Obama & Sarkozy cought

Clueless, even now Israel is a tiny sliver of land, not a big chunk.

Israel is about the the size of NJ, while the arab countries are about the size of the US.

Before 1967, Israel was nine miles wide.

Yet, the arabs refuse to recognize Israel's right to exist no matter how small it is.


The probelm clueless is that the palestinians don't recognize an Israeli state.

And again. Why is that our problem?

Let's review, shall we. European Christians kill a bunch of Jews. They also killed a bunch of other people, but the Jews whinged about it the loudest, so everyone felt really bad. So they decided, "Hey, let's give them a big chunk of land to have their own country." Now instead of carving that country out of Germany, which would have been completely fair, they carve that country out of Palestine, which was under British occupation because the British tricked the Arabs into driving out the Turks in the last war.

So a bunch of European Jews move there, and force the Arabs off the land they've resided in for hundreds of years. The Arabs don't like that and fight back, but they lose.

Of course, today's Jews in Europe and America don't really see this as being so cool. The Jews in Israel realize that hey, you know what, rather than fight over a crappy desert, we can move to America or Europe where they've developed nice secular democracies where no one cares what your religion is, and you can practice it as much or as little as you want. So they are moving the hell out while the Arabs are multiplying.

So what do the Zionists do? Irony of ironies, their selling point is, "Hey, American Christian Funditards, we need to have Israel so Jay-a-zus can come back!" Of course, since a bunch of bad shit is going to happen when Jesus comes back, you'd think you'd want to put that off if you actually believed that silly nonsense.

So Israel, which was created because Christians were dicks, is now being supported by... Christians.

Never mind that Jews have lived in Israel pretty much for the last 3000 years. ANd that the British declared under the Balfour Declaration that they were entitled to a state. And that the UN declared a state, a UN that included many 3rd world countries.
If someone wants to argue we should withdraw from the region, that's one argument. If someone wants to argue Israel isn't a vital ally that's another argument.
 
Clueless, even now Israel is a tiny sliver of land, not a big chunk.

Israel is about the the size of NJ, while the arab countries are about the size of the US.

Before 1967, Israel was nine miles wide.

Yet, the arabs refuse to recognize Israel's right to exist no matter how small it is.

Exactly my point.

Let's put it another way. You move into Bob's house, which you thought you acquired legally.

But then you find out all your neighbors are Bob's inbred relatives, and they all want nothing more than to KILL you to get you out of the area. And they are so intent on doing so, they will strap bombs onto their kids to try to get you out.

There's a certain point where you have to say, "Hey, living here just ain't worth the trouble."

And a lot of Jews in Israel are doing exactly that. They're emigrating.

But wait, "God" promised us this land. That's why we are going to stay, and let people blow us up. "God" said so. Except those guys think God wants us to blow you up. I wish "God" would get his story straight.
 
Never mind that Jews have lived in Israel pretty much for the last 3000 years. ANd that the British declared under the Balfour Declaration that they were entitled to a state. And that the UN declared a state, a UN that included many 3rd world countries.
If someone wants to argue we should withdraw from the region, that's one argument. If someone wants to argue Israel isn't a vital ally that's another argument.

Several points.

1) Doesn't matter if Jews "lived" there. Ownership of the land was by the Muslims until the Jews drove them off.

2) It wasn't the UN's land to give away. Or the British empires, for that matter.

3) Israel is actually pretty worthless as an ally. 99% of the problems we have in that region are because we support this vanity state.
 
Never mind that Jews have lived in Israel pretty much for the last 3000 years. ANd that the British declared under the Balfour Declaration that they were entitled to a state. And that the UN declared a state, a UN that included many 3rd world countries.
If someone wants to argue we should withdraw from the region, that's one argument. If someone wants to argue Israel isn't a vital ally that's another argument.

Several points.

1) Doesn't matter if Jews "lived" there. Ownership of the land was by the Muslims until the Jews drove them off.

2) It wasn't the UN's land to give away. Or the British empires, for that matter.

3) Israel is actually pretty worthless as an ally. 99% of the problems we have in that region are because we support this vanity state.

When was it muslim land?

The Jews fought several wars to establish Israel's existence, and they were the ones that drove the british out, when Palestine was a colony.

Israel is our most important alley. Their military is essentially an American base, surrounded by the most undesirable cultures in the world, where unfortunately America has significant interests-oil. Idiots that hate our Jewish brothers/sisters think the world would be much better without Israel. You think muslims would be wonderful people without jews? They won't.
 
When was it muslim land?

The Jews fought several wars to establish Israel's existence, and they were the ones that drove the british out, when Palestine was a colony.

Israel is our most important alley. Their military is essentially an American base, surrounded by the most undesirable cultures in the world, where unfortunately America has significant interests-oil. Idiots that hate our Jewish brothers/sisters think the world would be much better without Israel. You think muslims would be wonderful people without jews? They won't.

Except that Israel's not much of a help. We can't openly operate within its borders. We have no troops stationed there, we can't openly operate with their military.

I don't think they will be "wonderful people". But they will be people who want to sell something we want to buy. Which is the only relationship we should have with them.

I don't hate the Jews, and I don't consider them my "brothers". They are people living somewhere they don't belong for the stupidest reason humanly possible- Religion.
 
Before Israel the area was a british colony. Before that it was part of the Ottoman Empire.

The arabs occupying the west bank are jordanians. They should relocate back to their home country of jordan.

And your third point is the most clueless. All Israel wants to do is survive.


Never mind that Jews have lived in Israel pretty much for the last 3000 years. ANd that the British declared under the Balfour Declaration that they were entitled to a state. And that the UN declared a state, a UN that included many 3rd world countries.
If someone wants to argue we should withdraw from the region, that's one argument. If someone wants to argue Israel isn't a vital ally that's another argument.

Several points.

1) Doesn't matter if Jews "lived" there. Ownership of the land was by the Muslims until the Jews drove them off.

2) It wasn't the UN's land to give away. Or the British empires, for that matter.

3) Israel is actually pretty worthless as an ally. 99% of the problems we have in that region are because we support this vanity state.
 
Before Israel the area was a british colony. Before that it was part of the Ottoman Empire..

Both of which recognized that the Arabs were the valid residents of the land and respected that. They didn't drive them out. The biggest mistake the Arabs made was trusting the British, who lied to them to get them to fight the Turks.

The arabs occupying the west bank are jordanians. They should relocate back to their home country of jordan.

Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Palestine- these are all labels the west puts on things. The fact is that there were Arabs living on that land, they were the majority of residents, until the Zionists drove them off their own land.

And at some point, they will return the favor. The question is, should we get involved when that happens.

I say... no.

And your third point is the most clueless. All Israel wants to do is survive.

They don't want to "survive", they want to be in Charge.

They could survive in America. Easily. They'd be able to practice their religion in peace.

But if they want to die for a religion, then I have no problem letting them do it as an object lesson to everyone else why religion is a stupid idea.
 
Before Israel the area was a british colony. Before that it was part of the Ottoman Empire..

Both of which recognized that the Arabs were the valid residents of the land and respected that. They didn't drive them out. The biggest mistake the Arabs made was trusting the British, who lied to them to get them to fight the Turks.

The arabs occupying the west bank are jordanians. They should relocate back to their home country of jordan.

Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Palestine- these are all labels the west puts on things. The fact is that there were Arabs living on that land, they were the majority of residents, until the Zionists drove them off their own land.

And at some point, they will return the favor. The question is, should we get involved when that happens.

I say... no.

And your third point is the most clueless. All Israel wants to do is survive.

They don't want to "survive", they want to be in Charge.

They could survive in America. Easily. They'd be able to practice their religion in peace.

But if they want to die for a religion, then I have no problem letting them do it as an object lesson to everyone else why religion is a stupid idea.

What the topic of this thread idiot? You can go off on your stupid Jew hating bullshit rants if you want on another thread, you and the rest of your Ron Paul supporting Jew hating buddies. Israel is there and is going to be there whether you like it or not... Get used to it.
 
What the topic of this thread idiot? You can go off on your stupid Jew hating bullshit rants if you want on another thread, you and the rest of your Ron Paul supporting Jew hating buddies. Israel is there and is going to be there whether you like it or not... Get used to it.

Israel will be gone within 50 years.

The topic of this thread is that most western leaders are sick of Israel and it's bullshit. Obama has to play nice because the Zionists and their funditard allies have too much political power.

But we'll never fight another war over there to get rid of who they are scared of. The people won't stand for it.
 
What the topic of this thread idiot? You can go off on your stupid Jew hating bullshit rants if you want on another thread, you and the rest of your Ron Paul supporting Jew hating buddies. Israel is there and is going to be there whether you like it or not... Get used to it.

Israel will be gone within 50 years.

The topic of this thread is that most western leaders are sick of Israel and it's bullshit. Obama has to play nice because the Zionists and their funditard allies have too much political power.

But we'll never fight another war over there to get rid of who they are scared of. The people won't stand for it.

Only in your wets dreams idoit. That's the problem with idiots like you The blame the Jews first crowd.:cuckoo: Israel fights it's own wars your a joke boy
 
What the topic of this thread idiot? You can go off on your stupid Jew hating bullshit rants if you want on another thread, you and the rest of your Ron Paul supporting Jew hating buddies. Israel is there and is going to be there whether you like it or not... Get used to it.

Israel will be gone within 50 years.

The topic of this thread is that most western leaders are sick of Israel and it's bullshit. Obama has to play nice because the Zionists and their funditard allies have too much political power.

But we'll never fight another war over there to get rid of who they are scared of. The people won't stand for it.

Only in your wets dreams idoit. That's the problem with idiots like you The blame the Jews first crowd.:cuckoo: Israel fights it's own wars your a joke boy

Israel hasn't won a war since 1967. They keep whining to us to bail them out.

They'd have been wiped off the map in 1973 if Nixon hadn't intevened.

Reagan had to bail them out of the Lebanon misadventure in the 1980's.

We had to knock down Saddam for them because they couldnt' do it themselves.

Except now America is sick of wars over there.

Israel will either be defeated militarily, or more likely, Arabs will eventually outnumber Jews and they will simply vote the thing out of existence. And good riddance.
 
Israel will be gone within 50 years.

The topic of this thread is that most western leaders are sick of Israel and it's bullshit. Obama has to play nice because the Zionists and their funditard allies have too much political power.

But we'll never fight another war over there to get rid of who they are scared of. The people won't stand for it.

Only in your wets dreams idoit. That's the problem with idiots like you The blame the Jews first crowd.:cuckoo: Israel fights it's own wars your a joke boy

Israel hasn't won a war since 1967. They keep whining to us to bail them out.

They'd have been wiped off the map in 1973 if Nixon hadn't intevened.

Reagan had to bail them out of the Lebanon misadventure in the 1980's.

We had to knock down Saddam for them because they couldnt' do it themselves.

Except now America is sick of wars over there.

Israel will either be defeated militarily, or more likely, Arabs will eventually outnumber Jews and they will simply vote the thing out of existence. And good riddance.

Really? Israel has never lost a war whack job if they had the Jews would be slaughtered. "Nixon Intervened" The Arabs were supported by the Soviets of course Israel was an ally. Like I said only in your wet dreams Jew hater.
 
Really? Israel has never lost a war whack job if they had the Jews would be slaughtered. "Nixon Intervened" The Arabs were supported by the Soviets of course Israel was an ally. Like I said only in your wet dreams Jew hater.

Actually, they got beaten in Lebanon with their tails between their legs. Both times.

And eventually, Israel will be eliminated... no great loss.

Nixon intervened because the Zionists have our politics in a viselock. Except now American Jews just don't care that much anymore. 50% of Jews under 35 said they wouldn't consider the destruction of Israel to be a big deal.

So the Zionists have a new tact. 'Hey, we need Israel so Jay-a-zus can come back!"

Fuckin' irony.
 
Uh, no. Not really, guy.

1983. After the thing bogged down into a stalemate, Israel had to go to the UN to get them to send in troops to stabalize the country for them. Didnt' work, 243 Americans died in Beruit for no good reason.

2005. They invaded to teach Hezbollah a lesson and left Hezbollah in charge of the country. Brilliant!
 

Forum List

Back
Top