be honest.

ps. 8.2% is a miracle considering if Obama had done nothing it would have been in the double digits. Get your heads out of your booties and take off the blindfolds and see the whole picture. All of the $4 trillion spending by Obama was result of fixing Bush's blunders and had to be done to escape a depression. Any one with half a brain, know Obama's success and know there is much work to be done and he is capable of doing it.


It's 8.3%.

Obama spends 3.5 - 3.7 trillion every year, and yet has nothing to show for it. Increased the debt by 6 trillion in 4 years, you call that a success? The recession ended in June of '09, yet we're still barely above the recession level after more than 3 years. Doesn't look to me like he's capable of jackshit.
 
It is not really about whether he paid or did not pay taxes, it's about honesty and integrety of paying a fair amount and not using loop holes. if you want to be president. Shit, I never had any loop hole and most middle class amerians don't either. Christian bible and Christian Jesus said pay what is asked of you and looking for loop holes and tax havens are not honest. But ofcourse Romney never claimed to be honest.

ps. 8.2% is a miracle considering if Obama had done nothing it would have been in the double digits. Get your heads out of your booties and take off the blindfolds and see the whole picture. All of the $4 trillion spending by Obama was result of fixing Bush's blunders and had to be done to escape a depression. Any one with half a brain, know Obama's success and know there is much work to be done and he is capable of doing it.

The problem with your premis is that you get to decide what is fair. Life is not fair ,learn to live with it. You have misquoted Jesus, don't know *&^% about what the real % would be and are probably bored. You are right about one thing, those with half a brain do know that Obama is a success, it is the rest of us with all our brain that know he is a failure,.
 
It is not really about whether he paid or did not pay taxes, it's about honesty and integrety of paying a fair amount and not using loop holes. if you want to be president. Shit, I never had any loop hole and most middle class amerians don't either. Christian bible and Christian Jesus said pay what is asked of you and looking for loop holes and tax havens are not honest.
The EITC is one such "loop hole"...Bet you've taken it, too.

I make too much to qualify for it, though we could certainly use it. That said, I don't begrudge someone else who needs it using it.

Because I'm not a fucking asshole, you see.
 
AND it's the Christian thing to do. But where are the Christians?
Jesus thought government and taxes were a good thing and a necessary thing or else he would not have suggested it and approved of it. Before govrnment and taxes were in place there are priest, judges, gleaning, tithes. How did we get from Jesus's socialism to capitalism?

Roman 13;107
Romans 13:1-7 NIV - Submission to Governing Authorities - Bible Gateway

Matt 12;13-17
Mark 12:13-17 NIV - Paying the Imperial Tax to Caesar - Bible Gateway

Jesus was Not a socialist. He commentes on obeying the law and pay taxes if that is the law, andd hew really saying that, being in heaven was far better than being rich, but he had no problem with buying and selling goods aka capitalism
 
AND it's the Christian thing to do. But where are the Christians?
Jesus thought government and taxes were a good thing and a necessary thing or else he would not have suggested it and approved of it. Before govrnment and taxes were in place there are priest, judges, gleaning, tithes. How did we get from Jesus's socialism to capitalism?

Roman 13;107
Romans 13:1-7 NIV - Submission to Governing Authorities - Bible Gateway

Matt 12;13-17
Mark 12:13-17 NIV - Paying the Imperial Tax to Caesar - Bible Gateway

Jesus was Not a socialist. He commentes on obeying the law and pay taxes if that is the law, andd hew really saying that, being in heaven was far better than being rich, but he had no problem with buying and selling goods aka capitalism

Indeed. God's Law, and Man's law.
 

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