Obama Publicly Bashes Our Nations Founders On 4Th Of July.

It's upsetting that she's successful, isn't it? Doesn't quite jive with your bigoted view of women, does it? We all know that the only enlightened women have 3.5 abortions, teach at Berkely and drink green tea....
 
It's upsetting that she's successful, isn't it? Doesn't quite jive with your bigoted view of women, does it? We all know that the only enlightened women have 3.5 abortions, teach at Berkely and drink green tea....

What "bigoted view of women" is being demonstrated?
 
This is just downright awful of this man which I believe is Usurping the Office of the Presidency. To bash our founders on Independence Day is completely un American. Sarah Palin who is a American Patriot would never do this. She believes in the founders principles in framing the constitution to create our govenment. Only Obama who is not patriotic or compassionate towards his country would do this. Our founders wanted the best for a more perfect union for everyone who was and is a American to this day.




Listen to what he says real good:

YouTube - Obama bashes Founders on the 4th
I have no idea what the speech was about since this is a sound byte probably taken out of context. But from what was said I don't see that he is bashing anybody.
 
Civll Rights,Voting Rights, Womens rights.....

None were provided by the founding fathers

And those rights not enumerated are left to the States or the people...

You aren't really very good at this are you?

So in your personal Constitutional utopia it would have been left up to the states to decide whether or not women should vote?

lol
 
This is just downright awful of this man which I believe is Usurping the Office of the Presidency. To bash our founders on Independence Day is completely un American. Sarah Palin who is a American Patriot would never do this. She believes in the founders principles in framing the constitution to create our govenment. Only Obama who is not patriotic or compassionate towards his country would do this. Our founders wanted the best for a more perfect union for everyone who was and is a American to this day.




Listen to what he says real good:

YouTube - Obama bashes Founders on the 4th


God, are you pathetic!

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
It's upsetting that she's successful, isn't it? Doesn't quite jive with your bigoted view of women, does it? We all know that the only enlightened women have 3.5 abortions, teach at Berkely and drink green tea....

What "bigoted view of women" is being demonstrated?

Junky's, obviously. He must be a fucking chauvinist if he disagrees with AllieBaba's position on Sarah Palin. In fact, it's just blatantly obvious that every "liberal" is a sexist pig, because they think Sarah Palin is a dunce.


Just like every "conservative" is a total racist for thinking Barak Obama is a dunce. Right?


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"men of property and wealth"

Wealth of Founding Fathers in 2010 dollars

George Washington: $525 million

John Adams: $19 million

Thomas Jefferson: $212 million

James Madison: $101 million

James Monroe: $27 million

The Net Worth of the U.S. Presidents: Washington to Obama - Business - The Atlantic

How dare Obama bash them by calling them wealthy?

That would lead me to respect them even more(if that's even possible) because they risked all of their wealth for something they believed in.
How far would the revolution have gotten if those fellas were broke? How much of their personal wealth did they spend during the war?
 
Civll Rights,Voting Rights, Womens rights.....

None were provided by the founding fathers

Bullshit..... women had the right to vote back in the day.

They just had to own property.

Go back to history class



'Glenn Beck': Founders' Friday: Women of the American Revolution - Glenn Beck - FOXNews.com

"BARTON: The revolution changed a lot of things. It changed the relationship we had politically, but it also changed a lot of cultural things as we have seen on other "Founders' Fridays." Black founding fathers at that point in time. Suddenly a lot of the founding fathers were able to express themselves as abolitionists and they couldn't do under British law, same with women.

1776, we wipe out 13 British governments and we have to create new governments so the founding fathers from New Jersey who signed the declaration, they went back, started writing their own state constitution as they did in other states.

New Jersey, they wrote in the constitution the right for women to vote. So women started to vote in New Jersey in 1776. That was a right that the founding fathers put into the documents. Women had voted in colonial America before that as well. In Pennsylvania, back in the French- Indian war, et cetera, but they put in the constitution.

BECK: All right, but it was in Pennsylvania, was it a constant?

BARTON: It was not constant. Interestingly enough, the voting rights were tied a lot of times to ownership of property. If you owned property, you could vote. Being from Texas, our schools are funded by the property taxes. The deal is if you own property, pay the taxes for everybody who goes to school, but the problem in Texas is 47 percent of people own property, the other 53 don't.

So you can get majority of people telling the property owner what we're going to pay for taxes. The founding fathers said wait a minute, you shouldn't be able to tell people what to do with their own property if you don't have vested interest to losing your own property. So you had to be a property owner to vote.

Now, they made easy. In Pennsylvania, you could buy land for one penny an acre. They wanted you to be a property owner, but once you had it that affected the way you thought about telling people what to do with their property.

So the property rights concept was started. So women could vote if they owned property, but a lot of times being married the property is in this husband's name. If the husband died and woman inherited property, she could vote.

BECK: This is a problem really with like rental cars. I just want Hertz to know, me, I rent a car and I watch it like it's my own. But others who will remain nameless not — you know, you have our own car and you kind of drive it.

BARTON: That's right.

BECK: You park it in the back of the parking lot. You know, you park up next and any jalopy if it's not your car.

BARTON: That way in New Jersey. The constitutional provision is anyone who is worth 50 pounds, money, could vote. It wasn't straight out every man could vote in 1776.

BECK: When did it go away?

BARTON: It went away in 1809."



I know, I know.... "but its Beck and he's an idiot" right...?
No, he happens to be right most of the time, and he is definately right on this point, so STFU
 
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He "bashes" them by calling them men of property and wealth?

But... Tea Party Ted... They were men of property and wealth.

I have to agree though. Observing basic facts of history is totally un-American.

yeah, sarah would never do that.

she has no time for that, she has to read all magazines and newspapers.
 
Jesus Christ, honesty must actually hurt. Don't make me pull the quotes from the (entire) speech where he basically kisses the founders' asses on his hands and knees, sucks them off for their accomplishments, and even gives them a reach-around. No, let's just play this sound bite and all pretend that he's bashing them. Reality doesn't really matter. Fuck it!

Grimy bastards.
 
I couldn't pay attention to what he was saying because I was obsessing over what he and his erstwhile wifey were wearing...

What is with these people? Did past presidents dress down all the time and I just missed it?

I would think Independence Day would be THE most important holiday to a president, and the most venerable. If you're the president of the UNITED STATES and you're speaking on July 4, please wear a fucking coat and tie. At least a tie. At least a BUTTON DOWN SHIRT. And if you are the wife of our president, you can wear almost any summer clothing you want and look fine....except HALTER TOP. The only thing that could conceivably be worse would be a tube top or a Led Zeppelin t-shirt.

I bet they fart sometimes, too.
 
Though, even now all these years later we still look in awe of the small band of patriots who stood up and risked everything and defied an empire to declare that these united colonies are and of right ought to be free and independent states.

We're amazed at the debt to a founding generation that gave their blood, to give meaning to those words, pledging to each other their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor.
- same speech.
 
Though, even now all these years later we still look in awe of the small band of patriots who stood up and risked everything and defied an empire to declare that these united colonies are and of right ought to be free and independent states.

We're amazed at the debt to a founding generation that gave their blood, to give meaning to those words, pledging to each other their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor.
- same speech.

Scandalous!
 
He "bashes" them by calling them men of property and wealth?

But... Tea Party Ted... They were men of property and wealth.

I have to agree though. Observing basic facts of history is totally un-American.

Good logic there. So since obie wan is a man of property and wealth you will cease and desist whining about us bashing hymn then. Thank You in Advance.

Yeah, I don't mind if you bash him. And he IS a man of property and wealth. And I don't even see how that's a "bash."

AND I'm not 'whining' about anything, or I wasn't until right about... now:

I just wish you people bashed him for things that aren't as totally lame as this. He's not even "bashing" anyone there. I mean, it's as though you guys don't even read the first post, and just the title and if its something bad about Obama the silly conservatives just go "YEAH, NAZI SOCIALIST" on automatic with no thought process involved, regardless of how totally lame it is. Not like the silly "liberals" don't do the exact same thing when a "conservative" is involved. I just wish the silly people from both sides would stop being so lame.

You mean kinda like you and your douchebag leftist professors did with Bush for 8 years?
 
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Civll Rights,Voting Rights, Womens rights.....

None were provided by the founding fathers

And those rights not enumerated are left to the States or the people...

You aren't really very good at this are you?

So in your personal Constitutional utopia it would have been left up to the states to decide whether or not women should vote?

lol

Laugh it up fuzzball. What part of the Tenth do you not understand? And show me in the Constitution where it gives you the right to vote?
 
Those of you who worship the founding fathers as though they shit marble must not really know much about them.

They did a good job given what they were starting out with, but they were plenty human and much of what they did we've had to undo.

Like for example...slavery?

Like for example, having to write a constitution that actually almost works?

Like for example the Bill of rights that they neglected to write?

They were men dealing with real problems and they did a good job, but they were NOT handing down the ten commandments, folks.
 

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