Obama Put The Election In Perspective

Flanders

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Media is touting the lying sack of shit as the best speech writer since Abe Lincoln. Aside from Lincoln’s well-known witticism’s can anybody tell me anything Lincoln ever said in a speech other than the Gettysburg Address.

EXCERPT FROM THE G.A.
It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us. . .that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion. . . that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain. . . that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom. . . and that government of the people. . .by the people. . .for the people. . . shall not perish from the earth.​

Even there, Lincoln did not praise democracy. He praised the form of government America’s Founders created even though he denied the South its Right to secede:

Americans celebrate Abraham Lincoln's Gettysburg Address, but H.L. Mencken correctly evaluated the speech, "It is poetry not logic; beauty, not sense." Lincoln said that the soldiers sacrificed their lives "to the cause of self-determination -- government of the people, by the people, for the people should not perish from the earth."

Mencken says: "It is difficult to imagine anything more untrue. The Union soldiers in the battle actually fought against self-determination; it was the Confederates who fought for the right of people to govern themselves."​

The Real Lincoln
Walter E. Williams | Mar 27, 2002

Walter E. Williams - The Real Lincoln

NOTE: The democracy crowd continues to fight against self-determination.

America’s continuing slide into collectivism can be traced directly to the success democracy’s advocates got away with when they transformed “. . . government of the people. . .by the people. . .for the people . . .” into an endorsement for democracy —— the antithesis of freedom. That said, I am grateful to the sewer rat for one thing. His bullcrap about democracy put the 2016 election into perspective:


In fact, it doesn't depend on any one person. And that, in the end, may be the biggest difference in this election – the meaning of our democracy.

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And that's what Hillary Clinton understands. She knows that this is a big, diverse country. She has seen it. She's traveled. She's talked to folks. And she understands that most issues are rarely black and white. She understands that even when you're a hundred percent right, getting things done requires compromise. That democracy doesn't work if we constantly demonize each other. She knows that for progress to happen, we have to listen to each other, and see ourselves in each other, and fight for our principles but also fight to find common ground, no matter how elusive that may sometimes seem.

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These are the things that Hillary knows. It can be frustrating, this business of democracy. Trust me, I know. Hillary knows, too. When the other side refuses to compromise, progress can stall. People are hurt by the inaction. Supporters can grow impatient, and worry that you're not trying hard enough; that you've maybe sold out.

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Democracy works, America, but we gotta want it – not just during an election year, but all the days in between.

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If you want more justice in the justice system, then we've all got to vote – not just for a president, but for mayors, and sheriffs, and state's attorneys, and state legislatures. That's where the criminal law is made. And we've got to work with police and protesters until laws and practices are changed. That's how democracy works.

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Hillary Clinton is that woman in the arena. She's been there for us – even if we haven't always noticed. And if you're serious about our democracy, you can't afford to stay home just because she might not align with you on every issue. You've got to get in the arena with her, because democracy isn't a spectator sport. America isn't about "yes he will." It's about "yes we can." And we're going to carry Hillary to victory this fall, because that's what the moment demands. Yes we can. Not yes she can, not yes I can, yes we can.

READ: President Obama's Speech At The Democratic Convention

The undeniable truth about democracy is that it always ends in totalitarian government; so it is fair to say that this election gives voters the clearest choice since Woodrow Wilson made the world safe for democracy. The choice is simple: Vote for individual freedoms, or vote for collectivist government administered by the same people who abolish freedom.

See this thread for more about democracy:


Another Soldier For democracy Chimes In
 
Hillary Clinton mentioned democracy once by tying it to the Constitution. “Our democracy . . .” means her democracy is not working the way she wants it to work:

Our democracy isn’t working the way it should,” she said. We need to get money out of politics, she said, and if necessary put forward a constitutional amendment to overturn the Citizens United decision.​

Hillary’s Hate
By Matthew Vadum
July 29, 2016

Hillary’s Hate

The last thing Hillary wants is to take money out of politics. She could not get elected dog catcher without the money she gets from foreign governments and tax dollar billionaires.

And she is lying through her teeth about a constitutional amendment. She knows there is not a chance such an amendment will get off the ground let alone ratified. If she fails to put more liberals on the High Court, she will satisfy herself by repealing the Citizens United decision with an EO. The SCOTUS and EOs is her definition of constitutional amendments.
 
Hillary Clinton mentioned democracy once by tying it to the Constitution. “Our democracy . . .” means her democracy is not working the way she wants it to work:
Earick Ward reminds of the horrors of democracy:

One of my favorite quotes, which I believe accurately describes our current circumstances, is attributed to Scottish philosopher Alexander Tytler.​

Cycle of Democracy

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury.

From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising them the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.

The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence:

From bondage to spiritual faith;
from spiritual faith to great courage;
from courage to liberty;
from liberty to abundance;
from abundance to selfishness;
from selfishness to apathy;
from apathy to dependence;
from dependency back again into bondage.​

Mr. Ward closed with this:

We as a nation have a decision, and a pressing one: will we continue our drug-addled binge, or will we pull back the reins before it's too late?

Our answer relies on the aforementioned voters. I don't hold out much hope in our ability to break free from our own vicious cycle.​

August 23, 2016
Approaching the end point of the cycle of democracy
By Earick Ward

Blog: Approaching the end point of the cycle of democracy

Nor do I hold much hope in light of Hillary Clinton’s ravenous constituencies regardless of the outcome in November’s election.
 
ADDENDUM
The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.
I do not know how many civilizations were democracies when they collapsed politically or defeated militarily. I do know that parasites feasting at the public larder had more to do with bringing down every civilization, every empire, every country, every culture, than did any other factor. America will be no different.
 
This is a great article about Socialism with one major omission:

September 13, 2016
Why Socialism Will Always Be with Us
By David Solway

Articles: Why Socialism Will Always Be with Us

Socialism is civilization’s curse regardless of the name it goes by. Socialism was always with us. Socialism will always be with us because parasites will always be with us:
parasites feasting at the public larder had more to do with bringing down every civilization, every empire, every country, every culture, than did any other factor. America will be no different.
 
What will be the first thing you do when Lester Holt announces Hillary as winning the election?
To candycorn: That is easy:

Even if Hillary Clinton stays out of jail and somehow wins the general election, Tea Party conservatives can always fallback on increasing the hatred for a Democrat. Going in that direction is better than it is to blame themselves for being dumb enough to vote for a big government Republican. Rest assured, Hillary is disliked and distrusted now. That scorn will quickly become a bone-deep hatred for her and everything she stands for.​

Hillary’s Inheritance
 
What will be the first thing you do when Lester Holt announces Hillary as winning the election?
To candycorn: That is easy:

Even if Hillary Clinton stays out of jail and somehow wins the general election, Tea Party conservatives can always fallback on increasing the hatred for a Democrat. Going in that direction is better than it is to blame themselves for being dumb enough to vote for a big government Republican. Rest assured, Hillary is disliked and distrusted now. That scorn will quickly become a bone-deep hatred for her and everything she stands for.​

Hillary’s Inheritance

So the plan is just more of the same. Hatred today, hatred tomorrow, and hatred forever!!!!
 
So the plan is just more of the same. Hatred today, hatred tomorrow, and hatred forever!!!!
To candycorn: You finally got something right. Eternal hatred for everything she is and everything she represents:

 
You’ve only lost 5 of the last 6 popular votes, (soon to be 6 of the last 7).
To candycorn: Where in hell did you get those numbers? Beginning after the end of WWII Republicans won 9 elections —— Democrats won 8.

Incidentally, I am not a Republican; so I did not lose any.
 
Hillary Clinton mentioned democracy once by tying it to the Constitution. “Our democracy . . .” means her democracy is not working the way she wants it to work:

Our democracy isn’t working the way it should,” she said. We need to get money out of politics, she said, and if necessary put forward a constitutional amendment to overturn the Citizens United decision.​

Hillary’s Hate
By Matthew Vadum
July 29, 2016

Hillary’s Hate

The last thing Hillary wants is to take money out of politics. She could not get elected dog catcher without the money she gets from foreign governments and tax dollar billionaires.

And she is lying through her teeth about a constitutional amendment. She knows there is not a chance such an amendment will get off the ground let alone ratified. If she fails to put more liberals on the High Court, she will satisfy herself by repealing the Citizens United decision with an EO. The SCOTUS and EOs is her definition of constitutional amendments.

Our "Constitutional Lawyer" (who never heard of Judicial Review) apparently doesn't know that we're a Republic, not a Democracy
 
Hillary Clinton mentioned democracy once by tying it to the Constitution. “Our democracy . . .” means her democracy is not working the way she wants it to work:

Our democracy isn’t working the way it should,” she said. We need to get money out of politics, she said, and if necessary put forward a constitutional amendment to overturn the Citizens United decision.​

Hillary’s Hate
By Matthew Vadum
July 29, 2016

Hillary’s Hate

The last thing Hillary wants is to take money out of politics. She could not get elected dog catcher without the money she gets from foreign governments and tax dollar billionaires.

And she is lying through her teeth about a constitutional amendment. She knows there is not a chance such an amendment will get off the ground let alone ratified. If she fails to put more liberals on the High Court, she will satisfy herself by repealing the Citizens United decision with an EO. The SCOTUS and EOs is her definition of constitutional amendments.

She turned her SecState position into a way to get onto Forbes 400.
 

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