Obama Saves Us $40 Billion

[sealybobo]

Obama orders federal contracting overhaul
President says changes overdue, could save up to $40 billion a year

How can anyone suggest there is no difference between the parties, or that Obama and the Dems aren't 1000 times better than Bush and the GOP.

WASHINGTON - Reversing Bush policy, President Barack Obama ordered an overhaul of the way the government hands out contracts Wednesday, promising to curtail no-bid awards that have led to waste, abuse and corruption investigations.

Obama joined Republican Sen. John McCain, his presidential campaign rival, and other congressional figures to announce an executive memorandum that commits his administration to a new set of marching orders for awarding contracts. Obama said "the days of giving government contractors a blank check are over" and said changes could save up to $40 billion a year.

Obama orders federal contracting overhaul - White House- msnbc.com

PS.

Poll: Obama's rating at all-time high

Poll: Obama's rating at all-time high - White House- msnbc.com

 

[MalibuMan]

I have no problem with this. I think it is a good move. But really? Saving us money. I doubt it. I'm sure there is a pork project this will get spent on. Does it really matter? Now he needs to go through every program and do the same. Doubt it.

 

[del]

in a related development, werewolves COULD seize bucharest.

there's a little au jus on your chin, sealy.

 

[sealybobo]

in a related development, werewolves COULD seize bucharest.

there's a little au jus on your chin, sealy.

I showed people like you for 8 years all these bad things the GOP were doing and you didn't care.

Now I show you Obama is doing the right thing and you don't care.

Have fun voting for Nader or Barr or Mitt in 2012.

 

[del]

in a related development, werewolves COULD seize bucharest.

there's a little au jus on your chin, sealy.

I showed people like you for 8 years all these bad things the GOP were doing and you didn't care.

Now I show you Obama is doing the right thing and you don't care.

Have fun voting for Nader or Barr or Mitt in 2012.

you haven't shown me shit except that you're a barking at the moon lunatic with very limited mental capabilities. my apologies to any dogs i may have offended.

every pol says the same thing and none of them so far in my lifetime has done it. not fucking one, left, right, middle, dem, republican, you name it.

 

[Mad Scientist]

We're supposed to applaud Obama saving "up to" 40 billion when he's spending trillions on porkulus?
Besides, "up to 40 billion " also includes "zero" you know.

 

[Zook]

Saving us money does sound good but I think he will have to save a couple trillion more to make up for all the spending he has just started. Wouldn't You Agree?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Obama spends 4 trillion to save 40 billion.

yeah here's that dimocrat math again.

 

[WillowTree]

That's a "deficit you can believe in"

 

[sealybobo]

in a related development, werewolves COULD seize bucharest.

there's a little au jus on your chin, sealy.

I showed people like you for 8 years all these bad things the GOP were doing and you didn't care.

Now I show you Obama is doing the right thing and you don't care.

Have fun voting for Nader or Barr or Mitt in 2012.

you haven't shown me shit except that you're a barking at the moon lunatic with very limited mental capabilities. my apologies to any dogs i may have offended.

every pol says the same thing and none of them so far in my lifetime has done it. not fucking one, left, right, middle, dem, republican, you name it.

I just showed you Obama is cleaning up Bush's mess. Bush was wasting money. I don't care if it is dems or republicans wasting money, I want whoever is in charge to clean it up.

I don't like it if/when Dems waste money either. But you guys are referring to good social programs. You want all the good government programs ended. You want the government to only defend the nation's borders, AND THATS IT. And that's wrong.

The government should do much more than that. And under the dems, it will.

Republcians will say it is wasteful spending. Well lets get specific.

Obama just got specific and found $40 billion that Bush was wasting.

Your move. Check.

 

[sealybobo]

Obama spends 4 trillion to save 40 billion.

yeah here's that dimocrat math again.

So you want to lose your entire 401k and start over again?

And you want another $30K in value knocked off your home?

That's the GOP solution?

What is that called when they do that in farming? Scortched earth?

 

[sealybobo]

That's a "deficit you can believe in"

As apposed to Bush's deficit?

Remember, Clinton left Bush with a surplus. What did Bush leave Obama with?



And have you shared what your solution would be Willow? This I gotta hear. No help everyone!

 

[sealybobo]

Saving us money does sound good but I think he will have to save a couple trillion more to make up for all the spending he has just started. Wouldn't You Agree?

Don't you agree Bush didn't spend any money on infrastructure the last 8 years and the countries roads/bridges need a face lift?

Obama will balance the budget by 2013.

Bush said he would. How did he do?

Bush got 9-11'ed you say? Well Obama got Bush wacked.

 

[del]

I showed people like you for 8 years all these bad things the GOP were doing and you didn't care.

Now I show you Obama is doing the right thing and you don't care.

Have fun voting for Nader or Barr or Mitt in 2012.

you haven't shown me shit except that you're a barking at the moon lunatic with very limited mental capabilities. my apologies to any dogs i may have offended.

every pol says the same thing and none of them so far in my lifetime has done it. not fucking one, left, right, middle, dem, republican, you name it.

I just showed you Obama is cleaning up Bush's mess. Bush was wasting money. I don't care if it is dems or republicans wasting money, I want whoever is in charge to clean it up.

I don't like it if/when Dems waste money either. But you guys are referring to good social programs. You want all the good government programs ended. You want the government to only defend the nation's borders, AND THATS IT. And that's wrong.

The government should do much more than that. And under the dems, it will.

Republcians will say it is wasteful spending. Well lets get specific.

Obama just got specific and found $40 billion that Bush was wasting.

Your move. Check.

do you understand the meaning of the word "could", cornholio?

he hasn't gotten specific and he hasn't found $40 billion despite your ignorant protestations to the contrary.

which specific programs are being cut and what are the savings that will be realized by each program?

you can't tell me because no one knows.

do you have L and R written on the soles of your shoes?

 

[sealybobo]

you haven't shown me shit except that you're a barking at the moon lunatic with very limited mental capabilities. my apologies to any dogs i may have offended.

every pol says the same thing and none of them so far in my lifetime has done it. not fucking one, left, right, middle, dem, republican, you name it.

I just showed you Obama is cleaning up Bush's mess. Bush was wasting money. I don't care if it is dems or republicans wasting money, I want whoever is in charge to clean it up.

I don't like it if/when Dems waste money either. But you guys are referring to good social programs. You want all the good government programs ended. You want the government to only defend the nation's borders, AND THATS IT. And that's wrong.

The government should do much more than that. And under the dems, it will.

Republcians will say it is wasteful spending. Well lets get specific.

Obama just got specific and found $40 billion that Bush was wasting.

Your move. Check.

do you understand the meaning of the word "could", cornholio?

he hasn't gotten specific and he hasn't found $40 billion despite your ignorant protestations to the contrary.

which specific programs are being cut and what are the savings that will be realized by each program?

you can't tell me because no one knows.

do you have L and R written on the soles of your shoes?

Well I have known for years that the GOP were wasting billions if not trillions in the name of defense. You guys defended all the defense spending, no matter how fraudulent or wasteful, because it was in the name of defense.

And the GOP sent you on a wild goose chase to cry about millions wasted on welfare, and they got you arguing about abortion and gays. Suckers. Meanwhile they emptied the treasury.

Then they told you government was the problem, meanwhile corporate America fucked you.

It's an old magicians secret. Distract them with the left hand while the right hand robs hides the ball, or whatever. You get my point.

So Bush cut a lot of liberal programs and doubled the debt. Is that why you think Obama is going to cut a lot of conservative programs and still double the debt?

Well remember, Clinton handed Bush a surplus and Bush dug Obama a huge hole. Gotta admit it's true. Even if it wasn't a surplus, it was a lot better than what Bush gave Prez O.

 

[KMAN]

I COULD win the lottery!!!!!!

 

[sealybobo]

I COULD win the lottery!!!!!!

What's the over and under? Will Obama spend more or less than Bush?

 

[Skull Pilot]

I showed people like you for 8 years all these bad things the GOP were doing and you didn't care.

Now I show you Obama is doing the right thing and you don't care.

Have fun voting for Nader or Barr or Mitt in 2012.

you haven't shown me shit except that you're a barking at the moon lunatic with very limited mental capabilities. my apologies to any dogs i may have offended.

every pol says the same thing and none of them so far in my lifetime has done it. not fucking one, left, right, middle, dem, republican, you name it.

I just showed you Obama is cleaning up Bush's mess. Bush was wasting money. I don't care if it is dems or republicans wasting money, I want whoever is in charge to clean it up.

I don't like it if/when Dems waste money either. But you guys are referring to good social programs. You want all the good government programs ended. You want the government to only defend the nation's borders, AND THATS IT. And that's wrong.

The government should do much more than that. And under the dems, it will.

Republcians will say it is wasteful spending. Well lets get specific.

Obama just got specific and found $40 billion that Bush was wasting.

Your move. Check.

OK I'm going to post this just to piss you off Sybil. Please if you can go through it point by point and tell me where the author is wrong. it's a lot of words BooBoo but take your time and we won't laugh at you if your lips move when you read. And you can sound out the big words with more than 2 syllables if you have to.

Karl Rove Says President Barack Obama's Policies Break Campaign Promises - WSJ.com

Barack Obama won the presidency in large measure because he presented himself as a demarcation point. The old politics, he said, was based on "spin," misleading arguments, and an absence of candor. He'd "turn the page" on that style of politics.

Last week's presentation of his budget shows that hope was a mirage.

For example, Mr. Obama didn't run promising larger deficits -- but now is offering record-setting ones. He'll add $4.9 trillion before his term ends and $7.4 trillion if given a second, doubling the national debt in five years and tripling it in 10. Mr. Obama's deficits will be much larger than he admits because he relies on rosy economic assumptions and gimmicks that mask spending and debt (like assuming popular new programs he supports won't be renewed).

Where is Rove wrong in this statement?

Here's a hint. He's not.

Nor did Mr. Obama run promising more earmarks. Instead, he said he'd reform the earmark culture and "scour the federal budget, line by line, and make meaningful cuts." Now he wants to wave through a $410 billion omnibus spending bill with about 8,500 earmarks. This is on top of the $787 billion stimulus bill signed into law two weeks ago.His justification comes to us from the White House's budget director, Peter Orszag, who recently called the omnibus spending bill "last year's business." But it will fund the federal government for the next six months. Mr. Obama could veto the legislation or push congressional Democrats to ditch the earmarks. But he has given little indication that he will do either.

Nor is it credible to claim that the spending spree on Mr. Obama's watch is someone else's responsibility, as Mr. Orszag did by saying the president had "inherited" these deficits.

how about this one? Not wrong again.

Mr. Obama ceded authority to congressional appropriators, who wrote the stimulus bill that is history's largest spending increase. Then Mr. Obama got behind the pork-laden omnibus-spending bill. And Mr. Obama has also proposed $4 trillion in outlays this fiscal year and $3.6 trillion next fiscal year.

Mr. Obama cannot dismiss critics by pointing to President George W. Bush's decision to run $2.9 trillion in deficits while fighting two wars and dealing with 9/11 and Katrina. Mr. Obama will surpass Mr. Bush's eight-year total in his first 20 months and 11 days in office, adding $3.2 trillion to the national debt. If America "cannot and will not sustain" deficits like Mr. Bush's, as Mr. Obama said during the campaign, how can Mr. Obama sustain the geometrically larger ones he's flogging?

can you answer that question Sybil?

There is more. Mr. Obama pledged "no tax hikes on any families earning less than a quarter million dollars." What he didn't draw attention to was $600 billion in higher energy taxes he wants to impose through a cap-and-trade system on carbon emissions. These taxes will hit everyone who drives, flips a light switch, or buys anything manufactured, grown or shipped.

But I thought your leader of hope and stimuli was only going to tax those evil rich people. Can you explain why Obama will be taxing everything you do via a cap and trade tax?

Mr. Obama devoted four times as much space in his campaign stump speech to cutting taxes as he did to talking about raising taxes on the wealthy. In the election's most widely watched speech, his Denver Convention address, he didn't even mention raising taxes, instead stressing he'd "cut taxes -- cut taxes -- for 95% of all working families." Yet higher taxes are what every American is going to get.

Do you hear an echo? I could have sworn I said this weeks ago.

Today's White House health-care summit should also remind us of one of Mr. Obama's most popular ads, which declared, "On health care reform -- two extremes. On one end, government-run health care, higher taxes. On the other, insurance companies without rules, denying coverage. Barack Obama says both extremes are wrong."

Mr. Obama's plan will lead us to the extreme of government-run health care. And in an effort to reach that goal, Mr. Obama's budget proposes, as a starting point, a $630 billion fund to expand government-run health care. And that $630 billion comes not from reduced spending, but higher taxes.

And let's not forget to mention that all your "private" and "confidential" medical records will now belong to the government so some fat assed bureaucrat can "guide" your doctor in choosing the "right" medical treatment.

Now you Dimmies got your panties in a twist over wiretapping and such so where's the outrage at this particularly egregious breach of privacy?

Mr. Obama's personal popularity remains higher than support for his proposals. A raft of opinion surveys show Americans take the conservative side on issues ranging from the efficacy of government spending, to nationalization of banks, to bailouts for auto companies, to whether tax cuts or government spending will create more jobs. Packaging Mr. Obama's proposals is easier than rigorously defending them. Team Obama will find this out as the details of their budget and other plans are scrutinized

.

Obama's personality will only carry him so far. wouldn't it be better if his policies were more popular than his personality?

Barack Obama has been president for a little more than five weeks. During his speech to a joint session of Congress last week, he showed what a skilled speaker he is and how persuasive he can be. But words delivered from a teleprompter, while important, have to line up with actions. Promises have to be met. And a president who promised to be one thing cannot be another. At some point, the gap between good feelings and results, between perception and reality, closes.

Eloquent words and "spin" work better in a campaign than they do while governing. And as Mr. Obama is discovering, the laws of economics won't change, even for him.

And when that gap closes, a lot of us will get crushed between the cliffs of Symplegades. (look it up)

I look forward to your answers to my questions and I am sure you will support your assertions as to exactly why Mr. Rove is wrong.

 

[KMAN]

I COULD win the lottery!!!!!!

What's the over and under? Will Obama spend more or less than Bush?

Good question... They both know how to blow a budget... But then again when it's not your money is there really a budget????

 

[sealybobo]

you haven't shown me shit except that you're a barking at the moon lunatic with very limited mental capabilities. my apologies to any dogs i may have offended.

every pol says the same thing and none of them so far in my lifetime has done it. not fucking one, left, right, middle, dem, republican, you name it.

I just showed you Obama is cleaning up Bush's mess. Bush was wasting money. I don't care if it is dems or republicans wasting money, I want whoever is in charge to clean it up.

I don't like it if/when Dems waste money either. But you guys are referring to good social programs. You want all the good government programs ended. You want the government to only defend the nation's borders, AND THATS IT. And that's wrong.

The government should do much more than that. And under the dems, it will.

Republcians will say it is wasteful spending. Well lets get specific.

Obama just got specific and found $40 billion that Bush was wasting.

Your move. Check.

OK I'm going to post this just to piss you off Sybil. Please if you can go through it point by point and tell me where the author is wrong. it's a lot of words BooBoo but take your time and we won't laugh at you if your lips move when you read. And you can sound out the big words with more than 2 syllables if you have to.

Karl Rove Says President Barack Obama's Policies Break Campaign Promises - WSJ.com



Where is Rove wrong in this statement?

Here's a hint. He's not.


how about this one? Not wrong again.



can you answer that question Sybil?



But I thought your leader of hope and stimuli was only going to tax those evil rich people. Can you explain why Obama will be taxing everything you do via a cap and trade tax?


Do you hear an echo? I could have sworn I said this weeks ago.



And let's not forget to mention that all your "private" and "confidential" medical records will now belong to the government so some fat assed bureaucrat can "guide" your doctor in choosing the "right" medical treatment.

Now you Dimmies got your panties in a twist over wiretapping and such so where's the outrage at this particularly egregious breach of privacy?

Mr. Obama's personal popularity remains higher than support for his proposals. A raft of opinion surveys show Americans take the conservative side on issues ranging from the efficacy of government spending, to nationalization of banks, to bailouts for auto companies, to whether tax cuts or government spending will create more jobs. Packaging Mr. Obama's proposals is easier than rigorously defending them. Team Obama will find this out as the details of their budget and other plans are scrutinized

.

Obama's personality will only carry him so far. wouldn't it be better if his policies were more popular than his personality?

Barack Obama has been president for a little more than five weeks. During his speech to a joint session of Congress last week, he showed what a skilled speaker he is and how persuasive he can be. But words delivered from a teleprompter, while important, have to line up with actions. Promises have to be met. And a president who promised to be one thing cannot be another. At some point, the gap between good feelings and results, between perception and reality, closes.

Eloquent words and "spin" work better in a campaign than they do while governing. And as Mr. Obama is discovering, the laws of economics won't change, even for him.

And when that gap closes, a lot of us will get crushed between the cliffs of Symplegades. (look it up)

I look forward to your answers to my questions and I am sure you will support your assertions as to exactly why Mr. Rove is wrong.

Mr. Obama didn't run promising larger deficits -- but now is offering record-setting ones. He'll add $4.9 trillion before his term ends and $7.4 trillion if given a second, doubling the national debt in five years and tripling it in 10. Mr. Obama's deficits will be much larger than he admits because he relies on rosy economic assumptions and gimmicks that mask spending and debt (like assuming popular new programs he supports won't be renewed).
Where is Rove wrong in this statement?

Did Bush run on the promise that in his last week he would hold us up for $750 billion bank bailout?

Obama is dealing with what Bush gave him. According to McCain, the economy was strong until about October. So Obama is sort of rolling with the punches.

Now explain what Bush was thinking when he went socialist?