Obama Reaches Out To Communist Latin America For Help!

[LordBrownTrout]

Those countries are poor as shit. They can't buy our goods(or shit).

The only thing this fool is gonna do is ship more jobs overseas and stir up trouble in those countries like he does everywhere else he goes.

I wonder if he is working on his Presidentialk library? He certainly gave more speeches in his first year and did more damage to America's image than any other President in history.

Really. More damage than George W. Bush managed on his watch?
In my opinion Mr. Bush took a healthy economy into a great recession; President Obama took a great recession heading into the abyss into recovery in less than two years. Obama's record is not written yet, defending GWB and the GOP which controlled Congress from 1995 until 2007 ignores reality; posting partisan propaganda makes you either an agent provocatuer and a shill or extremely ignorant.

This isn't a recovery. It's stagnation. One can't say recovery, recovery recovery thousands of time and make it so.

 

[bucs90]

But he cannot fucking fool you.
You are controlled by fear mongering.
Communist countries are way ahead of us and we are going to them for help. Is that telling you anything?

They ARE?

How so?

Are they ahead of us militarily? Not even close haha!!

Are they ahead of us economically? HA! We're richer than anyone.

Are they ahead of us socially? Nope. Our people enjoy far more freedom than those in China, Cuba, North Korea, Russia.


So exactly HOW are communist nations ahead of us?

FREEDOM? not for long with the right in charge.
WE ARE BROKE.
Our freedom and fundamentally are slowly being taken away by people like the T-Baggers put in office. People like Gov. Walker of Wis taking away bargaining right of unions to represent workers. What will the Reich take away from us next?

Shut your pie hole and open your computer and do a little research on Brazil. Obama is in Brazil for a good reason. You may not know it, but the does.

Oh, and funny you used "Reich", a Nazi reference.

You do know the Nazis were the.....National SOCIALIST Party of Germany, right?

"SOCIALIST". Left wing.

READ YOUR HISTORY MORON.



Tiger blood. In veins. Winning.

 

[yota5]

Bucs, this is an excellent post. It is interesting to see where Obama's allegiances lie. Here in the USA he counts known terrorists, and communists as his closest, and most trusted allies. His religious leader for 22 years of his life has been a racist, anti-American hate monger. It leads one to question just which side Obama is on doesn't it?

 

[bucs90]

Bucs, this is an excellent post. It is interesting to see where Obama's allegiances lie. Here in the USA he counts known terrorists, and communists as his closest, and most trusted allies. His religious leader for 22 years of his life has been a racist, anti-American hate monger. It leads one to question just which side Obama is on doesn't it?

Thanks.

It is up to all of us to do what the media should have done in 2008 and figure out who this man is.

 

[LostAmerican]

Will President Calderon get pissed at Obama for flying over his wonderful country and not stopping to shine his shoes and bring him bags of US money?​

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[mudwhistle]

ravi's a dickhead... but i don't see the communist connection either.

In all honesty, I must say that I forgot to correct the title. Those aren't true communist countries.

LA, you're one of a half dozen or more new posters who are anti-Obama and loose with the facts. I can't help but wonder if you're part of an organized effort to influence the election of 2012 by spinning facts to discredit those who oppose the GOP. Too many in such a short time, all posting extremely partisan opinions using a hate and fear strategy seems too coincidental.

I think most critics of Obama are pretty grassroots. They're just smart enough to make a valued judgment.

I posted something about this issue.

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Sunstein is currently Obama's Regulatory Czar.

Link

Availability Cascade Theory

An availability cascade is a self-reinforcing cycle that explains the development of certain kinds of collective beliefs. A novel idea or insight, usually one that seems to explain a complex process in a simple or straightforward manner, gains rapid currency in the popular discourse by its very simplicity and by its apparent insightfulness. Its rising popularity triggers a chain reaction within the social network: individuals adopt the new insight because other people within the network have adopted it, and on its face it seems plausible. The reason for this increased use and popularity of the new idea involves both the availability of the previously obscure term or idea, and the need of individuals using the term or idea to appear to be current with the stated beliefs and ideas of others, regardless of whether they in fact fully believe in the idea that they are expressing. Their need for social acceptance, and the apparent sophistication of the new insight, overwhelm their critical thinking.

This is in a nut-shell the entire aim of the Democratic party. Popular opinions and perceptions overrule reality.

Conspiracy Theories" and government infiltration

Sunstein co-authored a 2008 paper with Adrian Vermeule, titled "Conspiracy Theories," dealing with the risks and possible government responses to false conspiracy theories resulting from "cascades" of faulty information within groups that may ultimately lead to violence. In this article they wrote, "The existence of both domestic and foreign conspiracy theories, we suggest, is no trivial matter, posing real risks to the government’s antiterrorism policies, whatever the latter may be." They go on to propose that, "the best response consists in cognitive infiltration of extremist groups",[21] where they suggest, among other tactics, "Government agents (and their allies) might enter chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups and attempt to undermine percolating conspiracy theories by raising doubts about their factual premises, causal logic or implications for political action."[21] They refer, several times, to groups that promote the view that the US Government was responsible or complicit in the September 11 attacks as "extremist groups."

Sunstein and Vermeule also analyze the practice of recruiting "nongovernmental officials"; they suggest that "government can supply these independent experts with information and perhaps prod them into action from behind the scenes," further warning that "too close a connection will be self-defeating if it is exposed."[21] Sunstein and Vermeule argue that the practice of enlisting non-government officials, "might ensure that credible independent experts offer the rebuttal, rather than government officials themselves. There is a tradeoff between credibility and control, however. The price of credibility is that government cannot be seen to control the independent experts." This position has been criticized by some commentators,[22][23] who argue that it would violate prohibitions on government propaganda aimed at domestic citizens. Cass Sunstein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The problem with having someone like Sunstein in any administration is that they can put this into practice and infiltrate messageboards and blog sites acting as non-governmental individuals and attempt to defuse discussion that have merit countering it with falsehoods merely by raising questions. At the same time they can remain detached from the debate thus not held responsible for it's direction or content. We most likely have a few of them here at USMB attempting to change the pattern of the debate to favor Obama even though Obama has been exposed as a liar or negligent in his duties on several occasions. These folks seem to have insiders information that is not readily available to the public. They can even direct you to links proving their point. It all seems straight forward on the surface but not all of the angles and possibilities are taken into account. They are experts, and they sound credible. Most of the time they are also being deceptive.

I know this post is a little long, but bear with me.

The danger is not only does the current administration fear false gossip but they also fear the truth and Sunstein believes that it's the government's job to control the dialog. This is a government intrusion that is unacceptable in a free society.

 

[LilOlLady]

Which president borrowed money from Communist China to finance two wars? To give tax breaks to the Fat Cats? Communist China owns us thanks to Bush. Bush borrowed more money than 42 presidents combined. They interest on the money Bush borrowed is $1.5 trillion. China owned 739 billion in T-bill when Bush left office. Bush borrow $2.5 trillion from China. Do you want to know why?

Obama is trying to fix what Cowboy Bush broke. Brazil is an investment for America. Something that other presidents has passed up unfortunately.

 

[washamericom]

Brazil is way ahead of us and you wonder why Obama is there?????

you know about the favelas, right ?

the obama nightmare ends 1/20/13

 

[Wry Catcher]

who are the other five ?

you've uncovered our master conspiracy to use usmb to sway the election in twelve. now we'll have to think of something.
it's a good thing that no democrat party person lied (fast and loose) to discredit president bush, that would have been so unfair.

No one needed to lie to discredit President Bush, his actions spoke louder than any words.

Yoto5
Whitehall
The Seeker
JRK
and of course,
LostAmerican.

Shall I start a list, naming those who are highly partisan, new to the board, and start numerous new threads all with the same theme?

EVENTUALLY someone will anyway. so it might be interesting, put me down as a "conservative, with liberal qualities". why can't we be highly partisan (debate forum) ?
if they didn't need to lie then why do they (global warming) ?
bush was a great president that did a wonderful job leading his country after direct attack to the homeland. saddam is dead, and the world is a better place.

Dan Rather's Attack on President Bush's Military Service Rested on Left-Wing Media's Contrived Myths
and i suppose it's not a lie if you really believe it but.... truthers, and michael moore.
michael moore lies about bush - Google Search

Of course being partisan is the nature of this and other politcal forums. Everyone has the absolute right to their own opinion(s) not there own facts. Pointing out ignorance and stupidity is part of the process and one has a duty to call out agent provocateurs who engage in defamation of others when their opinion has little or no basis in reality.

I assume Bucs90 is a racist, hates the President because of his ancestry and uses this forum as a (cowardly) way to attack President Obama everyday. His actions are those which defy the Christianity he pretends to embrace by making bearing false witness (posting negative spins on anything said or done by the president). As an agnostic I hold no certainty on the existence of a heaven or a hell. Given Bucs90's posts I suspect if they do exist he has punched his ticket on the downstaircase.

This is an observation formed by Bucs90's many posts, it is based on that reality and is opinion based on such.

 

[LostAmerican]

Which president borrowed money from Communist China to finance two wars? To give tax breaks to the Fat Cats? Communist China owns us thanks to Bush. Bush borrowed more money than 42 presidents combined. They interest on the money Bush borrowed is $1.5 trillion. China owned 739 billion in T-bill when Bush left office. Bush borrow $2.5 trillion from China. Do you want to know why?

Obama is trying to fix what Cowboy Bush broke. Brazil is an investment for America. Something that other presidents has passed up unfortunately.

Better learn how to pull a rickshaw to help pay off the debt!



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[LostAmerican]

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[washamericom]

An availability cascade is a self-reinforcing cycle that explains the development of certain kinds of collective beliefs. A novel idea or insight, usually one that seems to explain a complex process in a simple or straightforward manner, gains rapid currency in the popular discourse by its very simplicity and by its apparent insightfulness. Its rising popularity triggers a chain reaction within the social network: individuals adopt the new insight because other people within the network have adopted it, and on its face it seems plausible. The reason for this increased use and popularity of the new idea involves both the availability of the previously obscure term or idea, and the need of individuals using the term or idea to appear to be current with the stated beliefs and ideas of others, regardless of whether they in fact fully believe in the idea that they are expressing. Their need for social acceptance, and the apparent sophistication of the new insight, overwhelm their critical thinking.

this exactly describe the "fake it till you make it" principle in the music business.

 

[LilOlLady]

Bush reached out to Communist China for so many time for so many difference reason that they are too numerous to mention. Do a little reseach.

 

[LostAmerican]

Short and black and nappy and stupid
the prez from USA goes begging
and when he passes, the latinos he passes go
Gimme some money, Uncle Ben!​

 

[kiwiman127]

Wow, the right wing fanatic wackos are in full form in this thread! Talk about nut jobs?

Secondly, I believe the below linked article actually does something the right wing sheeple's posts don't do,,,,relate to this thread's theme.

GOP to block Commerce nominees until free trade agreements done

Republican senators have just announced that they will block the confirmation of a new Commerce Secretary - or any commerce related positions - until Democrats move on free trade agreements for Columbia and Panama.

Forty-four GOP senators signed on to a letter to Majority Leader Harry Reid Monday, vowing to hold up the nominations until "the President submits both agreements to Congress for approval and commits to signing implementing legislation into law."

First Read - GOP to block Commerce nominees until free trade agreements donecommerce-nominees-until-free-trade-agreements-done

I guess these folks have chosen to forget about the adverse effects of NAFTA & CAFTA had on American jobs. So if this goes though, we can soon expect to be buying products that used to be made in the US being shipped from Columbia and Panama!

 

[LilOlLady]

Trying to rally the international community against Myanmar's generals, Bush met Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi and asked Beijing "to help bring a peaceful transition to democracy in Burma," the White House said.

Bush appeals to China to pressure Myanmar | Reuters


Aid to Muslims: He called for a worldwide effort to reach out to the Islamic world, with education and aid packages as well as the offer of help from individual Americans.

Bush Warns Iraq, Iran, North Korea

If Obama reached out like Bush did, he would be impeached.
Before you people continue your attacks on Obama in anyway, look at presidents you put into office.

 

[LilOlLady]

Remember Bush left this mess for Obama to clean up and he took the jobs and doing everything in his power to clean it up. But Obama only has as much power has Congress gives him.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Obama: Latin American trip focus is jobs

WASHINGTON, March 18 (UPI) -- Latin America has 600 million people, is growing and needs "goods and services that, as president, I want to see made in the United States," Barack Obama says.

Obama flies to Brazil Friday night for a five-day state visit that will also take him to Chile and El Salvador.

He is expected to talk about hemispheric challenges such as poverty and drug violence.

"But in this increasingly interconnected and fiercely competitive world," he will focus on "creating and sustaining" new U.S. jobs and opportunities, Obama said in a USA Today op-ed article published Friday.

Read more at link:

Obama: Latin American trip focus is jobs - UPI.com


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Since our wonderful president is bound and detemined to drag the United States of America down into the Third World I ask:

What ever happened to:​

YANKEE GO HOME​

It's not surprising that you White Wingers miss the good ol' days o' collaborating with Right Wing Dictators....

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"Brazil is the most influential country in this region, and U.S. officials, while playing down any tensions with Lula, have expressed optimism about establishing close ties with Rousseff. The 63-year-old economist, who had once been in a guerrilla group, was brutally tortured by Brazil’s dictatorship in 1970 and later became Lula’s protege, serving as energy minister and then chief of staff."

Obama To Focus On Economic Issues

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"Obama is scheduled to spend Saturday trying to strengthen relations between the United States and Brazil, the most influential country in South America and its largest economy.

Obama’s events Saturday include appearing at a meeting of chief executives of American and Brazilian companies and a speech on economic ties between the United States and South America that is likely to highlight Brazil as a market for U.S.-made goods.

“Growth in the Latin American market stands to benefit American workers and companies more than growth anywhere else in the world,” Clinton said.

In his weekly radio address, which was taped before he departed, Obama said, “One of the main reasons for my trip is to strengthen economic partnerships abroad so that we can create good jobs at home.”

Obama Heads To Brazil​

Let's face Facts.

It's time to mop-up the remnants of ReRon Reagan's paranoia/xenophobia....​

Reagan's Bloody Legacy​

 

[LostAmerican]

Chillen...Obama Man gonna ficks everythang!​

 

[mudwhistle]

Which president borrowed money from Communist China to finance two wars? To give tax breaks to the Fat Cats? Communist China owns us thanks to Bush. Bush borrowed more money than 42 presidents combined. They interest on the money Bush borrowed is $1.5 trillion. China owned 739 billion in T-bill when Bush left office. Bush borrow $2.5 trillion from China. Do you want to know why?

Obama is trying to fix what Cowboy Bush broke. Brazil is an investment for America. Something that other presidents has passed up unfortunately.

I'm sure.

Provide links when you make stupid allegations like this. FYI, Obama increased the debt from $9 trillion to over $14 trillion in less then 2 years. It took Bush 8 years to increase the debt but it seems he had help from the Democrat controlled Congress. Oh, and the deficit was down to $160 billion in 2006 before the Dems took over. When Bush left office it was over $500 billion. And anyone who knows the Constitution knows who holds the purse-strings.

Btw, investment means more spending now.